2019 Draft Discussion

[TheKingofSting]

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Good reading material for anyone with plenty of time on their hands in the next few days.

I guess noody had time or cared to check it out or was too busy taking up pages arguing and calling each other names.

Brandon Clarke - NBA COMP - Shawn Marion, Paul Millsap, hints of Blake Griffin.
Goga Bitadze - NBA COMP - Jusuf Nurkić with better ball skills. Proto Pau.
Jaxson Hayes - NBA COMP - A proto-Brow. Willie Cauley-Stein with good habits and room to grow.
P. J. Washington - NBA COMP - Moe Harkless / Younger Luol Deng.
Bol Bol - NBA COMP - Taller Porzingis.
Kevin Porter Jr. - NBA COMP - Doesn't have one.
Nickeil Alexander-Walker - NBA COMP - Doesn't have one. Classic big college guard, does a little bit of everything offensively. Primarily a shooter / slasher but showed some solid technique as a distributor after Tech's PG and assists leader, Justin Robinson went down with an injury.
Doesn't profile to be anything close to a star but could very easily be a dependable third guard for a playoff team, which is a hard thing to find in any draft, let alone one this weak.
Nassir Little - NBA COMP - Doesn't have one. A true tweener forward, an exceptionally rare thing to find in today's game. Has the power / strength and overall finishing ability of a small big man but the build of a wing. Unfortunately lacks wing skills in a major way. Was disturbingly slow in the combine agility tests and has yet to shoot consistently off dribble (or even dribble). Capable rebounder when he has space to utilize his good standing vert. Lack of burst and anticipation makes him truly a terrible team defender at this stage. Could end up being a Kenneth Faried type unless he loses a lot of weight and regains some of the burst he seemed to have in high school. Lots of holes as a prospect but does have physical attributes that other prospects do not.
Rui Hachimura - NBA COMP - Doesn't have one. Big, strong, long frame. Very toolsy. Has developed well from a skinny kid who spoke no English three years ago. Good pullup shooter from 16-18 feet. Keeps his elbow tight. Not much of a post scorer but very effective flashing into the paint and in transition. Capable of big time finishes on the move. Decent rebounder for his position. One of the least instinctive passers in this class. A play finisher who should not be given any real responsibility as a decision maker unless that decision is to dunk in the open court. A truly bad defender in every way. Doesn't block many shots, can't switch on the perimeter, doesn't read or diagnose plays at all. More than anything else this limits his potential.

[BlackOutBuzz]

I'm still fully expecting to end up with Cam Reddish, and I'm truly worried about it. I keep thinking Monk/Vonleh. I remember seeing those guys mocked at #4, 5, 6 and we end up with them at our typical 10-12 spot.

Buddy, Cam Reddish went to Duke. You have nothing to worry about. If we won the lottery I’d fully expect Coby White to be the pick.

This is such a lazy narrative that Jordan always finds ways to draft UNC players. Sure we took May and Felton in 05 and Jordan had nothing to do with that. Since then what UNC players have we drafted? Brandon Wright (who was instantly traded)? PJ Hairston (who was considered a great value pick where we got him)? That's all I can think of.

Yeah it's very tired, and especially stupid since it's not even the well/college they visit most often.

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[amcoolio]

I read it King. Just didn’t post. I still like PJ over Clarke. I also like Goga but don’t know how we acquire him unless we just draft him at 12. Possible Goga goes at 14 to Boston.

[BigSlam]

I guess noody had time or cared to check it out or was too busy taking up pages arguing and calling each other names.

Sorry - I did look at it.

It was a good read, although the details for each prospects profile dropped off significantly the further down it went.


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[Rich4114]

We need skilled players. Guys who can create, handle, pass and shoot. I’m done with broken shot guys who have high motors. Or tall white sides who shoot lights out in a gym with nobody guarding them. Swing for the fences but swing on someone who comes with some natural skill. I don’t want anyone who needs to be reprogrammed to make jump shots.

[powerforward]

here is a solid video on goga

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[Snidely FC]

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Goga says would be an honor to play for the Hornets. Last time we had a guy come to Charlotte workout and say he wanted to play here was Malcolm Brogdon

[yosemiteben]

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Goga says would be an honor to play for the Hornets. Last time we had a guy come to Charlotte workout and say he wanted to play here was Malcolm Brogdon

I think Donovan Mitchell is also in that club.

[Chapelchilla]

I am starting to think we ought to just take Goga at 12. We will probably lose Frank due to our misusing him and this guy could be a better defending, more post oriented replacement. I think we can just play bacon, monk, Batum and dudes from the D league at 2 for a year if we have to, centers that can shoot, move and defend are a rarer and more expensive asset.

[TheKingofSting]

I read it King. Just didn’t post. I still like PJ over Clarke. I also like Goga but don’t know how we acquire him unless we just draft him at 12. Possible Goga goes at 14 to Boston.

Do we have to buyout his contract or can he play here next season just by us drafting him? I'm warming up to the idea of him at #12 if he can come and we can plug and play him right away.

[Diop]

here is a solid video on goga

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yeah I think Goga is my favourite for this draft. He looked like a manly version of what we hoped Kaminsky would be in this video.

[Diop]

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Goga says would be an honor to play for the Hornets. Last time we had a guy come to Charlotte workout and say he wanted to play here was Malcolm Brogdon

so we're trading the pick for Belinelli again?

