Future Free Agent Thread

[Daddy 801]

The Wiz are not interested in taking on contracts, Portis is a goner and the wiz like brown.

So Wiz are not matching?

Highly doubt it, they don't want to pay the tax. They only could afford to retain one of Portis and Parker and signs point to parker as both sides have mutual interest after they declined Parker's option.

The Wizards would be able to waive Favors and save 17 million. That’s the whole point of the trade.

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I want someone who knows the CBA to tell me what happens if we do this:

1. absorb Conley into capspace but we are close to our salary cap
2. trade Favors for Gallinari which gets us above the salary cap

Does that make us a full MLE team? Or do we still only have the room MLE?

My understanding is that if you use your salary space at all it means you only have the room exception.

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[Stern Fixer]

What, free agents actually want to come play in Utah? Nobody wants to play in Utah, at least that's what I'd been told. Jeez, why don't we blow up the team to accommodate them then. Or hold on, wouldn't it make more sense just to move the glass man for Dario Saric and filler - Phoenix is still desperate for a point guard. Or just renegotiate the Memphis deal and swap out Exum for Crowder. Ex is the guy they were after during regular season talks.

[babyjax13]

I bet we dump Dante and Tony Bradley to sign Portis, and then sign a wing or combo guard for the MLE (Seth Curry?). Resign Thabo and hopefully Ekpe (likely not), roll with:

Gobert/Favors
Favors/Portis/Niang
Ingles/Royce/Thabo
Mitchell/Curry/Royce
Conley/Mitchell/???

If we can do that I'll warm up to the Conley trade. We'd be a contender, IMO.

[KqWIN]

I'm out on Portis. It's too big of a commitment for someone who's probably better off playing as a C. If you want Portis badly, then drop Favors. We can't be using everything for Gobert backups.

[Calhamid94]

I bet we dump Dante and Tony Bradley to sign Portis, and then sign a wing or combo guard for the MLE (Seth Curry?). Resign Thabo and hopefully Ekpe (likely not), roll with:

Gobert/Favors
Favors/Portis/Niang
Ingles/Royce/Thabo
Mitchell/Curry/Royce
Conley/Mitchell/???

If we can do that I'll warm up to the Conley trade. We'd be a contender, IMO.

I actually really like that idea. Our team would have more depth and another great shooter. Curry’s defense is also underrated. Would you rather have Mirotic and Portis, Randle and Portis or Favors and Portis? I wouldn’t mind going after Patrick Beverly as our backup PG.

[babyjax13]

I'm out on Portis. It's too big of a commitment for someone who's probably better off playing as a C. If you want Portis badly, then drop Favors. We can't be using everything for Gobert backups.

Fair enough. Portis will shoot over 37 percent from three, though. I wonder if that amount of cap would open up Thad. Then we'd have someone specifically to check LeBron.

[AingesBurner]

I bet we dump Dante and Tony Bradley to sign Portis, and then sign a wing or combo guard for the MLE (Seth Curry?). Resign Thabo and hopefully Ekpe (likely not), roll with:

Gobert/Favors
Favors/Portis/Niang
Ingles/Royce/Thabo
Mitchell/Curry/Royce
Conley/Mitchell/???

If we can do that I'll warm up to the Conley trade. We'd be a contender, IMO.

Why not dump Favors, keep Exum, sign Portis and get Arica and Curry?

[babyjax13]

I bet we dump Dante and Tony Bradley to sign Portis, and then sign a wing or combo guard for the MLE (Seth Curry?). Resign Thabo and hopefully Ekpe (likely not), roll with:

Gobert/Favors
Favors/Portis/Niang
Ingles/Royce/Thabo
Mitchell/Curry/Royce
Conley/Mitchell/???

If we can do that I'll warm up to the Conley trade. We'd be a contender, IMO.

I actually really like that idea. Our team would have more depth and another great shooter. Curry’s defense is also underrated. Would you rather have Mirotic and Portis, Randle and Portis or Favors and Portis? I wouldn’t mind going after Patrick Beverly as our backup PG.

