Around the NBA part 4

[Quick Kick]

Never come back plz

[rockmanslim]

Watch the video....text book iso.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBdFj3iPEvA[/youtube]

To me that was a grey area play, sort of iso, but sort of PnR, too. Maybe you could say it was a PnR immediately followed by an iso, but the PnR did help create a half-step advantage on the iso, so grey area for me.

[AllanHoustonFan]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/226069/Rose-Wont-Return-Until-Hes-110-Percent-Healthy

So much for the whole "Lin said he's not coming back because he's 85% omg wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" obsession.

You're comparing a torn ACL to a meniscus tear? Listen, Lin was not trying to get exposed by the Heat so he can maximize on his new contract and I don't blame him. He probably won't get anything close to what he is making now again.

I'm comparing a percentage being thrown out there to a percentage being thrown out there. And lol at your theory.

It's not a theory my man, it's just how things work in the NBA. Lin was cleared to play, but decided to sit out of a playoff series??? Man was trying to get paid and I don't blame him one bit. He did the smart thing for himself.

[AllanHoustonFan]

Never come back plz

[Thugger HBC]

It's not a theory my man, it's just how things work in the NBA. Lin was cleared to play, but decided to sit out of a playoff series??? Man was trying to get paid and I don't blame him one bit. He did the smart thing for himself.

yep....which was why I was miffed at his 85% comment, it seemed to be a play on words, a diss to actual intelligence.

no one says a % of minimum threshhold.

but of course, here is his actual quote.....

“Every single vet on our team that has been in the league longer than five years pulled me aside and told me that I shouldn’t play,” Lin said. “And I had arguments with them about why I should.”

Apparently he was very much able to do so, we all know this, but I fully understood why he didn't.

[K_ick_God]

It's not a theory my man, it's just how things work in the NBA. Lin was cleared to play, but decided to sit out of a playoff series??? Man was trying to get paid and I don't blame him one bit. He did the smart thing for himself.

yep....which was why I was miffed at his 85% comment, it seemed to be a play on words, a diss to actual intelligence.

no one says a % of minimum threshhold.

but of course, here is his actual quote.....

“Every single vet on our team that has been in the league longer than five years pulled me aside and told me that I shouldn’t play,” Lin said. “And I had arguments with them about why I should.”

Apparently he was very much able to do so, we all know this, but I fully understood why he didn't.

Tsk tsk tsk. Buying Isola nonsense. You're better than that.

But I feel you guys want to believe Isola because it's easier to justify losing him for nothing. You want to think Lin is all these bad things. He isn't though.

Truthfully, if you think he's mediocre, then why do you care whether he played against the Heat? He wouldn't have helped us anyway according to what you guys say about him. An "average" player can't help you beat the Heat anyway. So who cares right?

[sirdeadcat]

End of the day, we lost a young PG that's putting up a Mike Conley, Ty Lawson esque season for absolutely nothing. Lin could've make us a more competitive team this year, and in the future. That's just hard to swallow.

[Stannis]

It's not a theory my man, it's just how things work in the NBA. Lin was cleared to play, but decided to sit out of a playoff series??? Man was trying to get paid and I don't blame him one bit. He did the smart thing for himself.

yep....which was why I was miffed at his 85% comment, it seemed to be a play on words, a diss to actual intelligence.

no one says a % of minimum threshhold.

but of course, here is his actual quote.....

“Every single vet on our team that has been in the league longer than five years pulled me aside and told me that I shouldn’t play,” Lin said. “And I had arguments with them about why I should.”

Apparently he was very much able to do so, we all know this, but I fully understood why he didn't.

Tsk tsk tsk. Buying Isola nonsense. You're better than that.

But I feel you guys want to believe Isola because it's easier to justify losing him for nothing. You want to think Lin is all these bad things. He isn't though.

Truthfully, if you think he's mediocre, then why do you care whether he played against the Heat? He wouldn't have helped us anyway according to what you guys say about him. An "average" player can't help you beat the Heat anyway. So who cares right?

