2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[CWebb2491]

We’re also in a great position… if a star were to ask out. 2 picks and a handful of youthful talent, and a deep bench to fill in the holes.


Herro, and one of Jaquez/Ware and 2 firsts is as good a package as any. Curious to see how the Giannis situation plays out.

[Hoops3355]

Herro
Powell
Larsson
Wiggins
Bam

I’m guessing Dru and Davion will split the backup duties. Wiggs is the only one averaging 33 minutes per game, and every other starter hover around 30 minutes, that kind of playing time for every player would be huge given the pace we're playing at. We are deep AF.

I feel Larson is blossoming right before our eyes. His ability to draw fouls is insane for a 2nd year guard. His defense is great and he does all the dirty work, little things. He’s Udonis Haslem with hops and a 3pt shot if UD was 6’5 and was Swedish.

Him and Jaquez have been pleasant surprises this season. Imagine at the end of last season that Jaquez, Mitchell and Ware would be blossoming and were wanting Larson to start over them because he’s blossoming as well. It’s a good problem to have.

VERY curious to see what level Herro plays with this team. He was looking elite to start last season playing off the ball.

Agree with your thoughts. Jovic just living to disappoint me this season isn't taking that SF role.

I've been sorta sitting on this vibe too. I went to the game in Chicago sat like 12 rows up it was the first time I've seen the Heat play this season in person. Pelle is a baller. I basically just watched him and talked chat to my Aunt and Uncle in-laws (both 40+ year season ticket holders) and he just has such a great feel for the game. The movement is always efficient, he's never panicking, shot is true. I was really impressed with his just overall game. Imo he's an off-season of dribble packages away from being a really piece given how polished everything else already is.

JJJ was messed up all last season. He clearly had a soft tissue injury given just how unathletic he was during stretches vs his rookie and current season. I was a broken record in the Reg. Season thread about it.

[CWebb2491]

Herro
Powell
Larsson
Wiggins
Bam

I’m guessing Dru and Davion will split the backup duties. Wiggs is the only one averaging 33 minutes per game, and every other starter hover around 30 minutes, that kind of playing time for every player would be huge given the pace we're playing at. We are deep AF.

I feel Larson is blossoming right before our eyes. His ability to draw fouls is insane for a 2nd year guard. His defense is great and he does all the dirty work, little things. He’s Udonis Haslem with hops and a 3pt shot if UD was 6’5 and was Swedish.

Him and Jaquez have been pleasant surprises this season. Imagine at the end of last season that Jaquez, Mitchell and Ware would be blossoming and were wanting Larson to start over them because he’s blossoming as well. It’s a good problem to have.

VERY curious to see what level Herro plays with this team. He was looking elite to start last season playing off the ball.

Agree with your thoughts. Jovic just living to disappoint me this season isn't taking that SF role.

I've been sorta sitting on this vibe too. I went to the game in Chicago sat like 12 rows up it was the first time I've seen the Heat play this season in person. Pelle is a baller. I basically just watched him and talked chat to my Aunt and Uncle in-laws (both 40+ year season ticket holders) and he just has such a great feel for the game. The movement is always efficient, he's never panicking, shot is true. I was really impressed with his just overall game. Imo he's an off-season of dribble packages away from being a really piece given how polished everything else already is.

JJJ was messed up all last season. He clearly had a soft tissue injury given just how unathletic he was during stretches vs his rookie and current season. I was a broken record in the Reg. Season thread about it.

There’s ALOT potential in Larson. Even in Jaquez.

Like you said….IMAGINE Larson with handles….. he’s drawing fouls by being a slasher only, imagine him in control consistently driving to the rim….

Now

Imagine Jaquez with a developed 3pt shot. It would unlock the court for him. Would let him drive to the rim with less pressure if they’re guarding him out at the 3pt line.

Those 2 have another level in them.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Saw Middleton as a buyout option mentioned on here to help rebounding, well here’s another.

17-10-3 a night shooting 41% from 3 on 5 attempts and has 2 buzzer beating game winning 3s already this season.

“But wut about da pace?!?!”

Bulls play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league right now and he seems to be doing fine. Plus for the vet minimum post buyout there’s very little risk to at least test it. He’s a massive body.

