2024 NBA Draft Thread

[FarBeyondDriven]

Not sure if posted yet but Sarr injured his hip and will be out for up to three weeks.

https://thewest.com.au/sport/perth-wildcats/perth-wildcat-alex-sarr-and-potential-as-nba-number-one-pick-set-to-spend-time-on-the-sidelines-with-injury--c-13132568

EDIT - seems to be a paywall:

Perth Wildcat Alex Sarr and potential NBA number one pick set to spend time on the sidelines with injury

Craig O'Donoghue
The West Australian
Sat, 6 January 2024 10:13AM

Perth Wildcats star and potential NBA number one draft Alex Sarr has been ruled out for up to three weeks after injuring his hip after slipping on the court in the club's win over Adelaide.

Sarr crashed to the ground during the first quarter of the clash against the 36ers on December 28. He played out the game and was still involved in the contest in the last quarter, finishing the night with 12 points and two rebounds from 13 minutes on the court.

But in a development which will send shudders through NBA executives, scans revealed a hip strain and he will be unavailable for up to the next three weeks.

That would see him ruled out of Sunday’s match against New Zealand Breakers in Auckland and he would then miss the Wildcats’ return to RAC Arena in an open air clash against South East Melbourne Phoenix on January 13.

He would also be in doubt for matches against Brisbane and Sydney on January 19 and 21.

The Wildcats are currently flying in transit to New Zealand but are unlikely to take any risks with the injury given his current ranking among NBA draft prospects. Experts have him being selected as the number one pick in the draft.

Questions had already been asked about whether Sarr would see out the season given the risk of injury after proving his worth to NBA scouts. Both LaMelo Ball and Josh Giddey failed to complete their NBL seasons as Next Stars once they suffered injuries.

Last month, Sarr said he intended to finish the NBL season.

"Right now we are winning and my goal is to make the play-offs and get the furthest I can," Sarr said.

“Even outside of the draft, it’s cool. I’m having fun out there and competing for something. It’s the first time in my life where I’m part of a league where I’m really trying to win something at the end.

“Outside of anything happening next year, I’m having fun playing every night here.”

The Wildcats will also be without veteran guard Corey Webster for the clash against the Breakers. He hasn’t played since December 15 due to an ankle injury and hasn’t recovered in time.

damn, that sucks. Might as well shut it down at this point and prep for the draft.

[FarBeyondDriven]

obvious difference between Topic and Sheppard is about 3-4 inches, a bigger frame, and the fact that Topic can run an offense and play PG whereas Sheppard is more of a combo guard and can't. But yeah, besides that...no difference

Yeah, let's completely ignore the massive edge Sheppard has as a shooter and also a fairly significant edge he has a defender

I wouldn't really say Topic has a bigger frame either. Longer wingspan, yes. But in terms of bulk/strength/physique, I don't know if there's that much difference there.

Topic is quicker off the dribble, better at pressuring the rim. Topic is a little bit younger too.

There's a ton of differences between them. They're really not that similar as prospects, other than the color of their skin and both being guards.

With that said, it's worth debating which is the better prospect. They're currently just 1 spot away from each other on my big board (Topic at 5, Sheppard at 6).

Sheppard was being hunted all night against a crafty PG promising things to come when he goes against NBA guards. He's not a good defender either lmao. He's very smart and opportunistic and he's adequate at the NCAA level though. #6 on your Big Board?

[FarBeyondDriven]

still waiting on that definition of "needle mover"

still waiting. I'm assuming none will be given because then you're stuck having to actually defend your takes in the future? Can't be pigeoned-holed now can we? Typical

A Needle Mover is a player you draft or acquire and makes you want to go into win-now move or, at the very least, build around. A player who affects a franchices future moving forward.

