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Post#1101 » by Prez » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:20 pm

Has Giles been signed yet? Would love to give him a shot here.
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Post#1102 » by WRau1 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:22 pm

Who's that undersized white PF/C we traded for from the Kings in the mid 2000s that we got excited for because he was all hustle and athletics? Thats who PattyC reminds me of, just better.
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Post#1103 » by randy84 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:24 pm

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greekbuck34 wrote:So far we have:

Better starting 5 but not enough to void the wall tactic which was our main target(remember the #throughthewall tweets from Giannis).
Worse shooting
Worse Bench
Worse Depth
Destroyed chemistry
The same coach who failed to deliver on much better conditions 2 seasons in a row.
Lakers,Sixers, Nets are far stronger this year, Miami more experienced and with better chemistry too.

So in Giannis contract year we basicaly said to him, we couldn't help you it's all on your hands again.


Worse shooting? Bledsoe vs. Holliday...Holliday is better...Hill or Wes vs. Dante (as of now) I'll give you Hill and Wes..the rest of the starters are the same. Bench...weaker, but I like Portis and Augustine. Still need a couple contributing members of the bench on vet mins...

Im not buying the destroyed Chemistry...this team needed some edge, too many nice guys. I don't love what MKE has done in the offseason so far, but I would have been concerned about the same things if Bogdan deal had gone down.


Not sure why people say that Holiday is a better shooter than Bledsoe. Bledsoe was the better shooter last year outside of 3pt% and there wasn't a whole lot of difference there.
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Post#1104 » by LUKE23 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:24 pm

WRau1 wrote:Who's that undersized white PF/C we traded for from the Kings in the mid 2000s that we got excited for because he was all hustle and athletics? Thats who PattyC reminds me of, just better.


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Post#1105 » by randy84 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:27 pm

WRau1 wrote:Who's that undersized white PF/C we traded for from the Kings in the mid 2000s that we got excited for because he was all hustle and athletics? Thats who PattyC reminds me of, just better.


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Post#1106 » by Bus or bust » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:29 pm

Prez wrote:Has Giles been signed yet? Would love to give him a shot here.


GIles was balling out before the season stopped. No clue why the Kings didn't take his option and not sure why he hasn't been signed yet. Saw an article saying the Mavs are interested but that's it. He'd be a great fit to round out the bench and has nice upside
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Post#1107 » by WRau1 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:29 pm

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WRau1 wrote:Who's that undersized white PF/C we traded for from the Kings in the mid 2000s that we got excited for because he was all hustle and athletics? Thats who PattyC reminds me of, just better.


How can you forget the Brockness Monster?


I thought it was Brockman but I kept picturing Frank Brickowski. My mind is mush.
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Post#1108 » by tedbrogen » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:31 pm

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Fotis St wrote:I have seen Semi holding his ground guarding Giannis ...
I have never seen Pat being physical in any game that I remember.
All I remember is his put back slams, some straight line dunks , and him bricking alot of 3s.
He doesn't do the little things that matter on the Defensive end or Offensively such as setting a strong pick.



Here's a pretty good example of him doing just about a little of everything you're claiming he never does in the first highlight video I opened.*

*It also might be his only highlight video tbf


Pat is flawed in a lot of ways, but playing with energy and physicality is pretty much the one thing he does bring to the floor.


There was also the Pels game where they put Pat on Zion for a couple possessions and he managed to not get pushed under the rim and altered shots with his leaping ability.

He’s a really good 8th/9th man. He is fairly versatile on D, can guard most 1-3s, fits into either drop zone or full switch systems, always brings energy, good in the open court, can finish at the rim, seems to be a good teammate, and is not afraid to let open threes fly.

He’s not a starter or sixth man because his shot is inconsistent, he can’t create for himself or others, and he is more of an athlete than a high IQ player.

I’m glad they kept him around.
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Post#1109 » by Wisky4life » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:35 pm

Trade Wilson for a Pick.

Pick up a few guys. We need to build that bench with a few more vets.

Bazemore, Dedmon, Craig. Hell even could bring back Ersan and Delly.

Roster if we have the cap space? Team looks good.

PG: Holiday.........Augustin.......Mason
SG: DDV..............Bazemore.....Merrill
SF: Middleton.......Craig..........Conny..........Nwora
PF: Giannis..........Portis.........Thanisis
C: Lopez.............Dedmon
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Post#1110 » by Bucksfan28 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:41 pm

Prez wrote:Has Giles been signed yet? Would love to give him a shot here.