Id probably prefer Favors and Mitotic tbh

[babyjax13]

I bet we dump Dante and Tony Bradley to sign Portis, and then sign a wing or combo guard for the MLE (Seth Curry?). Resign Thabo and hopefully Ekpe (likely not), roll with:

Gobert/Favors
Favors/Portis/Niang
Ingles/Royce/Thabo
Mitchell/Curry/Royce
Conley/Mitchell/???

If we can do that I'll warm up to the Conley trade. We'd be a contender, IMO.

Why not dump Favors, keep Exum, sign Portis and get Arica and Curry?

Because Dante sucks. If we sacrifice Favors to keep Dante that'd be stupid

[AingesBurner]

I bet we dump Dante and Tony Bradley to sign Portis, and then sign a wing or combo guard for the MLE (Seth Curry?). Resign Thabo and hopefully Ekpe (likely not), roll with:

Gobert/Favors
Favors/Portis/Niang
Ingles/Royce/Thabo
Mitchell/Curry/Royce
Conley/Mitchell/???

If we can do that I'll warm up to the Conley trade. We'd be a contender, IMO.

Why not dump Favors, keep Exum, sign Portis and get Arica and Curry?

Because Dante sucks. If we sacrifice Favors to keep Dante that'd be stupid

Then dump both because we don’t need an 18 mill backup.

[Rainwater]

So Wiz are not matching?

Highly doubt it, they don't want to pay the tax. They only could afford to retain one of Portis and Parker and signs point to parker as both sides have mutual interest after they declined Parker's option.

The Wizards would be able to waive Favors and save 17 million. That’s the whole point of the trade.

Sorry, I missed understood you. I still don't think the Wiz do it. They really do like Troy Brown Jr.

[Inigo Montoya]

I do have to agree that the FO knew they weren't getting anyone of note in FA, and that's why they didn't bother with FA. At least that's what you hope as a fan, otherwise it reeks of incompetence. Of course trading 5 FRP in 3 years for continued PG rentals doesn't help with that image....

This is what is so strange with Tony Jones' reporting lately. Apparently, Harris and Porter have strong interest in playing for the Jazz according to him. I do wonder where he gets that from and what his information is based on. One would imagine the Jazz knew that before the Conley trade, if true, and that this isn't coming out of the blue that these players have strong interest in playing for the Jazz. Something isn't right.

I do think the Jazz needed to wait until free agency started before the pulled the trigger on the Conley trade. It would have still been an option if they struck out, imho.

[Calhamid94]

I bet we dump Dante and Tony Bradley to sign Portis, and then sign a wing or combo guard for the MLE (Seth Curry?). Resign Thabo and hopefully Ekpe (likely not), roll with:

Gobert/Favors
Favors/Portis/Niang
Ingles/Royce/Thabo
Mitchell/Curry/Royce
Conley/Mitchell/???

If we can do that I'll warm up to the Conley trade. We'd be a contender, IMO.

I actually really like that idea. Our team would have more depth and another great shooter. Curry’s defense is also underrated. Would you rather have Mirotic and Portis, Randle and Portis or Favors and Portis? I wouldn’t mind going after Patrick Beverly as our backup PG.

Id probably prefer Favors and Mitotic tbh

If we trade Exum, waive Niang and waive Neto we could maybe have enough for Portis if he accepts our offer. Mirotic is a little more expensive, so we’d most likely have to move another piece to acquire him. If we trade Favors, trade Exum and waive Neto and Niang, we could possibly get mirotic and portis, then sign a PG. I don’t think Mirotic is going to happen if we keep favors

[Rauxcee]

This is what is so strange with Tony Jones' reporting lately. Apparently, Harris and Porter have strong interest in playing for the Jazz according to him. I do wonder where he gets that from and what his information is based on. One would imagine the Jazz knew that before the Conley trade, if true, and that this isn't coming out of the blue that these players have strong interest in playing for the Jazz. Something isn't right.

I do think the Jazz needed to wait until free agency started before the pulled the trigger on the Conley trade. It would have still been an option if they struck out, imho.

I so wanted the Jazz to wait. Conley should have been plan C, not plan A.