Jalen Green wasn't a needle mover. Anthony Edwards moved the needle enough for Minnesota to go All-In with a trade following his 2nd season.

but most of you all thought Jalen Green was a needle mover a full year before the draft, all that freshmen season and well after the draft. And if I recall, most didn't think Edwards was a needle mover and thought that the 2020 draft class weak. Which is my point, you all just don't seem to have a firm grasp of this hobby of ours. You're very bad at this

btw I didn't ask you

[FarBeyondDriven]

Is the entire point of some people here just to lump people together and tell them they are wrong?

Maybe we should just all ignore the trolls [Big J, JMac and FarBeyondComprehension] and talk about the prospects.

you're literally the definition of a troll. Changing a user name trying to be clever. How are you so dumb that this is lost on you?

[FarBeyondDriven]

still waiting on that definition of "needle mover"

still waiting. I'm assuming none will be given because then you're stuck having to actually defend your takes in the future? Can't be pigeoned-holed now can we? Typical

i dont have time to waste on such stupid questions and convos.

translation, I can't articulate my position because then when I'm inevitably proven wrong I can be called out on it. Gotcha. As predicted

[FarBeyondDriven]

The "debate" between Topic and Sheppard is why this draft is so bad in a nutshell. We're splitting hairs over potential rotation guys. Literally none of these guys profile as stars. I'm sure there will be a few, but they are the needles in this haystack of crap.

Ya, its a really bad draft. What gross timing for my Blazers to rebuild.

It really isn't that bad of a draft.

It's only a "weak draft" in that there are no major superstars that are apparent. But anyone who has studied this draft knows there are potential All Stars to be found all over. I think teams like the Blazers, Spurs, Pistons, and Grizzlies can really set their futures in stone with this draft, if they acquire the right players.

It reminds me of the 2005 and 2006 Drafts honestly (also considered weak at the time).

Like those drafts, I'm willing to bet the best player will be found at #5-12 range and another All-Star will be found in the range the Warriors pick is in (#10-20).

Sarr is probably Bargnani where he looks like the latest thing (Wemby) but doesn't live up to the hype, someone like Cody Williams or Nikola Topic is the Roy/CP3, there's an Aldridge/Deron Williams somewhere in the Top 10 (imo, Castle). Either Cody Williams or Risacher is the Granger/Lowry.

Holland is the Rudy Gay.

Meanwhile, a big man like Missi or Clingan may end up being the Andrew Bynum or Paul Millsap of the draft where they slip a bit but are impactful big men. I think both are going to be impactful.

Don't want to make too direct of an analogy but it looks like a very normal draft to me.

notice how the excuses are already being made in case they're proven wrong?

"Of course there could be All-Stars. But nobody knows who they are right now. That means it's a bad draft"

this is who we're dealing with. Notice how he's leaving himself an out? Well, because NOBODY knew I can't be expected to know!!! You can't debate in good faith with people like this. I applaud the effort but you'll quickly learn this if you continue

"When the best player in this class would go no better than #4 or #5 in last year's class, it's a bad class"

he doesn't even know who the best player in this draft class is but is certain they would only go 4th or 5th. Mind you, this has been his opinion for about a year now. Before anyone stepped foot on a college campus and played games. We're now just halfway through the season. Two full months away from the Tournament which can be the most important stage for these prospects but he's already made up his mind. Another gem you can't reason with.

"But in terms of pure talent, its not a good draft. For example, if this was the class Shadeon Sharpe was in rather than 2022 - even coming off a year of not playing at Kentucky I think he would be the top prospect by a good margin. That says a bit about the high end talent of this years class"

see, because he believes Sharpe would be #1 then it universally "says a bit about the high end talent of this year's class". No, it doesn't. Because Sharpe, had he gone to college might have actually gone in the top 3. There were people that had him #1 despite not playing because he's a physical specimen with a pretty jumper. So what if a great prospect from past drafts MIGHT go #1 in this year's draft? Next thing you'll tell me that Wembanyam, Zion, Banchero, Chet and Jabari would go first too?!! And? They'd go first in many drafts but that doesn't mean they're weak draft classes

"The 2013 draft is the most applicable comparison for this draft IMO... most likely without the outlier of a once in a generation development of a MVP caliber player. So because of Giannis, I actually think this one is worse.

it was days ago somebody freaked out when I mentioned how people have been saying this is a historically bad draft and one of the worst, saying I had no proof and I was making it up? Well, there you go. 2013 is widely considered among the worst drafts of all-time and 2024, to this poster, is even worse!! Guess I wasn't making **** up after all!

