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Post#1101 » by Daver » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:14 pm

randy84 wrote:Biggest concern is if Giannis isn’t willing to change his game. If he still wants the ball at the end of games or barrels head first into 4 defenders then Dame won’t help. He needs to take a page from DWade and know when to defer and take a step back. He also must realize that his PPG may take a hit and he may not be in MVP convo.



Giannis wanted to play with dame so you have to assume he knows dames game very well and knows his game will have to change to accompany dames great game assets.Dames game will chsnge alittle to as he wont have to shoot as much so his average will go down to
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Post#1102 » by Daver » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:20 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:I mean, if Dame can’t be happy on a title contender playing next to arguably the best player in the league, I think everyone was waaaaay off on Dame’s personality all these years.

I think he’ll be happy here.



I agree im sure theres a let down no south beach spent all his time there and there were billboards all ready up in miami welcoming dame( talk about arrogance and entitlement) that was truly his #1 choice but bucks were his 2nd so i think he will be happy here and nect june he csn bring his chip trophy down to S beach n show it to butler lol
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Post#1103 » by emunney » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:28 pm

Folks, now that he's in Milwaukee, it's Lillard Time. Some of you will get this.
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Post#1104 » by MiltownHawkeye » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:29 pm

So I understand Lillard isn't Steve Nash or CP3 or anything in this department, but who was the last Bucks starting PG to be as good as him as a passer and floor general?

Jennings? Sessions? Cassell?
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Post#1105 » by theFireBlanket » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:34 pm

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-Jragon- wrote:I think, at the end of the day, our ball handling is wayyyyy better. Jrue was decent but wasn't really dangerous nor demanded much attention so that made Giannis more valuable to bring the ball up - even out of control half the time. Khris is a threat as he brings the ball up but has no speed. But Dame is under control all the time, still very fast and dangerous from anywhere inside of half court. This is going to be like a video game this year. I hope our coaching and team chemistry is solid


Agreed. I didn't trust Jrue offensively in any way in a late-game situation. Really no more than I trusted Bledsoe. Decision-making, ball handling, FT shooting, all of it.

And honestly, even though the Valley Oop will likely go down as my all-time favorite play, Jrue never should've made that pass. I love that it happened, but that was an irresponsible PG decision.


The valley oop was the right play. You know Giannis is going to get that & its CP3 trailing him. Thats a guaranteed basket. It just seemed nuts in live action, given the full sequence.

Jrue jacked gutsier shots during that playoff run & the next, after shooting poorly & nailed them. You could look at some of those clutch makes & count all the misses leading up to those. Asking yourself, why is he shooting that?
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Post#1106 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:34 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:Yeah BS was tying himself in knots trying to **** on the trade. Of course he has been the most consistent Jrue fan in the media unlike the rest of these clowns that have decided he’s apparently one of the top 10 players in the league

I was actually expecting much worse from Bill based on the posts about it. The thing I will say in defense of Bill is that he at least laid out a coherent defense of his opinions, even if there is some coping and things I don't agree with mixed in there. I can appreciate that because it's a basis for actual conversation rather than just saying insane **** that isn't at all based in reality.

EDIT: ok I should've listened to the entire monologue first, he started to go off the rails a little like 80% of the way through with the way he was talking about Dame
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Post#1107 » by theFireBlanket » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:38 pm

emunney wrote:Folks, now that he's in Milwaukee, it's Lillard Time. Some of you will get this.



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Post#1108 » by Prez » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:43 pm

randy84 wrote:Biggest concern is if Giannis isn’t willing to change his game. If he still wants the ball at the end of games or barrels head first into 4 defenders then Dame won’t help. He needs to take a page from DWade and know when to defer and take a step back. He also must realize that his PPG may take a hit and he may not be in MVP convo.

Giannis will defer and be a screener if there’s someone worth deferring to and screening for, and we just got the 2nd nastiest PnR deep range shooter/scorer probably in league history lol.
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Post#1109 » by sidney lanier » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:48 pm

emunney wrote:Folks, now that he's in Milwaukee, it's Lillard Time. Some of you will get this.


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Post#1110 » by Profound23 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:54 pm

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randy84 wrote:Biggest concern is if Giannis isn’t willing to change his game. If he still wants the ball at the end of games or barrels head first into 4 defenders then Dame won’t help. He needs to take a page from DWade and know when to defer and take a step back. He also must realize that his PPG may take a hit and he may not be in MVP convo.



Giannis wanted to play with dame so you have to assume he knows dames game very well and knows his game will have to change to accompany dames great game assets.Dames game will chsnge alittle to as he wont have to shoot as much so his average will go down to



Biggest concern is injury. If our starting 5 (specifically Dame, Khris, Giannis, Lopez) are healthy come playoff time we are winning it all. If there aren't any postseason injuries then the next biggest concern is whatever team we face in the West.
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Post#1111 » by VooDoo7 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:56 pm

I see some confusion on this across social media/talking to people on the streets. Dame didn't rescind his trade request once he knew POR was talking to MKE. Some people think he found out he was going to MKE and then backed off his request. That isn't the case.
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Post#1112 » by German Athens » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:58 pm

So, who else is going to the rally on Saturday?
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Post#1113 » by raferfenix » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:10 pm

MiltownHawkeye wrote:So I understand Lillard isn't Steve Nash or CP3 or anything in this department, but who was the last Bucks starting PG to be as good as him as a passer and floor general?

Jennings? Sessions? Cassell?


Rookie TJ Ford do we think?

