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Squigglepuffin wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:
Grant Williams is the odd one out here.
The guy just isn't a good player and he has shown so repeatedly in his production.
He had 2 points and 2 rebounds yesterday while playing over 20 minutes.
Squigglepuffin wrote:Bird4Three wrote:Squigglepuffin wrote:
Grant Williams is the odd one out here.
The guy just isn't a good player and he has shown so repeatedly in his production.
He had 2 points and 2 rebounds yesterday while playing over 20 minutes.
You are completely wrong about Grant Williams. He does a lot of things like unexpected blocks and clutch plays that you’ll never see just reading a stat line. He may never be a big scorer, but he’s an intelligent and versatile player who is stuck in a tweener size. He’s like a forward version of Marcus Smart in some ways.
There are plenty of players with good BBIQ. That doesn't make him a good basketball player. If he was a better player that actually could at least rebound (which as a big he is horrific at) and even just score to some reasonable degree there would be no need for clutch plays since the score wouldn't be anywhere near as close.
People used to say Horford as a Celtic was a bad rebounder. He was. Grant Williams is even worse as a rebounder. That's undeniably true. If a power forward/center can't rebound that's a major red flag.
Just because he tries hard that doesn't mean he's a good player. Do you really think for example that if a player like Brandon Clarke (who was selected one pick earlier) was playing in a game as a Celtic the score in games would be as close? That there would be need for clutch plays? Why is that?
Squigglepuffin wrote:Bird4Three wrote:Squigglepuffin wrote:
Grant Williams is the odd one out here.
The guy just isn't a good player and he has shown so repeatedly in his production.
He had 2 points and 2 rebounds yesterday while playing over 20 minutes.
You are completely wrong about Grant Williams. He does a lot of things like unexpected blocks and clutch plays that you’ll never see just reading a stat line. He may never be a big scorer, but he’s an intelligent and versatile player who is stuck in a tweener size. He’s like a forward version of Marcus Smart in some ways.
There are plenty of players with good BBIQ. That doesn't make him a good basketball player. If he was a better player that actually could at least rebound (which as a big he is horrific at) and even just score to some reasonable degree there would be no need for clutch plays since the score wouldn't be anywhere near as close.
People used to say Horford as a Celtic was a bad rebounder. He was. Grant Williams is even worse as a rebounder. That's undeniably true. If a power forward/center can't rebound that's a major red flag.
Just because he tries hard that doesn't mean he's a good player. Do you really think for example that if a player like Brandon Clarke (who was selected one pick earlier) was playing in a game as a Celtic the score in games would be as close? That there would be need for clutch plays? Why is that?
BK_2020 wrote:Squigglepuffin wrote:Bird4Three wrote:
You are completely wrong about Grant Williams. He does a lot of things like unexpected blocks and clutch plays that you’ll never see just reading a stat line. He may never be a big scorer, but he’s an intelligent and versatile player who is stuck in a tweener size. He’s like a forward version of Marcus Smart in some ways.
There are plenty of players with good BBIQ. That doesn't make him a good basketball player. If he was a better player that actually could at least rebound (which as a big he is horrific at) and even just score to some reasonable degree there would be no need for clutch plays since the score wouldn't be anywhere near as close.
People used to say Horford as a Celtic was a bad rebounder. He was. Grant Williams is even worse as a rebounder. That's undeniably true. If a power forward/center can't rebound that's a major red flag.
Just because he tries hard that doesn't mean he's a good player. Do you really think for example that if a player like Brandon Clarke (who was selected one pick earlier) was playing in a game as a Celtic the score in games would be as close? That there would be need for clutch plays? Why is that?
Clarke is garbage rn
Squigglepuffin wrote:BK_2020 wrote:Squigglepuffin wrote:
There are plenty of players with good BBIQ. That doesn't make him a good basketball player. If he was a better player that actually could at least rebound (which as a big he is horrific at) and even just score to some reasonable degree there would be no need for clutch plays since the score wouldn't be anywhere near as close.