"Take the 2019 Draft. It looks god awful. And if you remove Zion, Ja, and maybe Garland who were all taken in the top 4, there are no stars outside of that."

yeah, and most of you thought it was a great draft class BECAUSE of the high end talent because that means so much to you. Turns out you were wrong per usual. Notice a pattern? If your take is the opposite of theirs you're most likely going to be proven right

"and outlier development doesn't count towards pre draft analysis tbh"

this one is the very best hedge yet. Don't expect me or anyone else to predict when high ceiling guys hit!!! It's a complete mystery!!!!! Well, some of us can actually see translatable skills and physical traits even if they're projects. Sorry you can't. Nice try though. If someone with high upside we are excited about and are part of the reason why we don't feel the class is weak hit, it means we were right and you were wrong because you should have recognized that potential.

[FarBeyondDriven]

The 2013 draft is the most applicable comparison for this draft IMO... most likely without the outlier of a once in a generation development of a MVP caliber player.

So because of Giannis, I actually think this one is worse.

and outlier development doesn't count towards pre draft analysis tbh...NO ONE saw Giannis coming. the ones that liked him thought he'd develop into a nice defender and maybe a guy that can run the court but anyone told you he'd be anywhere near where he is now they are lying.

Giannis developing the way he did doesn't change analysis of 2013 draft...you can't calculate for outlier development...not even NBA teams.

Agreed. That is what I was trying to say.

The '24 draft will be viewed (pre-draft) much like the '13 draft was.

For those that like to 'look back' and say the '13 draft wasn't bad because it produced an MVP caliber player and # All-stars, well I anticipate it to have results like the '13 draft (just without the MVP).

Just revisiting it, I count (and understanding health/injuries plays a part):

* 3 - undrafted players who had good/decent careers (Covington, Seth Curry, Dedmon)
* 4 - 2nd rounders who stuck around for a bit and had some contribution (Ennis, Neto, Muscala, Crabbe)
* 10 - 1st rounders who stuck around for a bit and had some contribution (Roberson, Bullock, Hill, Snell, Burke, McLemore, Noel, Len, Zeller, Bennett)
* 7 - 1st rounders who were starter quality for a reasonable portion of their career (Hardaway, Plumlee, Dieng, Schroder, Olynyk, Caldwell-Pope, Porter)
* 5 - 1st rounders who were SOLID starters for the majority of their career (Adams, McCollum, Oladipo, Gobert, Giannis)
* 2 - All Stars (Gobert, Giannis)

So you get 5/60 as solid starters => ~8%
Fringe starters or better => 14/60 => ~25%
Never making a substantial impact => 31/60 => ~50%

I'm not sure I've heard too many people claiming 2013 "wasn't bad" but I appreciate the effort into making a high quality post unlike the trolls. The 2013 class is historically bad. It only has three all-stars. It has very poor depth and while it has some starters and contributors it doesn't have many #2 through #4 types. So you're saying that take out Giannis and that's what 2024 is? If you do take out Giannis then you're left with just two all-stars (one of which is a one-time all-star in Oladipo that never sniffed a second, the other a defensive specialist in Gobert) and a slew of role players. That's how bad you think the 2024 class is?

