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OT: Democratic Primary Thread

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Who are you voting for?

Poll ended at Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Joe Biden - I have no idea why, and I also forgot what year it is
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28%
Bernie Sanders - I am an intelligent human being, and understand Sanders is our last hope and America needs him
38
58%
Tulsi Gabbard (Dropped Out) - Ringo Starr is also my favorite Beatle
9
14%
 
Total votes: 65

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1121 » by Stannis » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:40 pm

robillionaire wrote:I attended massive rallies with tens of thousands of people in NYC now the primary is cancelled none of us get to vote. We still pretending this is a democracy? Everyone gets a say in who is running the country? I’m sure Biden supporters don’t care because their guy won and they don’t understand the principle of why people would be upset by this but staggered primaries are asinine. fckin South Carolina chose the democrat nominee and we didn’t even get to vote

I thought the polls were sill staying open??
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1122 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:46 pm

robillionaire wrote:I attended massive rallies with tens of thousands of people in NYC now the primary is cancelled none of us get to vote. We still pretending this is a democracy? Everyone gets a say in who is running the country? I’m sure Biden supporters don’t care because their guy won and they don’t understand the principle of why people would be upset by this but staggered primaries are asinine. fckin South Carolina chose the democrat nominee and we didn’t even get to vote


McConnell and the Republicans are maneuvering all this bailout money and setting austerity conditions to blue states in order to get that money and the Democrats are spending their time with this? I'm fcking done.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1123 » by Jeffrey » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:14 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:But what about exhibiting leadership during the worst crisis we've faced in a century in order to contrast yourself from the ignoramus in the White House? This is his time to shine and show he's the leader we need. If you're afraid that by entering the fray you'll do damage to your campaign, then you shouldn't be running for President.


Good point. That's what I thought Bernie was doing. Of course, mainstream media turned it around and did an "omg Bernie said the fword" headline.

Anyways, I guess we are just to assume Biden will act once he's president. But you just can't expect voters to assume these kinds of things in November. They want to see actions. But all they saw was Hidin' Biden.


I think Sanders genuinely likes Biden. He has no love for Hillary and took it all the way to the end. When he saw that there was very little chance of him winning, he could have stayed on but Biden and Sanders both made a deal (Task force on some large items and Biden backing up regarding free tuition for students going to Public Universities.)
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1124 » by Phish Tank » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:06 pm

for everyone mad about NY cancelling the presidential primary:

If you want revenge, you know what you need to do now.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1125 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:02 am

Phish Tank wrote:for everyone mad about NY cancelling the presidential primary:

If you want revenge, you know what you need to do now.


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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1126 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:03 am

Warren: "Bernie said women aren't good!"
MSM: *endless coverage*
Biden: *literally r-a_p-e_s someone*
MSM: *silence*

And just to show you I'm a man of my word, I found out not too long ago that a childhood friend of mine - one of my 3 dearest friends - engaged in sexually assaultive behavior towards someone who I really liked and was a real sweet person. It broke my heart that he did that to her. I'm done with him. We don't talk. I lost all respect for him. He blamed it on cocaine. FOH.

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1127 » by HighRyzer83 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:07 am

Phish Tank wrote:for everyone mad about NY cancelling the presidential primary:

If you want revenge, you know what you need to do now.

What??
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1128 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:37 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:
Phish Tank wrote:for everyone mad about NY cancelling the presidential primary:

If you want revenge, you know what you need to do now.

What??


"Tear da motherfcker down!" :lol:
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1129 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:42 am

Here's poll on what Americans want. They want M4A during this pandemic 76% to 13%

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How about come out in support of giving it to children right away?

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1130 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:33 pm

Phish Tank wrote:for everyone mad about NY cancelling the presidential primary:

If you want revenge, you know what you need to do now.


I think the scary thing about this is that it could set a precedent for Republican governors to fool around with election rules "to protect public health." The Dems had an OBVIOUS solution which is converting to a mail-in election. It'd increase turnout which helps the party, set a precedent for how to handle health fears and avoid alienating the wing of the party most likely to become disillusioned with the process.

Instead, I could absolutely picture Republicans using this precedent to cite "health concerns" as a reason to impose curfews that impact turn out in reverse. Now they have cover...bad faith as it may be to abuse...what aboutism is built on this crap.

Nevermind the fact that it's a blatant middle finger to progressives and probably serves moreso to target down ballot incumbent challengers like Lindsey Boylan than any actual health concerns (because again, the alternative would have been to enact options which empower voters instead of limiting them). Even the most charitable take on this move leaves it tonedeaf at a time when the establishment is supposed to be convincing the progressive wing to work with them on unifying.

Hopefully it serves the opposite purpose. More progressives show up angry to oust anybody tied to the NY machine while moderate voters stay home content in Biden's election security. But either way, this doesn't help when the general election rolls or with any unifying efforts.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1131 » by Archerbro » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:19 pm

so **** sad, we don't even get to decide a primary. even last time in 2016-it was already decided.

how do we get NY to vote earlier? just like california did this time?
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1132 » by Dantares » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:32 pm

WOW more corroboration for Tara Reade's sexual assault claim

https://www.businessinsider.com/former-neighbor-corroborates-joe-bidens-accuser-2020-4

I think Biden is done guys. whats worse for the DNC having the face of the democratic be a guy with questionable cognitive decline and possible sexual assault allegations or nominating Bernie?

