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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1041 » by JonFromVA » Thu Feb 2, 2023 3:28 am

TheLand13 wrote:I think tomorrows game against Memphis is a must win. We’re at home, and Memphis is coming off a back to back. We HAVE to win this game. I don’t care if there’s still more. We need this confidence booster.


Would be a sweet win, but the team has been pretty inconsistent. I expect/hope the guys get their act together and go on a run, but who knows when.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1042 » by ijspeelman » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:23 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:I think tomorrows game against Memphis is a must win. We’re at home, and Memphis is coming off a back to back. We HAVE to win this game. I don’t care if there’s still more. We need this confidence booster.


Would be a sweet win, but the team has been pretty inconsistent. I expect/hope the guys get their act together and go on a run, but who knows when.


Well they've been winning one and then losing one over and over for a few weeks now so its in the cards that this game will be a win and the next will be a loss.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1043 » by JonFromVA » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:54 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:I think tomorrows game against Memphis is a must win. We’re at home, and Memphis is coming off a back to back. We HAVE to win this game. I don’t care if there’s still more. We need this confidence booster.


Would be a sweet win, but the team has been pretty inconsistent. I expect/hope the guys get their act together and go on a run, but who knows when.


Well they've been winning one and then losing one over and over for a few weeks now so its in the cards that this game will be a win and the next will be a loss.


Until they break free of whatever it is that's contributing to that pattern ... *or* ... you know, stop relying on playing harder than their opponents and win with talent (hamstrings, injured fingers, and sore backs be willing).
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1044 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:35 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:I think tomorrows game against Memphis is a must win. We’re at home, and Memphis is coming off a back to back. We HAVE to win this game. I don’t care if there’s still more. We need this confidence booster.


Would be a sweet win, but the team has been pretty inconsistent. I expect/hope the guys get their act together and go on a run, but who knows when.


Well they've been winning one and then losing one over and over for a few weeks now so its in the cards that this game will be a win and the next will be a loss.
Cavs did just lose back to back games a couple weeks ago to the Warriors and... you guessed it, the Grizzles.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1045 » by JonFromVA » Fri Feb 3, 2023 4:59 pm

Cavs are #1 in defensive rating and #2 in net rating after beating Memphis.

The weird thing is that while our net rating of +4.8 is quite good, it would have only been 6th in the NBA last season, and 7th the year before. Should put us in the 48 to 53 win range, but we've under-performed. Our expected W-L is 35-19 while our actual is 32-22.

Right now, Charlotte, San Antonio, Detroit, and Houston have a "nice lead" (about 4 games) on the other "contenders" for the best odds in the lottery. It'll be interesting to see if one of the teams just behind them will try to tank their way in to the that "top-4", but it won't be easy. 24-wins was the cut off for the "top-4" last year and Orlando is perhaps the only team not currently in the "top-4" with a chance to not win more than 24 if they play their cards right.

Looks like their best shot by +/- numbers is to trade Bamba who unsurprisingly rumors say they've made available, but we can probably expect their asking price to come down as we near the deadline.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1046 » by toooskies » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:24 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Cavs are #1 in defensive rating and #2 in net rating after beating Memphis.

The weird thing is that while our net rating of +4.8 is quite good, it would have only been 6th in the NBA last season, and 7th the year before. Should put us in the 48 to 53 win range, but we've under-performed. Our expected W-L is 35-19 while our actual is 32-22.

Right now, Charlotte, San Antonio, Detroit, and Houston have a "nice lead" (about 4 games) on the other "contenders" for the best odds in the lottery. It'll be interesting to see if one of the teams just behind them will try to tank their way in to the that "top-4", but it won't be easy. 24-wins was the cut off for the "top-4" last year and Orlando is perhaps the only team not currently in the "top-4" with a chance to not win more than 24 if they play their cards right.

Looks like their best shot by +/- numbers is to trade Bamba who unsurprisingly rumors say they've made available, but we can probably expect their asking price to come down as we near the deadline.

Bamba + Harris for LeVert + Windler?
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1047 » by JonFromVA » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:41 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:Cavs are #1 in defensive rating and #2 in net rating after beating Memphis.

The weird thing is that while our net rating of +4.8 is quite good, it would have only been 6th in the NBA last season, and 7th the year before. Should put us in the 48 to 53 win range, but we've under-performed. Our expected W-L is 35-19 while our actual is 32-22.

Right now, Charlotte, San Antonio, Detroit, and Houston have a "nice lead" (about 4 games) on the other "contenders" for the best odds in the lottery. It'll be interesting to see if one of the teams just behind them will try to tank their way in to the that "top-4", but it won't be easy. 24-wins was the cut off for the "top-4" last year and Orlando is perhaps the only team not currently in the "top-4" with a chance to not win more than 24 if they play their cards right.

Looks like their best shot by +/- numbers is to trade Bamba who unsurprisingly rumors say they've made available, but we can probably expect their asking price to come down as we near the deadline.


Bamba + Harris for LeVert + Windler?


Well, maybe if they felt Caris could be their tank commander or had some need to cut salary next year, otherwise I imagine they could get more value from someone else. Would you throw in every 2nd round pick we've got left to trade? :lol:
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1048 » by toooskies » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:14 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
toooskies wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:Cavs are #1 in defensive rating and #2 in net rating after beating Memphis.

The weird thing is that while our net rating of +4.8 is quite good, it would have only been 6th in the NBA last season, and 7th the year before. Should put us in the 48 to 53 win range, but we've under-performed. Our expected W-L is 35-19 while our actual is 32-22.