I appreciate you defining it unlike so many of the trolls on here. I don't see how anyone could be so strongly of that opinion in January, months before March Madness, the NBA combine, measurements and workouts but you do you. I'm not ready to condemn the class until I have as much information as possible. And that information will continue to pour in until draft night. But again, everyone evaluates differently apparently. Right now I'm leaning towards it being a normal draft like TheDraftGuy said

[Hal14]

He's not a good defender either lmao. #6 on your Big Board?

Which is my point, you all just don't seem to have a firm grasp of this hobby of ours. You're very bad at this

btw I didn't ask you

you're literally the definition of a troll. Changing a user name trying to be clever. How are you so dumb that this is lost on you?

translation, I can't articulate my position because then when I'm inevitably proven wrong I can be called out on it. Gotcha. As predicted

notice how the excuses are already being made in case they're proven wrong?

this is who we're dealing with. Notice how he's leaving himself an out? Well, because NOBODY knew I can't be expected to know!!! You can't debate in good faith with people like this. I applaud the effort but you'll quickly learn this if you continue

2013 is widely considered among the worst drafts of all-time and 2024, to this poster, is even worse!! Guess I wasn't making **** up after all!

Please, I urge you. STOP posting here. Clearly you can't engage in mature, respectful discussion. All you do is ridicule others and talk down to them if they express a different opinion than yours.

Please, stop posting here and grow up.

Sincerely,
Every other poster on here

[tester551]

I'm not sure I've heard too many people claiming 2013 "wasn't bad" but I appreciate the effort into making a high quality post unlike the trolls. The 2013 class is historically bad. It only has three all-stars. It has very poor depth and while it has some starters and contributors it doesn't have many #2 through #4 types. So you're saying that take out Giannis and that's what 2024 is? If you do take out Giannis then you're left with just two all-stars (one of which is a one-time all-star in Oladipo that never sniffed a second, the other a defensive specialist in Gobert) and a slew of role players. That's how bad you think the 2024 class is?

I appreciate you defining it unlike so many of the trolls on here. I don't see how anyone could be so strongly of that opinion in January, months before March Madness, the NBA combine, measurements and workouts but you do you. I'm not ready to condemn the class until I have as much information as possible. And that information will continue to pour in until draft night. But again, everyone evaluates differently apparently. Right now I'm leaning towards it being a normal draft like TheDraftGuy said

Yes - right now I think this draft class will be on par with that 2013 draft.
Obviously things can change with additional information (all the way up to draft night), but based on the information currently available - it looks like 2013 to me.

[BigGargamel]

I don't get why this FarBeyondDriven guy is so hostile. We are all just fans posting on a message board. None of us are scouts. Calm down my dude. You obviously seem to be passionate and knowledgeable, which is awesome, but spending half of your posts bragging about how great you are and how dumb everyone else is, and hurling insults...no one is going to want to debate with you. What's the point of being that way? You must be young. I was that way 20 years ago. Now I'm just a 43 year old man who comes to the only decent message board in existence to talk about stuff I enjoy. You should just relax and do the same.

[babyjax13]

I've put him on ignore and hilariously like the last two pages just have post after post saying:

"FarBeyondDriven, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Display this post."

Go into his profile and just click "add foe" and you won't have to see the posts anymore. Honestly it is just bizarre behavior and I'm over interacting w/him.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I've put him on ignore and hilariously like the last two pages just have post after post saying:

"FarBeyondDriven, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Display this post."

Go into his profile and just click "add foe" and you won't have to see the posts anymore. Honestly it is just bizarre behavior and I'm over interacting w/him.

stunning and brave. Nothing says courage of your convictions like not being able to defend your positions and running away from debate like a coward. Good riddance. Full disclosure, I had a slew of you on ignore for a couple of days but realized what an absolute beta that would make me so stopped doing it.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I don't get why this FarBeyondDriven guy is so hostile. We are all just fans posting on a message board. None of us are scouts. Calm down my dude. You obviously seem to be passionate and knowledgeable, which is awesome, but spending half of your posts bragging about how great you are and how dumb everyone else is, and hurling insults...no one is going to want to debate with you. What's the point of being that way? You must be young. I was that way 20 years ago. Now I'm just a 43 year old man who comes to the only decent message board in existence to talk about stuff I enjoy. You should just relax and do the same.

