2020-2021 College Basketball / NBA Draft

Mik317 · Post #1101 » by **Mik317** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:30 pm

Austin Reeves seems like the Pompey guy of the year.

Negrodamus · Post #1102 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:12 pm

Read on Twitter

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Liked him but smart move. Could be a top 15 pick next year.

Kobblehead · Post #1103 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:39 pm

Mik317 wrote:Austin Reeves seems like the Pompey guy of the year.

I literally love that kid. Think he's one of the best chefs in the draft. He's literally cooked any defensive guard you can think of. Embarrassed Suggs. Lit up McBride. Etc. Old af, though.

Kobblehead · Post #1104 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:23 pm

Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Liked him but smart move. Could be a top 15 pick next year.

I thought this kid was a bigman until I saw his highlights. He's got some G skills.

Kobblehead · Post #1105 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:56 am

@76iology, are you concerned with the development trajectory of Franz Wagner?

Little to no statistical difference from freshman to sophomore year other than improved distributing.

Kobblehead · Post #1106 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:23 am

I'm really down on these Big 10 prospects this year.

Only guy I really like is Duane Washington in the 2nd round.

Watch on YouTube

76ciology · Post #1107 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:26 am

Kobblehead wrote:@76iology, are you concerned with the development trajectory of Franz Wagner?

Little to no statistical difference from freshman to sophomore year other than improved distributing.

I do take that into consideration that’s why he’s like top 6-7 only for me.

He has played 2 years in college basketball and is younger than Cade Cunningham and Mobley.

I also take into consideration that scoring in the NBA is easier than in college or euro. They say its because of zone defense and they dont call fouls as soft as in the NBA.

Wagner for me isn’t a volume scorer or shot creator. He won’t go James Harden or Doncic, iso step back 30pts per game mode.

He can be like a Tobi or Hayward or Jaylen Brown level scorer, with as good facilitating and better defense. He’s not a guy who’s gonna run your offense. He’s more like a 2nd-3rd option.

If you want a guy who can be first option, the clear candidate is Cam Thomas hahaha

If you draft wagner, you can sleep at night. Because you know he has good foundation that is needed in the NBA. It’s just a matter on how good his development will take him (which his style of play in the NBA is in favor) and experience.

If Wagner posts vids practicing shooting, you know its real.
If Ben Simmons or Barnes posts vids of his shots going down, deep inside you’re like.. “pretty sure he only posts 10% of those shots because 90% of those likely didnt went in”

stormi · Post #1108 » by **stormi** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:14 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/oogasv/stat_dump_of_2021_ncaa_guards/

Tre Mann is just a shotcreating demon

76ciology · Post #1109 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:10 am

I was discussing with sixerscan about the 2015 NBA draft. He said about Booker not being that prospect you’d consider drafted with the third overall. And i agree with that.

And i also see that thing with Cam Thomas in this year’s draft

Negrodamus · Post #1110 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:47 am

stormi wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/oogasv/stat_dump_of_2021_ncaa_guards/

Tre Mann is just a shotcreating demon

My biggest takeaway is McKinley Wright is a shotcreating demon. Didn't realize how good of a year he had.

DCasey91 · Post #1111 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:48 am

Damn well there goes the diamond roughy in Roko.

Only Christopher left hopefully.

If Roko’s Shot gets better he’s not top 15 next year he’s top ten easy. Even if he’s not he’ll be a good one no doubt about it.

So young, sized up great (kept growing all year). Plays like a bull. Grown men bounce off him.

Plays Like a 20+ pound Brute style Joe Ingles. Love him

Dude was used in every scoring role you could think off and there was way too many flashes not to be a coincidence as to why his role on offense was getting the work over on variety.

Post ups, Pick and Pops, Drives, ballhandling, left alone catch and shoot, passing from the post (great skill there), bit of iso, shot creating, running breaks. EVERYTHING lol.

Dammit.

DCasey91 · Post #1112 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:51 am

Stanford wrote:Why is Tre Mann being mocked so low?

His YouTube scouting videos look identical to SGA's from Kentucky

Size matters. I know my stance on Tre. But size matters at the end of the day.

Though he’s a better finisher then McBride all ends up.

He’s mix of Kemba and mini Shai lol. Keep saying it but it holds true for me.

Negrodamus · Post #1113 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:01 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Though he’s a better finisher then McBride all ends up.

Well that's not true. You can use this link as reference

stormi wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/oogasv/stat_dump_of_2021_ncaa_guards/

DCasey91 · Post #1114 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:05 pm

I’m with Stormi if Keon is mocked near Williams or is close by in the late teens on draft he is for me the biggest sleeper hit or miss pick in this whole draft.

Is a tweener so that’s a worry. But does flash the scoring upside 100%.

DCasey91 · Post #1115 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:09 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Though he’s a better finisher then McBride all ends up.

Well that's not true. You can use this link as reference

stormi wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/oogasv/stat_dump_of_2021_ncaa_guards/

Check the floater %’s then come back to me.

Tre is a ways better finisher at the rim then McBride

More then just general stats. Both are going to struggle.

One has serious craft near the rim that’s Tre hence the Mini Shai analogy

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Watch games Tre has wtf was that layup he just did.

Both are going to need that come next level called the NBA.

Also it’s easy to tell who has more polish.

If Tre was an A tier athlete in terms of the size department he’d be 5th without a second thought for me.

DCasey91 · Post #1116 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:15 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I honestly don't see how Keon Johnson is so far ahead of Jaden Springer on big boards. Springer is superior across the board in every trait I look at.

Size/speed on the inside he does struggle and shot making. I don’t like Springers mechanics at all. He is a meatball (meatballs do well) so the size factor is a wash to me.

Keon is a tweener though so there’s merit either way. It’s close

But at those sort of picks after the lotto I can see why Keon is ahead.

I mean if that’s the case then Josh and Tre should get a serious look into the top 15.

But we’re going around in circles now

Still betting our first rounder is as good as gone.

DCasey91 · Post #1117 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:22 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Keon Johnson reminds me a Latrell Sprewell. I'd be ecstatic if he somehow ended up here.

That’s exactly who he reminds me off good spot. I mean Sprewell on either side at pick 17 is money to me.

Negrodamus · Post #1118 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:57 pm

DCasey91 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Though he’s a better finisher then McBride all ends up.

Well that's not true. You can use this link as reference

stormi wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/oogasv/stat_dump_of_2021_ncaa_guards/

Check the floater %’s then come back to me.

Can you hook me up with those strictly floater stats? I want to be informed.

DCasey91 · Post #1119 » by **DCasey91** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:15 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Well that's not true. You can use this link as reference

Check the floater %’s then come back to me.

Can you hook me up with those strictly floater stats? I want to be informed.

Can’t remember what it was but it showed a clear differential in FG%’s in Tre’s favor was rocking elite numbers on more volume. But Tre 100% needs it in his arsenal.

McBride is smart and has really really good measurables. It’s up to him to use it as best as he can

Negrodamus · Post #1120 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:21 pm

DCasey91 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Check the floater %’s then come back to me.

Can you hook me up with those strictly floater stats? I want to be informed.

Can’t remember what it was but it showed a clear differential in FG%’s in Tre’s favor was rocking elite numbers on more volume. But Tre 100% needs it in his arsenal.

McBride is smart and has really really good measurables. It’s up to him to use it as best as he can

I supposed I'll just have to take your word for it, I guess.