Right now, Charlotte, San Antonio, Detroit, and Houston have a "nice lead" (about 4 games) on the other "contenders" for the best odds in the lottery. It'll be interesting to see if one of the teams just behind them will try to tank their way in to the that "top-4", but it won't be easy. 24-wins was the cut off for the "top-4" last year and Orlando is perhaps the only team not currently in the "top-4" with a chance to not win more than 24 if they play their cards right.

Looks like their best shot by +/- numbers is to trade Bamba who unsurprisingly rumors say they've made available, but we can probably expect their asking price to come down as we near the deadline.


Bamba + Harris for LeVert + Windler?


Well, maybe if they felt Caris could be their tank commander or had some need to cut salary next year, otherwise I imagine they could get more value from someone else. Would you throw in every 2nd round pick we've got left to trade? :lol:

If we catch Orlando being optimistic about next year with the 7-8 record in their last 15, maybe they start looking who can be around for 3+ years, which Caris should still be able to do but Harris wouldn't. Then they free cap space but can consider re-upping with Caris if they can't lure the slightly higher tier of guys like Kyrie or FVV or Gary Trent Jr. to their backcourt.

I'd kick in a 2nd or two, if they really wanted it. Might even get a protected 1st out of Phoenix if they want LeVert and send Shamet/Saric to Orlando.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1049 » by ijspeelman » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:25 am

Read on Twitter


Kinda wild, but understandable. His defense wasn't going to cut in the playoffs on heavy minutes. I assume he will pop up here and there if he isn't traded to attempt to be a flamethrower again.

Was at the game today and he didn't seem thrilled at the end, but maybe I am reading too much into his face haha
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1050 » by jbk1234 » Mon Feb 6, 2023 5:13 am

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Read on Twitter


Kinda wild, but understandable. His defense wasn't going to cut in the playoffs on heavy minutes. I assume he will pop up here and there if he isn't traded to attempt to be a flamethrower again.

Was at the game today and he didn't seem thrilled at the end, but maybe I am reading too much into his face haha


Sucks for Love, but I get it. He's got to shoot 40% from 3 just to get to nuetral on the floor these days and he's been slumping. It's just unfortunate that he didn't get more run with Rubio as those two had some real synergy last season.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1051 » by JonFromVA » Mon Feb 6, 2023 3:17 pm

If only our roster could stay healthy enough and shoot well enough, that we wouldn't need Kevin ... but Dean deserves it and we need to know if he is our future backup PF, starting SF, or what.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1052 » by ijspeelman » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:05 am

Top four teams in adjusted net rating?

1. Celtics SRS 5.69
2. Cavaliers SRS 5.68
3. Nuggets 4.17
4. Grizzlies 3.63

Top 4 in unadjusted net rating if you don’t like adjustments?

1. Celtics +6.0
2. Cavaliers +5.8
3. Nuggets +4.4
4. Grizzlies +3.8

With how much we’ve underperformed record wise, we are showing to be an elite team in the NBA.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1053 » by JonFromVA » Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:01 am

ijspeelman wrote:Top four teams in adjusted net rating?

1. Celtics SRS 5.69
2. Cavaliers SRS 5.68
3. Nuggets 4.17
4. Grizzlies 3.63

Top 4 in unadjusted net rating if you don’t like adjustments?

1. Celtics +6.0
2. Cavaliers +5.8
3. Nuggets +4.4
4. Grizzlies +3.8

With how much we’ve underperformed record wise, we are showing to be an elite team in the NBA.


Interestingly +6 for best in the league is not very high, a sign of parity, rest days, injuries or something.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1054 » by ijspeelman » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:22 pm

Cavs are officially number one in SRS

Which means I get to look at bball reference saying we have the highest odds of winning the finals.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1055 » by JonFromVA » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:32 pm

ijspeelman wrote:Cavs are officially number one in SRS

Which means I get to look at bball reference saying we have the highest odds of winning the finals.


A contender by the numbers, just not by experience ... but I've said all season its not like the teams ahead of us in East are that strong. Health will likely have something to say about the outcome.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1056 » by mcfly1204 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:33 pm

21 games left, any guesses on how we finish out the season? Current win percentage has us going 13-8. Over\under on 13 wins over the next 21 games?
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1057 » by ijspeelman » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:40 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:21 games left, any guesses on how we finish out the season? Current win percentage has us going 13-8. Over\under on 13 wins over the next 21 games?


Over. I still have the possibility of going 17-4 as a feasible, but far-reaching goal. We have an extremely easy schedule ending the year and now only play 4 more games against the top 8 teams in the league.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1058 » by jbk1234 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:11 pm

ijspeelman wrote:Cavs are officially number one in SRS

Which means I get to look at bball reference saying we have the highest odds of winning the finals.


That's not what it means. Look at their record against the top-6 teams in each conference (when both teams are relatively healthy). That's the best predictor for post season performance because that's who you have to beat to advance.
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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1059 » by KuruptedCav » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:21 games left, any guesses on how we finish out the season? Current win percentage has us going 13-8. Over\under on 13 wins over the next 21 games?

12-9; I think Brooklyn stumbles and last couple games don’t end up mattering and Cavs play down to that expectation.


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Re: 2022-23 Regular Season 

Post#1060 » by ijspeelman » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:46 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:Cavs are officially number one in SRS

Which means I get to look at bball reference saying we have the highest odds of winning the finals.


That's not what it means. Look at their record against the top-6 teams in each conference (when both teams are relatively healthy). That's the best predictor for post season performance because that's who you have to beat to advance.


I’m just saying that’s how bball ref calculates it

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