My supposed hostility is in response to smarmy bullies that have seemingly picked fights with multiple posters, including against each other, for years. They don't deserve your sympathy. They go out of their way to belittle posters they disagree with, name-call, troll and are just all around awful contributors a lot of the time. They're just getting back what they give. There's numerous examples of this if you did just a modicum of research into it. Sorry I hurt your buddies' feelings so badly you felt the need to white knight for them.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I'm not sure I've heard too many people claiming 2013 "wasn't bad" but I appreciate the effort into making a high quality post unlike the trolls. The 2013 class is historically bad. It only has three all-stars. It has very poor depth and while it has some starters and contributors it doesn't have many #2 through #4 types. So you're saying that take out Giannis and that's what 2024 is? If you do take out Giannis then you're left with just two all-stars (one of which is a one-time all-star in Oladipo that never sniffed a second, the other a defensive specialist in Gobert) and a slew of role players. That's how bad you think the 2024 class is?

I appreciate you defining it unlike so many of the trolls on here. I don't see how anyone could be so strongly of that opinion in January, months before March Madness, the NBA combine, measurements and workouts but you do you. I'm not ready to condemn the class until I have as much information as possible. And that information will continue to pour in until draft night. But again, everyone evaluates differently apparently. Right now I'm leaning towards it being a normal draft like TheDraftGuy said

Yes - right now I think this draft class will be on par with that 2013 draft.
Obviously things can change with additional information (all the way up to draft night), but based on the information currently available - it looks like 2013 to me.

not really on par though because you said it's similar AFTER you take out the all-nba Giannis. But I get the sentiment. It's really bad in your eyes. I hope for my reputation you're wrong

[FarBeyondDriven]

He's not a good defender either lmao. #6 on your Big Board?

Which is my point, you all just don't seem to have a firm grasp of this hobby of ours. You're very bad at this

btw I didn't ask you

you're literally the definition of a troll. Changing a user name trying to be clever. How are you so dumb that this is lost on you?

translation, I can't articulate my position because then when I'm inevitably proven wrong I can be called out on it. Gotcha. As predicted

notice how the excuses are already being made in case they're proven wrong?

this is who we're dealing with. Notice how he's leaving himself an out? Well, because NOBODY knew I can't be expected to know!!! You can't debate in good faith with people like this. I applaud the effort but you'll quickly learn this if you continue

2013 is widely considered among the worst drafts of all-time and 2024, to this poster, is even worse!! Guess I wasn't making **** up after all!

Please, I urge you. STOP posting here. Clearly you can't engage in mature, respectful discussion. All you do is ridicule others and talk down to them if they express a different opinion than yours.

Please, stop posting here and grow up.

Sincerely,
Every other poster on here

gonna cry? You're seriously one of the group of posters that is terrible to so many others and you're crying about ME being immature? You're just mad that someone is defending himself and others.

some smarmy and combative posts full of attitude from our most mature poster Hal

1) "maybe you just haven't watched him that much"

a smarmy way to suggest that the only possible reason someone could disagree with you is because they haven't watched as much film.

2) "I watched some film, pulled some stats and commented on them in order to contribute some meaningful insight to the discussion. You should try it."

not even at me. At one of the usuals I'm so fond of

3) "So you didn't watch the Weaver video, which I just pointed out, was right above your post..

Ok, here it is again so it seems like you're having trouble following along."

to a different member of the usuals lmao. Such eloquence and not combative at all!!!

4) "Nobody said that. "

dismissive eyeroll. From Hal? But...that's not mature!!

5) "I could go on, but really not worth it to address points that are so off the mark that it's laughable."

why so nasty?

