Lather me with blather -- DRAFT thread 4

[jangles86]

Well I'm hoping Kanter falls to 6.

If not, I wouldn't be mad with a Singleton and Vucevic draft.

I wouldnt. Singleton has no business for pick 6.

His transition offence is terrible and all round finishing is just plain woeful. Hed be a terrible idea at 6. Leonard is streets ahead in nearly every facet.

Looking at Tyler Honeycutt's vids, he looks a top noth shooter and great player for pick and roll.

[closg00]

The Wizards have picked up the third-year options on rookies John Wall, Jordan Crawford, Trevor Booker and Kevin Seraphin, while extending qualifying offers for restricted free agents Nick Young, Hamady Ndiaye, Othyus Jeffers and Larry Owens

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

So our current depth chart is:

PG: Wall/Crawford
SG: Young/Crawford/Jeffers
SF: Lewis/Owens
PF: Blatche/Booker
C: McGee/Seraphin/Ndiaye

So with this^ roster who do we target if Kanter is gone? Vesely or Leonard 1st followed by one of the stretch-4 prospects at 18 for depth at PF - Harper/Harris/ JJohnson?

The 3rd pick could be a stasher, but I think a banger/rebounder like Williams could have a place on this team @34. A PG could be a possiblity also.

[closg00]

Donatas has really fill-out and looks much better in his new workout video, i think he's a lock to go to Houston or Utah.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Don ... unas-1300/

[nate33]

The Wizards have picked up the third-year options on rookies John Wall, Jordan Crawford, Trevor Booker and Kevin Seraphin, while extending qualifying offers for restricted free agents Nick Young, Hamady Ndiaye, Othyus Jeffers and Larry Owens

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

So our current depth chart is:

PG: Wall/Crawford
SG: Young/Crawford/Jeffers
SF: Lewis/Owens
PF: Blatche/Booker
C: McGee/Seraphin/Ndiaye

So with this^ roster who do we target if Kanter is gone? Vesely or Leonard 1st followed by one of the stretch-4 prospects at 18 for depth at PF - Harper/Harris/ JJohnson?

The 3rd pick could be a stasher, but I think a banger/rebounder like Williams could have a place on this team @34. A PG could be a possiblity also.

Wow. I'm a bit surprised that they extended offers for Owens, N'Diaye and Jeffers (well, Jeffers I can understand). That means that we may end up with 11 guys under contract not counting our draft picks. If we keep all 3 picks, that's 14 players, 10 of whom having no more than one year of experience (and with 3 of the "vets" being Young, Blatche and McGee). That's a coach's nightmare.

I'd really prefer if at least one of Owens/N'Diaye was let go and we added a vet in their place. It would probably also make sense to trade our #34, or use it to move up from #18 as Hoopalotta suggests. That would free up another roster spot for a second veteran.

[Dark Faze]

This is pretty much why I kind of just want to move up. We know we want a pick for next years draft...and I just don't see how we can hang on to all of these rooks if we're looking to bring in 3 this year.

I think a trade is definitely going down.

[GhostsOfGil]

extending the qualifying offer to jeffers is probably the best news ive heard on the wizards front, for a long time

[thinker07]

Extending qualifying offers hardly means that we are going to keep all of Jeffers, Owens and Hamady - It just gives us the option of bringing any of them back if we want. We have flexibility to mix and match depending on what happens in the draft. If we end up drafting - let's say Vesely or Leonard and Jordan Hamilton I imagine we wouldn't keep Owens.

[closg00]

Jeffers, Owens, and Hamady could be draft-night trade-filler is what I'm thinking, not all, but the oprion is there.

[doclinkin]

The Wizards will have a workout on Monday with Richmond point guard Kevin Anderson, Iowa State guard Diante Garrett, Demonte Harper of Morehead State, Frank Hassell of Old Dominion, IUPUI guard Leroy Nobles and Old Westbury center Lester Prosper.

Looks like the wiz are doing their backdoor background on Justin Harper and Kenneth Fareid. I like Anderson as a clutch scrappy fighter, but the only reason they're pulling these cats in is to find out more about their teammates, and because htey've been closely watching film on them both and notices who was feeding them or playing off them.