People used to say Horford as a Celtic was a bad rebounder. He was. Grant Williams is even worse as a rebounder. That's undeniably true. If a power forward/center can't rebound that's a major red flag.
Just because he tries hard that doesn't mean he's a good player. Do you really think for example that if a player like Brandon Clarke (who was selected one pick earlier) was playing in a game as a Celtic the score in games would be as close? That there would be need for clutch plays? Why is that?
Clarke is garbage rn
He's definitely playing much, much better than Grant Williams. It's not even close.
Squigglepuffin wrote:BK_2020 wrote:Squigglepuffin wrote:
There are plenty of players with good BBIQ. That doesn't make him a good basketball player. If he was a better player that actually could at least rebound (which as a big he is horrific at) and even just score to some reasonable degree there would be no need for clutch plays since the score wouldn't be anywhere near as close.
People used to say Horford as a Celtic was a bad rebounder. He was. Grant Williams is even worse as a rebounder. That's undeniably true. If a power forward/center can't rebound that's a major red flag.
Just because he tries hard that doesn't mean he's a good player. Do you really think for example that if a player like Brandon Clarke (who was selected one pick earlier) was playing in a game as a Celtic the score in games would be as close? That there would be need for clutch plays? Why is that?
Clarke is garbage rn
He's definitely playing much, much better than Grant Williams. It's not even close.
playa-hater wrote:Squigglepuffin wrote:Bird4Three wrote:
You are completely wrong about Grant Williams. He does a lot of things like unexpected blocks and clutch plays that you’ll never see just reading a stat line. He may never be a big scorer, but he’s an intelligent and versatile player who is stuck in a tweener size. He’s like a forward version of Marcus Smart in some ways.
There are plenty of players with good BBIQ. That doesn't make him a good basketball player. If he was a better player that actually could at least rebound (which as a big he is horrific at) and even just score to some reasonable degree there would be no need for clutch plays since the score wouldn't be anywhere near as close.
People used to say Horford as a Celtic was a bad rebounder. He was. Grant Williams is even worse as a rebounder. That's undeniably true. If a power forward/center can't rebound that's a major red flag.
Just because he tries hard that doesn't mean he's a good player. Do you really think for example that if a player like Brandon Clarke (who was selected one pick earlier) was playing in a game as a Celtic the score in games would be as close? That there would be need for clutch plays? Why is that?
well said and I agree.
Shak_Celts wrote:How is Bane so short? All that video I watched on him and he never once looked THAT short to me. They say 6'6 and I don't know how, he looks all of 6'3 out there!
Shak_Celts wrote:How is Bane so short? All that video I watched on him and he never once looked THAT short to me. They say 6'6 and I don't know how, he looks all of 6'3 out there!
GoCeltics123 wrote:
This is art
He passed up the last shot for a Maxey miss and L, too
playa-hater wrote:GoCeltics123 wrote:
This is art
He passed up the last shot for a Maxey miss and L, too
So hard to figure this man's true value. On one hand I declared him the weakest mental midget ever. Yet he is a very good versatile defender who is more than happy and capable to pass, which is more than 90% of the NBA I think.
I would do Kemba + Semi + Theis + Grant Williams + a 1st. Yeah I know, no chance that would happen.
reload141 wrote:playa-hater wrote:GoCeltics123 wrote:
This is art
He passed up the last shot for a Maxey miss and L, too
So hard to figure this man's true value. On one hand I declared him the weakest mental midget ever. Yet he is a very good versatile defender who is more than happy and capable to pass, which is more than 90% of the NBA I think.
I would do Kemba + Semi + Theis + Grant Williams + a 1st. Yeah I know, no chance that would happen.
He's a 6"10 Rajon Rondo.
Except Rajon raises his game in the playoffs.
playa-hater wrote:Triple7 wrote:Damn Brogdon is just so good for a point guard. Solid and steady. Myles Turner is probably the best shot blocker this season. Definitely alters shots inside. Unlike our good for nothing fake bigs Theis and TT. Lol
Imagine that Boston could have actually had both players. Instead of Kemba for 185 Mil, Brogdon for 100?
M Turner for GH.
That could be a title right there.