6) "Yeah, let's ignore what these prospects actually do on the court.

Instead, let's base our evaluations on how good the commentators are who broadcast the games when a particular prospect is playing, like you did with the Thompson twins "

man, what did Evan do to you to make you so nasty towards him?

7) You gotta actually watch them play for more than 5 minutes.

Just looking at a stat sheet or watching for 5 mins is lazy.

more suggestions that others' opinions aren't quite up to Hal's standards

8) "He does everything well except shoot from the perimeter. It doesn't sound like you've watched him play this season so not going to bother engaging further on this."

more of the same.

This is just a shallow dive into Hal specifically. I promise you "the usuals" all have similar if not worse examples. Hal is awful but he's tame in comparison to most of the other "usuals" that constantly go after people. Trolling, mocking, demeaning, belittling and condescending. If you're triggered by me, well...I learned it by watching you...I learned it by watching you!!

edit - even this very post I'm responding to is pure bullying. You're singling me out, asking me to STOP posting! You're speaking for the entire board. Ironic

[FarBeyondDriven]

If it's not, please let me know of a better one.

There’s been many who call the 2024 draft class weak based on its perceived (maybe actual) lack of high-end college freshmen which is a departure for NBA draft classes if it’s accurate. It’s my opinion that this is made up for with arguably the best international class we’ve ever seen.

Here’s the guys I feel will be drafted, mostly in the first 40-50 picks. I know many of you pay attention to these guys but it’s hard to get much film on them or watch games for some. So I thought I’d provide some highlights and put them all in one place.

These are men's leagues and they don’t cater to young players and often-times resent them because a) they’re NBA talents b) they’ll be gone in 1-2 years while everyone else is trying to build chemistry, improve the team and make a living doing so. So watching box scores provides almost zero actual insight into their NBA prospects.

These aren’t your usual international prospects. I’m not just listing a bunch of names like people will undoubtedly accuse me of. They’re all actual NBA talents that won’t be relegated to deep bench roles or sent down to the G-League like you see from so many in the past.

*ages are on draft night

** NBA comparisons based on size and athleticism profile plus playstyle

Alex Sarr - 19 y/o 7’1” center that can score on all three levels, block shots and effectively defend the perimeter on switches.

NBA comparison = Evan Mobley

Watch on YouTube

Zaccharie Risacher - 19 y/o 6’9” wing that is long and has some spring to his step. He’s a lights out shooter at around 45% from three

NBA comparison = Ginobili/Stojakovic

Watch on YouTube

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Tidjane Salaun - 18 y/o 6’10” wing. Great size and athleticism with a frame to easily add more muscle. Nice looking stroke from three. Among the highest upside in the draft

NBA comparison = MPJ

Watch on YouTube

Nikola Topic - 18 y/o 6’6” PG. Elite passer and finisher. Great size for a PG. Inconsistent shooter from three. Very crafty and aggressive. Quick hands and high BBIQ gets him steals and blocks but not expected to be a plus defender.

NBA comparison = Nash/Giddey

Watch on YouTube

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Bobi Klintman - 21 y/o 6’9” 3 and D wing. He’s very athletic, long and while he’s raw, he’s been getting better each season. High potential.

NBA comparison = Jaylen Johnson

Watch on YouTube

Melvin Ajinca - 19 y/o 6’7” wing that does a little bit of everything. Nice athlete, good looking stroke, smart and has a high motor

NBA comparison = Kelly Oubre

Watch on YouTube

Izan Almansa - 19 y/o 6’10” PF/C with a high BBIQ but limited athleticism that prevents him from ever being an elite shot blocker but he’s a capable passer and PnR partner

NBA comparison = Miles Plumlee

Watch on YouTube

Adem Bona - 21 y/o 6’9” C with good shot blocking, ability to defend the perimeter on switches, good passer and finisher with touch. Some potential for outside shooting

NBA comparison = Onyeka Okongwu

Watch on YouTube

Zacharie Perrin - 6’9” 19 y/o PF that can do it all. Good passer, with solid handle, good rebounder, high BBIQ and motor. Very active. Can play on or off-ball and in the PnR. Maybe the most underrated prospect in the draft.