[twix2500]

Read on Twitter

Saw Middleton as a buyout option mentioned on here to help rebounding, well here’s another.

17-10-3 a night shooting 41% from 3 on 5 attempts and has 2 buzzer beating game winning 3s already this season.

“But wut about da pace?!?!”

Bulls play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league right now and he seems to be doing fine. Plus for the vet minimum post buyout there’s very little risk to at least test it. He’s a massive body.

100 yrs has past and people still haven't learned Spo isn't comfortable coaching a big team

[MorbidHEAT]

This was a few days ago, but Bam’s “Joy Dealer” cap after beating the Warriors, was cold.

[Lennyzinho]

Read on Twitter

Saw Middleton as a buyout option mentioned on here to help rebounding, well here’s another.

17-10-3 a night shooting 41% from 3 on 5 attempts and has 2 buzzer beating game winning 3s already this season.

“But wut about da pace?!?!”

Bulls play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league right now and he seems to be doing fine. Plus for the vet minimum post buyout there’s very little risk to at least test it. He’s a massive body.

I'd love vooch but in what world with the Bulls playing how they are, would they just give him away or buy him out? Bulls would really need to keep sliding.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Saw Middleton as a buyout option mentioned on here to help rebounding, well here’s another.

17-10-3 a night shooting 41% from 3 on 5 attempts and has 2 buzzer beating game winning 3s already this season.

“But wut about da pace?!?!”

Bulls play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league right now and he seems to be doing fine. Plus for the vet minimum post buyout there’s very little risk to at least test it. He’s a massive body.

100 yrs has past and people still haven't learned Spo isn't comfortable coaching a big team

Spo can coach any team and he’s begun to lean more on size

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Saw Middleton as a buyout option mentioned on here to help rebounding, well here’s another.

17-10-3 a night shooting 41% from 3 on 5 attempts and has 2 buzzer beating game winning 3s already this season.

“But wut about da pace?!?!”

Bulls play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league right now and he seems to be doing fine. Plus for the vet minimum post buyout there’s very little risk to at least test it. He’s a massive body.

I'd love vooch but in what world with the Bulls playing how they are, would they just give him away or buy him out? Bulls would really need to keep sliding.

They were off to a very got start but have been terrible since then. The margins are close, they just beat the Wizards by 1 and have 2 games won on buzzer beating 3s, the ball bounces different and that could be 3 more losses. They’re in 9th with the Celtics and Bucks on their heels, definitely a possibility they fall out of the play in. I’d be cool with a Rozier and 2nd swap for Vuc too around the deadline if needed, I actually think he wants to be in Miami

[lastb1ckman]

Yeah with our play style and tendency to get hurt, I can't imagine why folks wanna do a consolidation trade or get off Herro. Powell or someone is going to get hurt, we need more bodies, especially plus scorers and rebounders like Herro

Because as surprisingly good as this team is, it's clear that they are not title contending good.

Mia lacks a true star player who can control the game in the last 5 minutes against title contending teams.

If the goal is just to make it into the playoffs and maybe win a round, then the current roster and play style looks to be sufficient.

But If there are bigger goals in play, a consolidation trade to acquire a star capable of matching or even outplaying the opposing team's star will be a necessary add.

The problem with this, is that the only realistic options are more injury prone prone guards with far worse personality and play style issues than Herro, even if their ceilings are higher. For as flawed Herro is, we know he'll buy in and do what's asked of him. Ja and Lamelo famously don't. Odds are say goodbye to our new offense with these two here.

[Lennyzinho]

Read on Twitter

Saw Middleton as a buyout option mentioned on here to help rebounding, well here’s another.

17-10-3 a night shooting 41% from 3 on 5 attempts and has 2 buzzer beating game winning 3s already this season.

“But wut about da pace?!?!”

Bulls play at the 2nd fastest pace in the league right now and he seems to be doing fine. Plus for the vet minimum post buyout there’s very little risk to at least test it. He’s a massive body.

I'd love vooch but in what world with the Bulls playing how they are, would they just give him away or buy him out? Bulls would really need to keep sliding.