Is there a way that the DNC can wiggle their way out of nominating Bernie? its going to take some major fukkery to do that. and if they do that the Bernie supporters will boycott the vote.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1133 » by Stannis » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:52 pm

Dantares wrote:WOW more corroboration for Tara Reade's sexual assault claim

https://www.businessinsider.com/former-neighbor-corroborates-joe-bidens-accuser-2020-4

I think Biden is done guys. whats worse for the DNC having the face of the democratic be a guy with questionable cognitive decline and possible sexual assault allegations or nominating Bernie?

Is there a way that the DNC can wiggle their way out of nominating Bernie? its going to take some major fukkery to do that. and if they do that the Bernie supporters will boycott the vote.

First things first, Biden has to exit. This can't be your nominee... If Hillary's emails lost her last election, there's no way these sexual assault allegations don't lose Biden this race. When you have two very questionable candidates fighting for presidency, that's exactly what makes voters stay home and say "all politicians are crooks". This obviously favors the GOP.

Anyways, Biden will announce a "VP" candidate soon. But it will really be the presidential candidate as Biden will drop out. This might be why it's taking so long. He's not picking a VP, but the establishment is picking a presidential candidate. They can't go with Kamela or Stacy now because they lack experience.

It will 100% not be Bernie. We saw everything that was done to take him out of the race. They aren't going to support him now.

It's a shame, because I think a Bernie-Warren run will be a sure thing. DNC/Establishment democrats really only care one thing, and that's beating Trump. So Bernie/Warren would get those votes no matter what. But they will also get votes from people who don't identify with a party. And most of all, M4A is sounding really good right now.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1134 » by Stannis » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:56 pm

This is one of the reasons I wish Bernie stayed in the race. Biden was bound to fumble. Everybody saw it coming. We can't pretend it wasn't going to happen. He's not a child. We can't coddle him.

Another reason I wanted Bernie to stay, I wanted the DNC to force mail-in ballots for this primary. They should have worked hard to get that done. Because come November, Covid-19 will reduce in-person voting which always favors the GOP. And implementing some form of remote voting would stop the idea of delaying the election.

Cancelling the NY primary sets a precedent to cancel the November GE.

How dumb can we really be??? Is Trump actually beating us or are we beating ourselves?
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1135 » by Stannis » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:07 pm

Bernie should withdraw his endorsement

I'm really convinced DNC is trying to lose on purpose. They just pissed of millions of voters in NY. They are setting a precedent to cancel/delay the elections. They are putting a gaffe machine with too much baggage.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1136 » by GONYK » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:50 pm

If Biden drops out, he gets to decide who his delegates go to.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1137 » by GONYK » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:07 pm

Read on Twitter
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It's interesting that the political class doesn't think that Biden is in trouble yet
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1138 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:48 pm

Stannis wrote:
Dantares wrote:WOW more corroboration for Tara Reade's sexual assault claim

https://www.businessinsider.com/former-neighbor-corroborates-joe-bidens-accuser-2020-4

I think Biden is done guys. whats worse for the DNC having the face of the democratic be a guy with questionable cognitive decline and possible sexual assault allegations or nominating Bernie?

Is there a way that the DNC can wiggle their way out of nominating Bernie? its going to take some major fukkery to do that. and if they do that the Bernie supporters will boycott the vote.

First things first, Biden has to exit. This can't be your nominee... If Hillary's emails lost her last election, there's no way these sexual assault allegations don't lose Biden this race. When you have two very questionable candidates fighting for presidency, that's exactly what makes voters stay home and say "all politicians are crooks". This obviously favors the GOP.

Anyways, Biden will announce a "VP" candidate soon. But it will really be the presidential candidate as Biden will drop out. This might be why it's taking so long. He's not picking a VP, but the establishment is picking a presidential candidate. They can't go with Kamela or Stacy now because they lack experience.

It will 100% not be Bernie. We saw everything that was done to take him out of the race. They aren't going to support him now.

It's a shame, because I think a Bernie-Warren run will be a sure thing. DNC/Establishment democrats really only care one thing, and that's beating Trump. So Bernie/Warren would get those votes no matter what. But they will also get votes from people who don't identify with a party. And most of all, M4A is sounding really good right now.


Then add in all the other stuff like cutting medicare/social security, the bankruptcy bill, the crime bill, and his weakened mental state. "But he's not Trump" can only get you so far. I don't know what the Democrats are so afraid of when the polls are so clear on these issues. Oh yeah, they lose their power and money. Never mind.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1139 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:49 pm

GONYK wrote:If Biden drops out, he gets to decide who his delegates go to.


Amy Klobuchar? :)
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#1140 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:52 pm

GONYK wrote:
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It's interesting that the political class doesn't think that Biden is in trouble yet


Stacy Abrams has no real experience and Georgia isn't a swing state (yet). Kamala could've been a real possibility but she's also not from a swing state. If Whitmer was black, she'd be perfect but she's a lily white as you can be but she's from an important swing state. :dontknow:

Bernie/Nina Turner(Ohio)/Killa Mike/Dr. Cornell West

BOOM.

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After Biden drops out, invite Clyde to come back :lol:

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