NBA comparison = Kyle Kuzma

Watch on YouTube

Juan Nunez - 20 y/o 6’3” PG with high BBIQ, floor general with excellent passing and potential as a shooter

NBA comparison = Payton Pritchard

Watch on YouTube

Baye Ndongo - 21 y/o 6’9” PF with a two-way skillset allowing him to be a shot blocker and perimeter defender while also growing as a scorer with some touch on his shots and rim running in the PnR.

NBA comparison = Jaren Jackson Jr.

Watch on YouTube

Yves Missi - 20 y/o 6’11” C with great mobility around the basket. Shot blocker and rebounder with an improving offensive game. High upside

NBA comparison = Clint Capela

Watch on YouTube

Zvonimir Ivisic - 20 y/o 7’2” PF that is extremely long and active around the basket blocking shots and dunking. Also has potential as a shooter. Needs to get healthy and pack on some lbs but he’s very intriguing

NBA comparison = Porzingis/Pokusevski

Watch on YouTube

Ajay Mitchell - 21 y/o 6’4” PG that is highly skilled as a scorer and passer. Don’t be surprised if he’s the next 2nd round pick starting games at some point

NBA comparison = Fox

Watch on YouTube

Hansen Yang - 18 y/o 7’ C has high upside but I’m not sure he’s eligible. If he is, he has potential to be drafted as he’s very skilled as a passer, has post moves and can block shots. Not a great athlete but is growing into his body

NBA comparison = Sengun

Watch on YouTube

Johnny Furphy - 19 y/o 6'7" SF that can shoot with high BBIQ.

NBA comparison = Gordon Hayward

Watch on YouTube

Alex Toohey - 20 y/o 6'8" SF with excellent all-around game and high BBIQ

NBA comparison = Kyle Anderson

Watch on YouTube

Lachlan Olbrich - 20 y/o 6'10" PF that can score on all three levels

NBA comparison = Lauri Markkanen

Watch on YouTube

[Duke4life831]

Link to the warning for everyone to see. Stay on topic and zero leniency from here on out in this tread for any kind of personal attacks

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=110559625#p110559625

[shangrila]

Now that the housekeeping is out of the way...

So there's a handful of small guards generally mocked at the end of the 1st and into the 2nd right now. The Boswells, Mintzes, Koleks, etc.

If you had to pick one of them to make it in the league, who would it be and why?

[Colbinii]

Now that the housekeeping is out of the way...

So there's a handful of small guards generally mocked at the end of the 1st and into the 2nd right now. The Boswells, Mintzes, Koleks, etc.

If you had to pick one of them to make it in the league, who would it be and why?

Judah Mintz (21 on Draft Day) - I really like his upside as a Microwave scorer off the bench.
Kylan Boswell (19 on Draft Day) - Youngest of the bunch by a significant margin, probably the highest upside in theory but his inability to get to the free throw line is a major red flag for me and smaller guard prospects. Best shooter of the bunch as well.
Tyler Kolek (23 on Draft Day) - He is so much older that it's hard to buy into him as a serious threat as a prospect, though he could come in right away and eat up 2nd unit minutes. I like him on a weaker team where he can direct and orchestrate and provide spacing for younger stars.
Tamin Lipsey (21 on Draft Day or right after--late June B-Day) - My Favorite of the group at the moment. Best defender in my eyes and while short has a strong frame and lower-body.

I go for Lipsey but think Boswell has the most intrigue and mystique about him while Mintz has the clearest path to having a defined role in the NBA.

[BlazersBroncos]

Boswell has so much to like and then you see his FTar and its just a huge, huge red flag IMO. Enough to drop him significantly IMO.