[Thugger HBC]

It's not a theory my man, it's just how things work in the NBA. Lin was cleared to play, but decided to sit out of a playoff series??? Man was trying to get paid and I don't blame him one bit. He did the smart thing for himself.

yep....which was why I was miffed at his 85% comment, it seemed to be a play on words, a diss to actual intelligence.

no one says a % of minimum threshhold.

but of course, here is his actual quote.....

“Every single vet on our team that has been in the league longer than five years pulled me aside and told me that I shouldn’t play,” Lin said. “And I had arguments with them about why I should.”

Apparently he was very much able to do so, we all know this, but I fully understood why he didn't.

Tsk tsk tsk. Buying Isola nonsense. You're better than that.

But I feel you guys want to believe Isola because it's easier to justify losing him for nothing. You want to think Lin is all these bad things. He isn't though.

Truthfully, if you think he's mediocre, then why do you care whether he played against the Heat? He wouldn't have helped us anyway according to what you guys say about him. An "average" player can't help you beat the Heat anyway. So who cares right?

KG, that statement was made well after the playoffs were over, has little to do with isola.

It's a non issue totally.

[Pharmcat]

still discussing lin?

in the best world, I wouldve liked NY to match, give it one year, and if team didnt win, trade him to avoid yr 3 tax

but they decided it was too $$ and moved on

Lin is a huge lockerroom distraction in ny (can he co exist with melo? is this melos team? should lin start over felton?), cant handle pressure from norris cole and mario chalmers (a team ny needs to beat to get to finals), and isnt willing to play while hurt in the POs

[Pharmcat]

Watched eery Rockets game this season. Lin is not limited because he doesn't have the ball. Lin is limited because he's limited.

Yep, can't say i've watched every game, but i may have missed at most 10.

He is a good player, nothing about him indicates more than that.

I think my 18/8 prediction is a good, yet high scope prediction.

if lin is 18/8 by next year, it would be a mistake to have let him go

but if hes still 12-14/6 then its not

[Capn'O]

if lin is 18/8 by next year, it would be a mistake to have let him go

but if hes still 12-14/6 then its not

Oh no no! I view it totally differently. The justification for the move is how WE do, not how Jeremy does.

I say the low bar is we need to make the ECF and have Felton and the team put up a good showing vs. Miami (assuming that's who is there). Then you can't really question the move.

If you're not putting a title contending piece in place, you need to tend to the farm.

[Thugger HBC]

if lin is 18/8 by next year, it would be a mistake to have let him go

but if hes still 12-14/6 then its not

Oh no no! I view it totally differently. The justification for the move is how WE do, not how Jeremy does.

I say the low bar is we need to make the ECF and have Felton and the team put up a good showing vs. Miami (assuming that's who is there). Then you can't really question the move.

If you're not putting a title contending piece in place, you need to tend to the farm.

The bold is spot on, it's not about Lin at this point.

Same way it was with Gallo folks constantly comparing the Nuggets to the Knicks.

[GONYK]

if lin is 18/8 by next year, it would be a mistake to have let him go

but if hes still 12-14/6 then its not

Oh no no! I view it totally differently. The justification for the move is how WE do, not how Jeremy does.

I say the low bar is we need to make the ECF and have Felton and the team put up a good showing vs. Miami (assuming that's who is there). Then you can't really question the move.

If you're not putting a title contending piece in place, you need to tend to the farm.

Completely agree

[K_ick_God]

if lin is 18/8 by next year, it would be a mistake to have let him go

but if hes still 12-14/6 then its not

Oh no no! I view it totally differently. The justification for the move is how WE do, not how Jeremy does.

I say the low bar is we need to make the ECF and have Felton and the team put up a good showing vs. Miami (assuming that's who is there). Then you can't really question the move.

If you're not putting a title contending piece in place, you need to tend to the farm.

Again, this is buying more media hype/nonsense that Lin performed way over his head with the Knicks and that what you saw wasn't real. His track record with the Knicks was excellent. He performed at an elite level, before and after Woodson, before and after Melo returned. 18 and 8 was an average game for Lin during his time here.

The best indicator of how Lin would have done this year, and the next three, was ... ummm ... how he already did with the Knicks. His game spoke for itself.