They were off to a very got start but have been terrible since then. The margins are close, they just beat the Wizards by 1 and have 2 games won on buzzer beating 3s, the ball bounces different and that could be 3 more losses. They’re in 9th with the Celtics and Bucks on their heels, definitely a possibility they fall out of the play in. I’d be cool with a Rozier and 2nd swap for Vuc too around the deadline if needed, I actually think he wants to be in Miami

Ya if they fall to 11th and there's a few games between them and the 9-10th place teams, maybe they just give up. They own their own pick. If its clear they can't compete and they're young with giddey 23 buzelis 21 white 25 and vooch expiring, there's definitely a world where they buy him out. I dont think they'll make the dumb miami 2024-2025 decision of trying to win play in game just to get a worse pick and embarrassed in playoffs.

They'll of course try to trade him first. If they cant get anything for him itll probably be cuz of the CBA rules and restrictions making it hard to work things out. And then we gotta hope he wants to come here and the nba gives us some kind of exception for rozier etc.

[Beenie]

Yeah with our play style and tendency to get hurt, I can't imagine why folks wanna do a consolidation trade or get off Herro. Powell or someone is going to get hurt, we need more bodies, especially plus scorers and rebounders like Herro

Because as surprisingly good as this team is, it's clear that they are not title contending good.

Mia lacks a true star player who can control the game in the last 5 minutes against title contending teams.

If the goal is just to make it into the playoffs and maybe win a round, then the current roster and play style looks to be sufficient.

But If there are bigger goals in play, a consolidation trade to acquire a star capable of matching or even outplaying the opposing team's star will be a necessary add.

The problem with this, is that the only realistic options are more injury prone prone guards with far worse personality and play style issues than Herro, even if their ceilings are higher. For as flawed Herro is, we know he'll buy in and do what's asked of him. Ja and Lamelo famously don't. Odds are say goodbye to our new offense with these two here.

If the hypothetical trades are limited to these three players only, there are legit reasons to abstain.

In a fantasy world where Mia could land either of those guys in a 1 for 1 deal for Herro, personally, I would be in favor of doing any of those deals because, in the case of Trae and Ja, they are both superior playoff performers than Herro is. I also think Ball would in theory be a better playoff performer.

Realistically though it’s gonna cost Mia more than just Herro to get any of them and depending on the price, it might just be too rich to do any of these proposals.

[greg4012]

Can we play Ware, Bam, Wiggs, Powell and Herro together without crashing out on D? Id love for one of Powell or Herro to come off the bench.

Powell is pretty neutral as a defender from what I've seen. Herro is probably the weak link defensively but that's to be expected in any Herro minutes. With Powell's 6'11 wingspan that lineup is actually pretty big.

The question is if Ware can become the plus defender that he shows flashes of being. If he can play team defense and continue to progress then I don't see why that lineup can't work on defense.

The Herro and Powell minute distribution should net out to about 12 minutes per game. IMO those minutes should all come with Bam and Wiggins on the floor with them.

Miami had a top 11 defense in 2021 with Duncan Robinson and Kendrick Nunn as regular starters. Miami had a top 5 defense in 2024 with Herro, Duncan and Jovic among the top 5 on the team in games started. Miami had a top 10 defense last season with Herro, Duncan and Ware among the top 5 on the team in games started and Herro, Duncan and Rozier among the top 5 in total minutes played.

I think the big thing with this team finding health (hopefully) is virtually no one playing more than 30 mpg in the reg season. Keeps everyone fresh enough to go balls out when on the floor and maintain the rabid pace.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Just want to reiterate we probably aren’t doing a single thing trade wise until we know for a fact Giannis isn’t being moved by the deadline. The Bucks currently sit at the 11th seed, if they continue to struggle things get interesting, I don’t think Giannis wants to waste a season of his prime.

In the meantime, our assets look more and more promising by the day and if we can get a resolution on the Terry thing by February and in a perfect world, our pick back, things are about to get real interesting. We have a very strong offer

[MadD23]

I think the lineup and minute questions that will arise with Herro return and hopeful health for the roster will just result in a deeper rotation and potentially result in no one playing more than 30 mpg. If Miami can do that, that's great for managing the roster considering the toll of running the fastest pace in the NBA. Good approach for hopeful sustainability.

I was thinking this same thing. Deeper with enough talent to keep fresh legs at all times going 100 miles per hour at teams for 48 minutes. Not a bad approach with this team. Hopefully Spo has the same mindset.