Yep, Giles for sure. For wing depth I'd kick the tires on Moore, Bazemore, GRIII, Dotson. I also liked Rivers before FA started but he seems a little redundant at this point.
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Post#1111 » by Fotis St » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:43 pm

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Fotis St wrote:I have seen Semi holding his ground guarding Giannis ...
I have never seen Pat being physical in any game that I remember.
All I remember is his put back slams, some straight line dunks , and him bricking alot of 3s.
He doesn't do the little things that matter on the Defensive end or Offensively such as setting a strong pick.



Here's a pretty good example of him doing just about a little of everything you're claiming he never does in the first highlight video I opened.*

*It also might be his only highlight video tbf


This is actually a nice video BUT it favours my point.
He doesn't use his strength. Strength is NOT blocking a 3pt attempt , that's cause of his vertical .
Where is the physicality ? Where is the contact in order to use his strength ? Its not there, he doesn't play like that.
Look at Semi ... this dude is tough, he uses his body and his strength ON COURT.
Semi is similar to PJ Tucker. He plays tough, and sucrifices his body either not backing down or take the charg.

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Post#1112 » by Bmaasse » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:45 pm

randy84 wrote:
pilprin wrote:
greekbuck34 wrote:So far we have:

Better starting 5 but not enough to void the wall tactic which was our main target(remember the #throughthewall tweets from Giannis).
Worse shooting
Worse Bench
Worse Depth
Destroyed chemistry
The same coach who failed to deliver on much better conditions 2 seasons in a row.
Lakers,Sixers, Nets are far stronger this year, Miami more experienced and with better chemistry too.

So in Giannis contract year we basicaly said to him, we couldn't help you it's all on your hands again.


Worse shooting? Bledsoe vs. Holliday...Holliday is better...Hill or Wes vs. Dante (as of now) I'll give you Hill and Wes..the rest of the starters are the same. Bench...weaker, but I like Portis and Augustine. Still need a couple contributing members of the bench on vet mins...

Im not buying the destroyed Chemistry...this team needed some edge, too many nice guys. I don't love what MKE has done in the offseason so far, but I would have been concerned about the same things if Bogdan deal had gone down.


Not sure why people say that Holiday is a better shooter than Bledsoe. Bledsoe was the better shooter last year outside of 3pt% and there wasn't a whole lot of difference there.


Its because Bledsoe clearly has some sort of weird playoff anxiety that makes his regular season numbers irrelevant in the post season. If he were able bring his regular season play into the playoffs, I'm sure we would have made a finals appearance.
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Post#1113 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:46 pm

Fotis St wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
Fotis St wrote:I have seen Semi holding his ground guarding Giannis ...
I have never seen Pat being physical in any game that I remember.
All I remember is his put back slams, some straight line dunks , and him bricking alot of 3s.
He doesn't do the little things that matter on the Defensive end or Offensively such as setting a strong pick.



Here's a pretty good example of him doing just about a little of everything you're claiming he never does in the first highlight video I opened.*

*It also might be his only highlight video tbf


This is actually a nice video BUT it favours my point.
He doesn't use his strength. Strength is NOT blocking a 3pt attempt , that's cause of his vertical .
Where is the physicality ? Where is the contact in order to use his strength ? Its not there, he doesn't play like that.
Look at Semi ... this dude is tough, he uses his body and his strength ON COURT.
Semi is similar to PJ Tucker. He plays tough, and sucrifices his body either not backing down or take the charg.



Semi is not a FA, so I don't understand why he's relevant.
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Post#1114 » by Matches Malone » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:48 pm

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randy84 wrote:
WRau1 wrote:Who's that undersized white PF/C we traded for from the Kings in the mid 2000s that we got excited for because he was all hustle and athletics? Thats who PattyC reminds me of, just better.


How can you forget the Brockness Monster?


I thought it was Brockman but I kept picturing Frank Brickowski. My mind is mush.


I had to look up highlights to remember just exactly what he looked like and while watching, I realized how awful that era of Bucks basketball was and how we're on the cusp of going back to that if Giannis bolts :(

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Post#1115 » by stevescheffler06 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:48 pm

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Post#1116 » by Prez » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:49 pm

Fotis it’s time to let it go with Semi, the “has muscles but doesn’t really do anything” stuff is funny when Semi basically gets paid by Boston to lift weights lol. Dude is a nothing player.
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Post#1117 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:51 pm

Torrey Craig never hit 33% from 3 in his career, and has never been above replacement level. Sure, he plays hard, but there's still lots of players available who are better.

I will continue to try to will Shaq Harrison into existence. You guys will love him.
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Post#1118 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:51 pm

How many 2 way contracts we got now lmao
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Post#1119 » by greekbuck34 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:52 pm

Our strategy for our bench rotation is to average Allstar numbers on both sides of the court.
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Post#1120 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:53 pm

Wait.. its 2 year deal not two way.... got im tired

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