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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1121 » by Sunsss » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:26 am

Sacramento wins its first game without Fox and Hield. Wins and losses here are like the draft. Crapshoot.
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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1122 » by NTB » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:29 am

carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1123 » by Mjee » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:35 am

2016-2017 Phx Suns Starters:

1. Eric Bledsoe
2. Devin Booker
3. Tj Warren
4. Josh Jackson
5. Tyson Chandler
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Post#1124 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:37 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:3 point shooting:

Draymond Green before 24 = 29%
Jimmy Butler before 25 = 30%
Andre Iguodala before 27 = 32%
Scottie Pippen before 29 = 26%

As long as Jackson plays to his strengths like today he can still be a 18 / 8 type player as his floor and then if he can get that improvement in his shot like these guys he'll end up in a similar bracket.


Did those last 3 guys get a lot better after that?
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Post#1125 » by carey » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:45 am

I'm more worried about Chriss' shot than I am about JJ's.
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Post#1126 » by bhawk » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:52 am

carey wrote:I'm more worried about Chriss' shot than I am about JJ's.


Chriss has been the worst Suns player in SL so far. It hasn't been close. I'm excited about Jackson and even Bender has had his moments... but Chriss is embarrassing himself out there! I think we have our bust. Sadly.

I really did want him to be good... we all did. That Rodney Rogers comp sounds about right.
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Post#1127 » by bhawk » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:03 am

cosmofizzo wrote:It's crazy... you wouldn't have thought before he was drafted that the closest comp for Marquese would turn out to be Rodney Rogers.


This. He totally looked slow footed, low IQ, and no handle. Feels like he is growing into his body and not in a good way...
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Post#1128 » by carey » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:07 am

bhawk wrote:I really did want him to be good... we all did. That Rodney Rogers comp sounds about right.


I'm going to try and not overreact to Summer League. We know Watson is very blunt. He dressed Chriss down on air in an in-game interview the other day. I can only imagine what he has said to Chriss in person. Lets see what he looks like 3 months from now in October.
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Post#1129 » by RaisingArizona » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:14 am

JJ and Bender looked nice. Not worried about Chriss. He needs a heady PG out on the floor to set him up and get him in rhythm. He has 3 months to be in shape. 3.
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Post#1130 » by bhawk » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:15 am

carey wrote:
bhawk wrote:I really did want him to be good... we all did. That Rodney Rogers comp sounds about right.


I'm going to try and not overreact to Summer League. We know Watson is very blunt. He dressed Chriss down on air in an in-game interview the other day. I can only imagine what he has said to Chriss in person. Lets see what he looks like 3 months from now in October.


I do hope that Watson and his teammates have a positive effect over the next 3 months. What concerns me is that it's been 4 games in SL and no imrpovement.

What's wrong with Chriss? Should we put out a missing persons report? Call his mommy or sister? Sorry... I just wish he was playing better.

Lonzo Ball looking great in transition right now. Ugh.
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Post#1131 » by Mulhollanddrive » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:20 am

Chriss will be fine, he's playing without a system at SL.

Lonzo Ball is 2 / 16 from 3 and just shot an airball.
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Post#1132 » by JMac1 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:25 am

I guess we were trying to see if Chriss can play in the post.........nope, experiment over!
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Post#1133 » by kennydorglas » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:29 am

Showing up overweight is BAD. Even Watson was mad about it.
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Post#1134 » by SlovenianDragon » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:36 am

76ers and lakers look like they got a good young core.

Ill bet the 76ers make the playoffs this season.
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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1135 » by MathiasPW » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:42 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Midnight_Suns wrote:Jackson is an absolute beast. If his shot starts falling consistently he will be a perennial all-star. Another draft homerun by McD. Bender also looked fantastic this game.


He looked great, but it was against a winless Jazz team without their best players. Not to knock it, but perennial all star based on one summer league game against that team might be premature. If he does that in a regular season game early, especially against a good team, definitely.


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Post#1136 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:51 am

bhawk wrote:
carey wrote:
bhawk wrote:I really did want him to be good... we all did. That Rodney Rogers comp sounds about right.


I'm going to try and not overreact to Summer League. We know Watson is very blunt. He dressed Chriss down on air in an in-game interview the other day. I can only imagine what he has said to Chriss in person. Lets see what he looks like 3 months from now in October.


I do hope that Watson and his teammates have a positive effect over the next 3 months. What concerns me is that it's been 4 games in SL and no imrpovement.

What's wrong with Chriss? Should we put out a missing persons report? Call his mommy or sister? Sorry... I just wish he was playing better.

Lonzo Ball looking great in transition right now. Ugh.


He did definitely improve on his turnovers today...I think that was a big plus. Others played well. Every player doesn't have to show up every game. Yet he shot 40% which was better than he had so far overall in the first 3 games and 50% from 3 with 2 assists, 2 blocks a steal and only 1 turnover. He was averaging over 7 turnovers a game so far. I'm not disappointed with him at all. Josh was gobbling up the boards, which was great. Cutting down on the sloppiness with turnovers, shooting better overall, with a couple assists, blocks and a steal was a welcome performance. I prefer that to 34% shooting, more rebounds, but just as many turnovers. You lose games when you turn the ball over and shoot terribly. 40% isn't great, but it was an improvement from the first 3 games. Getting to the line and hitting them last game was nice but he still had 7 turnovers.
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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1137 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:53 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:76ers and lakers look like they got a good young core.

Ill bet the 76ers make the playoffs this season.


It shouldn't be that hard. The basically have to beat out teams like Detroit and Orlando. I figure the top 4 from last year make it for sure, and Miami, Charlotte and Milwaukee. After that it's up for grabs, but some teams look really bad so it's likely between Detroit and Philly if they are healthy. I wouldn't be totally surprised if Vogel does better with Orlando though. They are not trying to tank.
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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1138 » by ATTL » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:10 am

When was the earl Watson interview people are citing where he spoke on chriss' weight? Link? Transcript? Gist?
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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1139 » by Midnight_Suns » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:25 am

Lonzo Ball just went ham on Philly. He's looking good.
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Re: Summer League: Vegas baby, vegas. 

Post#1140 » by Mulhollanddrive » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:26 am

That was as impressive as it gets I hate to admit, I didn't think he'd ever score 36 in a game let alone in 3 quarters when his team was down double figures.

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