The rest of you are filling in the blanks with all this speculative stuff and implicitly saying that he wasn't as good as he played. Did he kick ass as a Knick? Yes. He would have continued doing that IMO. Houston is not New York. It's a totally different team and situation.

Someone up above said that Felton performed like Linsanity during November. Hardly. He wasn't even close.

What all gives you guys the foundation to believe that Lin's actual game performances weren't actually as good as they were? That he went undrafted? That he left the Knicks? That Isola said so? All of the above have nothing, nothing, to do with the fact that Lin was *awesome* as a Knick -- in actual game time, playing actual basketball -- and we could've had him back as a Knick.

This notion that Lin played over his head because he had to, because he was desperate, because of Mike D'Antoni ... lol at all of it. Utter nonsense. Like any fool off the street could step on a basketball court and do what he did without being an exceptional basketball player ... just because he got "hot." This is the NBA. Not Little League or a Disney movie.

Trust me, if Felton was capable of playing like Lin did in that stretch, we'd have seen it by now ... just by accident or luck if any of all of your theories were remotely true.

[Thugger HBC]

if lin is 18/8 by next year, it would be a mistake to have let him go

but if hes still 12-14/6 then its not

Oh no no! I view it totally differently. The justification for the move is how WE do, not how Jeremy does.

I say the low bar is we need to make the ECF and have Felton and the team put up a good showing vs. Miami (assuming that's who is there). Then you can't really question the move.

If you're not putting a title contending piece in place, you need to tend to the farm.

Again, this is buying more media hype/nonsense that Lin performed way over his head with the Knicks and that what you saw wasn't real. His track record with the Knicks was excellent. He performed at an elite level, before and after Woodson, before and after Melo returned. 18 and 8 was an average game for Lin during his time here.

The best indicator of how Lin would have done this year, and the next three, was ... ummm ... how he already did with the Knicks. His game spoke for itself.

The rest of you are filling in the blanks with all this speculative stuff and implicitly saying that he wasn't as good as he played. Did he kick ass as a Knick? Yes. He would have continued doing that IMO. Houston is not New York. It's a totally different team and situation.

Someone up above said that Felton performed like Linsanity during November. Hardly. He wasn't even close.

Not even sure what your purpose was to even bring up a Lin convo today, but the poster is clearly stating Lins success has nothing to do with the Knicks now, but rather how we do WITHOUT him.

[K_ick_God]

Not even sure what your purpose was to even bring up a Lin convo today, but the poster is clearly stating Lins success has nothing to do with the Knicks now, but rather how we do WITHOUT him.

Pharmcat said that letting Lin go was a mistake if he could get to 18 and 8. He already proved that ... once again ... with a stretch of actual basketball by an actual basketball player in actual basketball games as an actual Knick.

No speculation. We saw the heights he reached but it wasn't good enough for James Dolan.

[yaboynyp]

End of the day, we lost a young PG that's putting up a Mike Conley, Ty Lawson esque season for absolutely nothing. Lin could've make us a more competitive team this year, and in the future. That's just hard to swallow.

Pretty much everything you just said is wrong.. His numbers are not close to Lawsons and his impact is no where near, not even in the stratosphere of both..

[Thugger HBC]

Not even sure what your purpose was to even bring up a Lin convo today, but the poster is clearly stating Lins success has nothing to do with the Knicks now, but rather how we do WITHOUT him.

Pharmcat said that letting Lin go was a mistake if he could get to 18 and 8. He already proved that ... once again ... with a stretch of actual basketball by an actual basketball player in actual basketball games as an actual Knick.

No speculation. We saw the heights he reached but it wasn't good enough for James Dolan.

I'm just curious why you brought up the Lin convo today.

We all know people will express their views, and no one opinion is any more credible than the next.

[CU_NY09]

It's not a theory my man, it's just how things work in the NBA. Lin was cleared to play, but decided to sit out of a playoff series??? Man was trying to get paid and I don't blame him one bit. He did the smart thing for himself.

Why do you keep saying that he was cleared to play?

He worked out on Monday and Tuesday with the hope of returning to the floor for game 5, but he was not cleared to play by team doctors.

http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?sto ... WT&w=1clvy