[316Hornets]

I'm thinking we should target that #4 pick the Pelicans are dangling.

[JMAC3]

I am a huge sports junkie and I was testing a theory about the value of centers vs point guards. In my mind I saw it as the same in football how running backs are often easier to find in the later rounds vs qbs.

What I did was take all centers who started at least 25 games this season and compared how many were taken in the top 10 vs how many were taken past pick 22.
it is nearly the same, on both accounts it was just over 20 players.

Then I did the same thing with point guards and nearly double the amount of point guards are taken in top 10 vs players selected after pick 22. The totals were 22 in top 10 and only 9 after the top 10.

I haven’t completed data for other positons but it looks like SG is easy to find value later.

Small forward is about even, but with most higher level stars found in top 10.

And I haven’t started pf yet.

Basically all I am saying is that we have nearly the same percentage chance of finding a starting center at 36 as we do at 12 and to me that is basically a wasted opportunity.

High picks should be used on point guards and elite wing players based off the percentages.





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[UNCNYC]

I am a huge sports junkie and I was testing a theory about the value of centers vs point guards. In my mind I saw it as the same in football how running backs are often easier to find in the later rounds vs qbs.

What I did was take all centers who started at least 25 games this season and compared how many were taken in the top 10 vs how many were taken past pick 22.
it is nearly the same, on both accounts it was just over 20 players.

Then I did the same thing with point guards and nearly double the amount of point guards are taken in top 10 vs players selected after pick 22. The totals were 22 in top 10 and only 9 after the top 10.

I haven’t completed data for other positons but it looks like SG is easy to find value later.

Small forward is about even, but with most higher level stars found in top 10.

And I haven’t started pf yet.

Basically all I am saying is that we have nearly the same percentage chance of finding a starting center at 36 as we do at 12 and to me that is basically a wasted opportunity.

High picks should be used on point guards and elite wing players based off the percentages.





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Thanks for the great research. Thats the reason why I haven't considered any big men in a while. I think COOK would be perfect at #36 or #51 for us. That's also why I am considering taking NAW with the #12 pick because of how hard it is to find a PG and to have one with his size and skillset seems like a must take but I am still not certain because I really like BJ Taylor. He just had a bit too many injuries which makes me hesitant.

If Zagars was still in the draft I would not have taken NAW. I would have went #12-Samanic #36-Zagars #51-Cook tho

[TheKingofSting]

The Charlotte Hornets are one of two teams that have never paid the tax. Owner Michael Jordan has made it a priority to avoid it during his tenure.

But with the remnants of a spending spree from 2016 still on the books, re-signing Kemba Walker almost certainly would push the Hornets there for at least the 2019-20 season.

For weeks, it hasn't just been a question of whether they'd offer Walker a five-year max -- but would they make it a supermax deal and pay $221 million after he made the All-NBA team? If Walker were to sign for a max elsewhere, it would mean leaving $80 million versus the supermax.

Everyone is saying the right things. Walker has said the Hornets are his priority and hinted he'd take less than the supermax to stay if it helped build the team. Hornets general manager Mitch Kupchak left open the possibility of paying the luxury tax in comments last week and even hinted he wanted to move up from the No. 12 pick.

But teams aren't just watching whether the Hornets pay Walker -- they're also watching that draft pick. That asset is perhaps the most valuable and last option to attach to a player to offload salary before Walker hits free agency. If avoiding the tax is truly a mandate and keeping Walker truly a priority, the pick could be on the move on or before draft night.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26993250/the-latest-intel-loaded-free-agent-market


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[countryboi]

The Charlotte Hornets are one of two teams that have never paid the tax. Owner Michael Jordan has made it a priority to avoid it during his tenure.

But with the remnants of a spending spree from 2016 still on the books, re-signing Kemba Walker almost certainly would push the Hornets there for at least the 2019-20 season.

For weeks, it hasn't just been a question of whether they'd offer Walker a five-year max -- but would they make it a supermax deal and pay $221 million after he made the All-NBA team? If Walker were to sign for a max elsewhere, it would mean leaving $80 million versus the supermax.

Everyone is saying the right things. Walker has said the Hornets are his priority and hinted he'd take less than the supermax to stay if it helped build the team. Hornets general manager Mitch Kupchak left open the possibility of paying the luxury tax in comments last week and even hinted he wanted to move up from the No. 12 pick.

But teams aren't just watching whether the Hornets pay Walker -- they're also watching that draft pick. That asset is perhaps the most valuable and last option to attach to a player to offload salary before Walker hits free agency. If avoiding the tax is truly a mandate and keeping Walker truly a priority, the pick could be on the move on or before draft night.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26993250/the-latest-intel-loaded-free-agent-market


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bull we keeping that pick we even moving trying to move up

[vexco]

There's just not very many players around our range that I'd really dislike us taking. Little is about the only one.

[gundysmullet]

I'm thinking we should target that #4 pick the Pelicans are dangling.

A trade has to be accepted by both parties involved to complete said trade. What do the hornets have to offer that would make the pelicans want to trade it for number four?

[cornchip]

here is a solid video on goga

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Good find. Offensively he has lots of potential. Very decisive.

Defensively however...woof. Even when he plays back he gets blown by. He makes up for them in the highlights but even then a lot of those blocks are fouls against above the rim and craftier players.

If he's there at 36, he's a good get. No way at 12 though imo.