Idk if Cassell was ever as good of a passer though your definition of floor general may vary.

Jennings much less Sessions were more fools gold than true PG's you could count on.
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Post#1114 » by Profound23 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:14 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:I see some confusion on this across social media/talking to people on the streets. Dame didn't rescind his trade request once he knew POR was talking to MKE. Some people think he found out he was going to MKE and then backed off his request. That isn't the case.



They don't really think that, these people just like to spend their time bashing our city/organization.

We could have traded Grayson straight up for Doncic and everyone would finding holes in the trade and how it is going to backfire. Any deal can backfire, but in their heart they know we made a sweet deal and most outsiders can't stand that a small market team can have Giannis/Dame and this supporting cast.
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Post#1115 » by Daver » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:15 pm

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randy84 wrote:Biggest concern is if Giannis isn’t willing to change his game. If he still wants the ball at the end of games or barrels head first into 4 defenders then Dame won’t help. He needs to take a page from DWade and know when to defer and take a step back. He also must realize that his PPG may take a hit and he may not be in MVP convo.



Giannis wanted to play with dame so you have to assume he knows dames game very well and knows his game will have to change to accompany dames great game assets.Dames game will chsnge alittle to as he wont have to shoot as much so his average will go down to



Biggest concern is injury. If our starting 5 (specifically Dame, Khris, Giannis, Lopez) are healthy come playoff time we are winning it all. If there aren't any postseason injuries then the next biggest concern is whatever team we face in the West.



No brainer think we win it all in 22 if we had midds but this year if healthy is 68 to 70 wins a possibility or not with todays load managing
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Post#1116 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:15 pm

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PG Graveyard wrote:Yeah BS was tying himself in knots trying to **** on the trade. Of course he has been the most consistent Jrue fan in the media unlike the rest of these clowns that have decided he’s apparently one of the top 10 players in the league

I was actually expecting much worse from Bill based on the posts about it. The thing I will say in defense of Bill is that he at least laid out a coherent defense of his opinions, even if there is some coping and things I don't agree with mixed in there. I can appreciate that because it's a basis for actual conversation rather than just saying insane **** that isn't at all based in reality.

EDIT: ok I should've listened to the entire monologue first, he started to go off the rails a little like 80% of the way through with the way he was talking about Dame

Also, I love NoTechBen, but I wish he would've come across a little more composed and less like he a crazy fan that just did a few lines of coke right before his segment. Even if we can all understand his excitement from how we were feeling the hours post trade. :lol:
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Post#1117 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:16 pm

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randy84 wrote:Biggest concern is if Giannis isn’t willing to change his game. If he still wants the ball at the end of games or barrels head first into 4 defenders then Dame won’t help. He needs to take a page from DWade and know when to defer and take a step back. He also must realize that his PPG may take a hit and he may not be in MVP convo.

Giannis will defer and be a screener if there’s someone worth deferring to and screening for, and we just got the 2nd nastiest PnR deep range shooter/scorer probably in league history lol.


This. I always kinda mocked the idea where people were pining for Giannis to be this screener/off-ball rim runner but that was because we were thinking the best realistic acquisitions were guys like Fred Van Vleet and Terry Rozier. Dame is the kind of singular offensive force that actually warrants "taking the ball out of Giannis' hands".
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Post#1118 » by chonestown » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:20 pm

When John Horst is conversing with his newly-acquired superstar that is something I call Lill Communication.
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Post#1119 » by PG Graveyard » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:20 pm

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PG Graveyard wrote:Yeah BS was tying himself in knots trying to **** on the trade. Of course he has been the most consistent Jrue fan in the media unlike the rest of these clowns that have decided he’s apparently one of the top 10 players in the league

I was actually expecting much worse from Bill based on the posts about it. The thing I will say in defense of Bill is that he at least laid out a coherent defense of his opinions, even if there is some coping and things I don't agree with mixed in there. I can appreciate that because it's a basis for actual conversation rather than just saying insane **** that isn't at all based in reality.

EDIT: ok I should've listened to the entire monologue first, he started to go off the rails a little like 80% of the way through with the way he was talking about Dame

Also, I love NoTechBen, but I wish he would've come across a little more composed and less like he a crazy fan that just did a few lines of coke right before his segment. Even if we can all understand his excitement from how we were feeling the hours post trade. :lol:


Yeah I don’t agree that our defense is just going to fall off a cliff here. Also it’s not like this will 100 percent be our roster come playoff time.

Love Jrue and he is great defensively but it’s not like he could cover Butler or Tatum anyways. Those guys both cooked him.
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Post#1120 » by -Jragon- » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:23 pm

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randy84 wrote:Biggest concern is if Giannis isn’t willing to change his game. If he still wants the ball at the end of games or barrels head first into 4 defenders then Dame won’t help. He needs to take a page from DWade and know when to defer and take a step back. He also must realize that his PPG may take a hit and he may not be in MVP convo.

Giannis will defer and be a screener if there’s someone worth deferring to and screening for, and we just got the 2nd nastiest PnR deep range shooter/scorer probably in league history lol.


This. I always kinda mocked the idea where people were pining for Giannis to be this screener/off-ball rim runner but that was because we were thinking the best realistic acquisitions were guys like Fred Van Vleet and Terry Rozier. Dame is the kind of singular offensive force that actually warrants "taking the ball out of Giannis' hands".


I still want the ball in Giannis's hands ... post up though so you aren't plowing people straight over .. plenty of kickout guys to pass out of doubles which will be easier to see when you aren't flying 100 mph

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