Bears thread 13

[Dresden]

Did Swift and Monangai do enough to shut down the trade for Kamara talk(or any other RB)?

Would like to see what Booker can add to our defense if he can play like he did in preseason. We need to add a disrupter to that front 4, it would just take this defense to another level.

And the Moody situation is interesting. Probably going to lose him.

Definitely.

[Dresden]

you actually don't even have to judge the qbs against each other at all. "in hindsight, was there a better player available at the pick?" is an extremely facile form of draft evaluation that treats the draft like a much more exact science than it actually is. caleb doesn't need to have been the best possible pick to be a good pick; he just needs to be a good qb.

Good point. You can only go on the information you had at the time, you don't get to see how they perform the first few years and then go back and make your pick. With Maye, he played at NC, not exactly a powerhouse school known for producing QB's. And we'd already had one bomb of a QB from that school. Imagine if he passed on Caleb Williams for Maye, and Maye struggled the way Caleb has? Which is very likely, given how the Bears never seem to be able to develop young QB's.

[jnrjr79]

It will be a potentially awkward situation when the Bears have to let Moody go to another team. And he will definitely be grabbed up. I don’t know how this turns out, Moody could crash to earth next week, but the bloody contract we paid to Santos is increasingly more ill-conceived even after it was il conceived in the first place. I like Santos, but that wasn’t necessary.

Googling around, it seems his guaranteed money is basically done after this year. Wouldn’t shock me if they think about making a change to Moody.

I think it's hard to switch to Moody. His track record is pretty spotty. He might be fine for a year, and then suddenly start missing chip shots and cost you games. It's something you won't know until it happens. Santos is the most accurate kicker the Bears have ever had I believe. It's a tough call.

I think they'll look at it, but ultimately not do it, basically because the sample size will be small enough that it'll be viewed as too risky when you have a known commodity around.

[patryk7754]

Let’s come back in 2 weeks with the ability to stop the run, and ability to run.

A wild concept

….that we manifested into reality

is this what coaching looks like?

[panthermark]

Did Swift and Monangai do enough to shut down the trade for Kamara talk(or any other RB)?

Would like to see what Booker can add to our defense if he can play like he did in preseason. We need to add a disrupter to that front 4, it would just take this defense to another level.

And the Moody situation is interesting. Probably going to lose him.

Kamara getting trucked by a DB and giving up a sack was enough for me, but I wasn't really longing for a trade prior to the game. I just though KM needed more touches inside.

[Dresden]

Right now, it's looking like our biggest needs are :

1). outside corner (although this is temporary, if Jaylen and Terrell both fully recover)

2) Pass rushers

3) O line- all three positions

[Dresden]

Will be interesting to see what the jets do at QB next week. Does Fields get another shot? Do they try to trade for someone? Tyrod doesn't seem like the answer. I guess at this point you just play for the #1 pick.

[NZB2323]

Right now, it's looking like our biggest needs are :

1). outside corner (although this is temporary, if Jaylen and Terrell both fully recover)

2) Pass rushers

3) O line- all three positions

Yeah, it’s tough because when healthy we might have the best secondary in the league but they’re always injured.

If it’s true that we can get a pass rusher for a 4th round pick, I would do that in a heartbeat, but if teams are asking for a 1st or 2nd, I’d pass.

[HearshotKDS]

One major thing Moody needs to work on is kickoffs. Can not have a kicker who regularly kicks touchbacks since the opposing team now starts at the 35 and Moody kicked a ton of kicks into the end zone. Or at least I assume its Moody, im not checking if they have Taylor taking kicks.

[jnrjr79]

One major thing Moody needs to work on is kickoffs. Can not have a kicker who regularly kicks touchbacks since the opposing team now starts at the 35 and Moody kicked a ton of kicks into the end zone. Or at least I assume its Moody, im not checking if they have Taylor taking kicks.

It was Moody. I noted the same thing as well. In both games he's had instances where he failed to get his kick into the drop zone.

[patryk7754]

One major thing Moody needs to work on is kickoffs. Can not have a kicker who regularly kicks touchbacks since the opposing team now starts at the 35 and Moody kicked a ton of kicks into the end zone. Or at least I assume its Moody, im not checking if they have Taylor taking kicks.

It was Moody. I noted the same thing as well. In both games he's had instances where he failed to get his kick into the drop zone.