I do like Frank Hassell though I doubt his game translates. Big body groundbound wideload rebounder. Seemingly a nice guy though.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

The guy I think is under the radar is Vucavic. If we don't get Kanter at 6, I'd like to go with a forward there & shoot for Vucavic at 18.

He isn't too far off from Kanter IMO, is a true center with good length & size, fundamentally strong, can rebound and shoot. Perfect pick n pop guy for Wall.

Some others I'm liking at 34 are Thompkins a true PF with skill & physical game, Harper sharp shooting stretch 4 from Richmond, Parsons jack of all trades SF, Holiday defensive SG, Hansbrough tough & heady PG, and Smith combo G and former Bullets ballboy would be a great story and addition to the team.

[Liverbird]

If the Wiz decide to keep #34 - I'd like to see us draft Jimmy Butler. To me he has all the intangibles to be a great glue guy off the bench - a Shane Battier lite. Ideally EG looks to consolidate #18 and #34 and move up as adding another 3 more rookies to an already young team is too much. We need a few veterans.

[closg00]

The guy I think is under the radar is Vucavic. If we don't get Kanter at 6, I'd like to go with a forward there & shoot for Vucavic at 18.

He isn't too far off from Kanter IMO, is a true center with good length & size, fundamentally strong, can rebound and shoot. Perfect pick n pop guy for Wall.

Some others I'm liking at 34 are Thompkins a true PF with skill & physical game, Harper sharp shooting stretch 4 from Richmond, Parsons jack of all trades SF, Holiday defensive SG, Hansbrough tough & heady PG, and Smith combo G and former Bullets ballboy would be a great story and addition to the team.

Vuvevic is no-longer under the radar at this point, he could go anywhere high to low in the 1st round. If we don't get Kanter, we could take Jordan Hamilton @ 6, Vuevic @ 18 (if available) @34 best PG available. I like Vuevic long-term prospects as a versatile bench big.

PG: Wall/BPA PG/Crawford
SG: Young/Crawford/Jeffers
SF: Lewis/Hamilton/Owens
PF: Blatche/Vuvevic/Booker
C: McGee/Seraphin/Ndiaye

[hands11]

The Wizards have picked up the third-year options on rookies John Wall, Jordan Crawford, Trevor Booker and Kevin Seraphin, while extending qualifying offers for restricted free agents Nick Young, Hamady Ndiaye, Othyus Jeffers and Larry Owens

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

So our current depth chart is:

PG: Wall/Crawford
SG: Young/Crawford/Jeffers
SF: Lewis/Owens
PF: Blatche/Booker
C: McGee/Seraphin/Ndiaye

So with this^ roster who do we target if Kanter is gone? Vesely or Leonard 1st followed by one of the stretch-4 prospects at 18 for depth at PF - Harper/Harris/ JJohnson?

The 3rd pick could be a stasher, but I think a banger/rebounder like Williams could have a place on this team @34. A PG could be a possiblity also.

Wow. I'm a bit surprised that they extended offers for Owens, N'Diaye and Jeffers (well, Jeffers I can understand). That means that we may end up with 11 guys under contract not counting our draft picks. If we keep all 3 picks, that's 14 players, 10 of whom having no more than one year of experience (and with 3 of the "vets" being Young, Blatche and McGee). That's a coach's nightmare.

I'd really prefer if at least one of Owens/N'Diaye was let go and we added a vet in their place. It would probably also make sense to trade our #34, or use it to move up from #18 as Hoopalotta suggests. That would free up another roster spot for a second veteran.

Hamady is the one I am least surprised they extended an offer to. Glad to see they are keeping Othyus around. He is a mature cool cat and besides, how many teams can say that have a dude with a cool as name like Othyus?

As for adding to many young players, it really isn't a problem if you add the right ones. Players like Wall and Booker are not problems but assets to a coach. As long as they stay focused on adding hard working mature players, youth will not be an issue. Personality then talent. If you don't like the first, don't fall for the second. At least not at this point with this team.

That is what I like players like Brooks, Harper, Tobias and Vucevic. Jimmer will also be a sold personality. Kyrie seems like a very mature person.