Are these players only interested now because of Conley? Which can't be quite right because Harris was talked about before the trade, and even a year or so ago. Is Tony Jones exaggerating on the amount of interest? Its odd.

[TO11]

I do have to agree that the FO knew they weren't getting anyone of note in FA, and that's why they didn't bother with FA. At least that's what you hope as a fan, otherwise it reeks of incompetence. Of course trading 5 FRP in 3 years for continued PG rentals doesn't help with that image....

This is what is so strange with Tony Jones' reporting lately. Apparently, Harris and Porter have strong interest in playing for the Jazz according to him. I do wonder where he gets that from and what his information is based on. One would imagine the Jazz knew that before the Conley trade, if true, and that this isn't coming out of the blue that these players have strong interest in playing for the Jazz. Something isn't right.

I do think the Jazz needed to wait until free agency started before the pulled the trigger on the Conley trade. It would have still been an option if they struck out, imho.

Perhaps the FO really wanted to trade away this year's draft pick in particular. I don't think they felt there was much promise in this draft and so wanted this draft pick to be part of the package. I am sure that the Grizzlies preferred the pick pre-draft as well.

[Inigo Montoya]

I do have to agree that the FO knew they weren't getting anyone of note in FA, and that's why they didn't bother with FA. At least that's what you hope as a fan, otherwise it reeks of incompetence. Of course trading 5 FRP in 3 years for continued PG rentals doesn't help with that image....

This is what is so strange with Tony Jones' reporting lately. Apparently, Harris and Porter have strong interest in playing for the Jazz according to him. I do wonder where he gets that from and what his information is based on. One would imagine the Jazz knew that before the Conley trade, if true, and that this isn't coming out of the blue that these players have strong interest in playing for the Jazz. Something isn't right.

I do think the Jazz needed to wait until free agency started before the pulled the trigger on the Conley trade. It would have still been an option if they struck out, imho.

Perhaps the FO really wanted to trade away this year's draft pick in particular. I don't think they felt there was much promise in this draft and so wanted this draft pick to be part of the package. I am sure that the Grizzlies preferred the pick pre-draft as well.

If that was the case, the Jazz could have picked any player Memphis wanted, since they didn't care about the draft so much, and then trade him later as part of the deal after free agency started and they struck out.

[Calhamid94]

The wizards are going to decline Parkers option. I hope they don’t match any offer we make for Portis. Maybe they’ll do a sign and trade with us, Porter and satoranski for favors and Neto. Then we could trade Exum and get another 4 with the money we’ll save from trading him.

[Luigi]

This is what is so strange with Tony Jones' reporting lately. Apparently, Harris and Porter have strong interest in playing for the Jazz according to him. I do wonder where he gets that from and what his information is based on. One would imagine the Jazz knew that before the Conley trade, if true, and that this isn't coming out of the blue that these players have strong interest in playing for the Jazz. Something isn't right.

I do think the Jazz needed to wait until free agency started before the pulled the trigger on the Conley trade. It would have still been an option if they struck out, imho.

Perhaps the FO really wanted to trade away this year's draft pick in particular. I don't think they felt there was much promise in this draft and so wanted this draft pick to be part of the package. I am sure that the Grizzlies preferred the pick pre-draft as well.

If that was the case, the Jazz could have picked any player Memphis wanted, since they didn't care about the draft so much, and then trade him later as part of the deal after free agency started and they struck out.

I think we've become interesting to free agents because we have Conley. We should have planned better for the increased interest.

But really, what's the issue? All we have to do is move Exum and Bradley into capspace, and if Harris is for real, boom, we have him. That seems very doable to me. I'd bet there are a few teams who'd like to gamble on Exum and Bradley. I have my fingers crossed that management has the cap space trade ready to go, but they're just waiting to get Harris' decision on a haircut to come play in Utah. But they better have a nice list of vet mins to fill out the roster ready to go, too.

[KqWIN]

If we moved Exum+Bradley and waived Favors. Here is the money Harris would lose:

4 year max w/ Philly: $21,440,939
4 year max w/anyone else: $15,032,164
5 year max w/Philly: $65,928,928

Some expensive haircuts