Is there something I’m missing with this? I keep seeing analysts talk about how difficult it is for kickers to adjust to the new rules. Don’t they have to kick it between the goal line and the 20. Why is it all of the sudden so difficult for them to kick it inside the 5 yard line.

I guess a decade of just kicking out of the back of the endzone has made it “difficult” but it’s kind of pathetic they can’t adjust. Literally make millions of dollars to kick a ball into a certain area couple times a week and can’t do that. Legit pisses me off.

[Betta Bulleavit]

One major thing Moody needs to work on is kickoffs. Can not have a kicker who regularly kicks touchbacks since the opposing team now starts at the 35 and Moody kicked a ton of kicks into the end zone. Or at least I assume its Moody, im not checking if they have Taylor taking kicks.

It was Moody. I noted the same thing as well. In both games he's had instances where he failed to get his kick into the drop zone.

Is there something I’m missing with this? I keep seeing analysts talk about how difficult it is for kickers to adjust to the new rules. Don’t they have to kick it between the goal line and the 20. Why is it all of the sudden so difficult for them to kick it inside the 5 yard line.

I guess a decade of just kicking out of the back of the endzone has made it “difficult” but it’s kind of pathetic they can’t adjust. Literally make millions of dollars to kick a ball into a certain area couple times a week and can’t do that. Legit pisses me off.

It's actually more difficult than you might think. Taking something off of a kick without messing with the angle of it can be challenging. Especially when most kickers haven't trained for that as the NFL is the only level where it applies. And even at this level, its pretty new.

[jnrjr79]

One major thing Moody needs to work on is kickoffs. Can not have a kicker who regularly kicks touchbacks since the opposing team now starts at the 35 and Moody kicked a ton of kicks into the end zone. Or at least I assume its Moody, im not checking if they have Taylor taking kicks.

It was Moody. I noted the same thing as well. In both games he's had instances where he failed to get his kick into the drop zone.

Is there something I’m missing with this? I keep seeing analysts talk about how difficult it is for kickers to adjust to the new rules. Don’t they have to kick it between the goal line and the 20. Why is it all of the sudden so difficult for them to kick it inside the 5 yard line.

I guess a decade of just kicking out of the back of the endzone has made it “difficult” but it’s kind of pathetic they can’t adjust. Literally make millions of dollars to kick a ball into a certain area couple times a week and can’t do that. Legit pisses me off.

I don't know what "millions of dollars" has to do with anything. If it were easy, no kickers would struggle with it.

[patryk7754]

I don’t think it’s very difficult to kick a ball within a 20x50 yard zone.

[jnrjr79]

I don’t think it’s very difficult to kick a ball within a 20x50 yard zone.

Well, then it sounds like you have a lucrative job opportunity awaiting you. Congrats.

[molepharmer]

Not making excuses for Moody but A Jahns was at the game and said he noticed Moody throwing up grass during every tv time out to try to get an idea on what the wind was doing; wind was very inconsistent from what Moody told Jahns. The one KO I remember he kicked inside the 5, Saints returned to the about the 33yd line. In general, Bears could improve their kick/punt coverage, even if they are statistically about league average.

[HearshotKDS]

Tim Jenkins has his "highlight analysis" up for anyone that enjoys his content. I wouldnt call him an expert but hes on the list that gets All-22 early and I dont pay for access to it so its nice to see better angles of some of the key plays:

Watch on YouTube

His opinion on the DJ moore throw in the endzone that hit the defenders helmet starts at 13:52 for anyone masochistic enough to want to rewatch that.

[NZB2323]

I don’t think it’s very difficult to kick a ball within a 20x50 yard zone.

Go to a football field, try and do it, create a video, and then post it here.

Kicking a football exactly 45-64 yards without having it go 25 yards to the left or right every time in every type of weather sounds damn near impossible to me.

[Dresden]

I don’t think it’s very difficult to kick a ball within a 20x50 yard zone.

I'm with you. Especially since they have nothing else to do all week but practice kicking. A landing zone 20 yards deep does not seem like it would be that hard to land it in. But since a touchback gets you out to the 35, I don't know you're losing that much by just taking the touchback. Maybe 10 yards if all goes well, but there's always the chance of a long return too.

[Dresden]

Santos seemed to land it around the 5 just about every time.