Who I am not sold on personality wise - Williams.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Der ... iams-5811/
"Even I amaze myself sometimes" Really. He just seems a little to snug for my liking.

or

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kawhi-Leonard-5821/
Nothing really bad here but he seems a little to sleepy to me. Not a personality I think would work well for this team.

or
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tri ... pson-5226/
Hmm. The gay Chris Rock. Nothing really wrong but something didn't work for me.

vs

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mar ... ooks-6347/
Seems very mature and polished. I can see a little Kobe type personality in there. Star potential.

or
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tobias-Harris-5740/
Already a man. A worker bee. Hard work. Do the right things on and off the court. Defense and ending up extending game to cover out to the 2.
Defiantly a Battier personality.

or
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nik ... evic-5828/
Very mature. His whole day is schedule to get better. Eats right. Fruits. I really liked how he looked in the work out drills. Models after Pau Gasol and Dirk.

or
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Justin-Harper-6341/
Seems like a kid still but a good kid. I don't see him causing any problem. Doesn't seem like a leader but a solid follower.

or
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Enes-Kanter-5168/
Great team/family focus. He couldn't play but stuck around to help the team. Very positive energy in his personality.

And for all that has been sad negative about this young man, I think he shows great maturity and have Star power. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jeremy-Tyler-1327/

There are two star potentials in here. Brooks and Tyler. One Kobe. One Webber.
Vucevic will be a solid player who has borderline Star potential longer term.
Tobias is a pretty safe beat to be a solid worker bee and
Harper is solid as a roll player with upside depending on how his personality matures. Kid needs a little more edge.

[FAH1223]

It sounds like Sacramento is split on Jimmer Fredette. Ownership wants him at #7, coaches do not. My guess? Coaches win and Kings draft SF.
http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

Sources tell me Kings unlikely to draft Jimmer Fredette. Kawhi Leonard appears to be Kings' top guy: http://bit.ly/iPkaYd

Sources tell me Jazz, Suns could both be considering Jimmer Fredette + Chris Singleton, Rockets targeting Motiejunas: http://bit.ly/iPkaYd

Sources tell me Cavs will draft Irving, T-Wolves will draft Williams, Jazz will draft Knight: http://bit.ly/lJygix
http://twitter.com/TheHoopsReport

It also say in the article that Bulls could take Nolan Smith at 28 or 30 and like Singler as well
It also says Brooks is likely at 15 or 17.
I was told the Kings liked Leonard a lot and he was top their list(this was from my Sac source). The reason I bring this up is they also told me they heard Bulls were talking to Houston about 14. Well from this new article Pduh01 posted it has Brooks at 15 to Indy and NY at 17. The Bulls would need to jump Indy for Brooks and that's where Houston talks for 14 makes sense.

If you piece it together the Bulls if trading up with Houston at 14 is most likely for Brooks.

[NbdyBeatsTheWiz]

Sources tell me Cavs will draft Irving, T-Wolves will draft Williams, Jazz will draft Knight: http://bit.ly/lJygix
http://twitter.com/TheHoopsReport

Well that would certainly get the ball rolling in the right direction.

Thanks for the links!

[mhd]

Multiple places have slotted Tobias Harris at 18. He's a classic EG pick in that he's talented, boom/bust prospect.

[pcbothwel]

I'll be the first one to say that I did not like Montejunas at all over the last year because he seemed like a heartless Barnani and was being touted as a top 7 pick. While I still hate his defense and effort, I believe he is settleing in the perfect spot just outside the lottery. He put on some quality weight and his athleticism is showing more (the same I expect from Valanciunas when he puts on some muscle). If he happened to fall to 18 I would snatch him up immediatley as I think he can contribute much like Blatche with his diverse skill set, size, and passing.

BTW, If anyone heard Givonys most recent podcast he said something to the effect of "There is gonna be a couple major moves before the draft to move salary before the CBA expires that will make all this draft talk meaningless because of the trades"
That is a pretty strong statement just a few days away from the draft.

[GhostsOfGil]

Sources tell me Cavs will draft Irving, T-Wolves will draft Williams, Jazz will draft Knight: http://bit.ly/lJygix
http://twitter.com/TheHoopsReport

Well that would certainly get the ball rolling in the right direction.

Thanks for the links!

if cavs pass on kanter at 4, theres a good chance he could slip to us

[fishercob]

If teams 1-5 pass on Kanter, I think he could slip to us.

[montestewart]

The gay Chris Rock.

Huh? Is Chris Rock gay? Is Tristan Thompson gay? What does gay have to do with any of this? Doesn't homophobia belong in the political roundtable?