Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread

[tkells34]

Cliff Levingston posted it in another thread, but from the Bulls, Cliff Levingston would offer Omer Asik, Ronnie Brewer, CJ Watson, Keith Bogans and the Charlotte 2012 1st round pick. Brewer is a good defender off the bench until he expires next season (if you want him to; team option). Watson is a good back up PG even though you don't need him and also has a team option after next year. Bogans has a team option this year. The Charlotte 1st is protected but will almost certainly deliver a lottery pick in the next few years. Omer Asik is young, huge, athletic and already a very good post defender; he'll be an immediate anchor for your D while also having plenty of room to improve further.

Yuck! I like the big and the pick but we can't take on non-shooting wings to play with Jrue and Evan.

Watson is a great shooter and Brewer would be your best perimeter defender. Both are expiring contracts anyway mostly included as salary filler, so using those two as a reason for rejecting a deal is pretty stupid.

Watson WON'T play and he plays like a poor man's Lou Will. And Brewer has not outside shot at all. So what are you talking about w/ my reasoning. We could use his D but he could be picked up for the vets min in a year anyway. You're overvauling your scrubs dude. I wouldn't trade Iguodala for those dudes. it's not enough.

[76ciology]

LOL.

Thunders won't trade Ibaka. It's harder to replace Ibaka than Iguodala. They already have Sefalosha, who's a cheaper version of Iguodala. They don't need Iggy's athleticism and versatility with their talented roster.

Two trades for a center that makes most sense is the Bynum or Kaman for Iguodala trade. I just doubt that the Lakers would do the deal if they can't get atleast another center in return. Maybe Iguodala + Hawes for Bynum.

[tkells34]

Thanks for the input! Figure I was more right on this idea than many other Magic fans. Not gonna be a dreamer and think he can join Dwight in Orlando. So thanks.

As for KrazySixersD... Dwight is not the problem in Orlando. Funny though.

ya well i completely disagree... im in the minority but i dont care... you guys lost everytime he put up huge numbers vs atlanta.. his numbers are irrelevant to me on offense because it comes with a price.

he is the most immature player in the entire NBA.. leading the league in techs again.. he is a dirty player on top of it who tries to act like a clean goody goody when hes the exact opposite.

he is not a leader, at all... he is a blackhole when the ball goes down to him. his points come at the expense of his teamates, and come with massive turnover numbers

the only non overated thing about him is his defense, but you can get a young shotblocker and tons of other stuff in return for him and be better off. had you kept gortat and done it you guys would be set like i said....

now, he'll be gone one way or another.. and everyone will blame all the players that were brought in to play with him, multiple past all stars... yet it will ultimately be dwights fault

Yo I like Dwight but you're right about his offense. He needs to learn how to pass the ball better and devlop the ablity to move without the ball. He is a one trick pony on offense but I'd still take him and develop other things around him, like a wing who ain't 35 years old.lol

[LongLiveHinkie]

I'd rather maximize my value for Iguodala. The league doesn't have many good centers, and trading for one that may not be way better than you can get elsewhere would be a mistake.

I'd first look to trade him for a scoring 3 that can spread the floor and look to address center in the draft or with the MLE.

[sixerswillrule]

I would take Ibaka for Iguodala without hesitation. Thunder wouldn't go for it, though.

[tkells34]

Ibaka? Really why in the world woulld they do that? I'd be all over Bynum. Gasol too but not w/ Jrue included. You need more shooters though if you add Gasol, but with better players it's easier to attract better playersin the NBA.

[sixerswillrule]

Ibaka? Really why in the world woulld they do that?

Who is 'they''?

[philly262]

I'd rather get a 20/10 center in Gasol, his defense is suspect, but it's not as bad as Hawes or Kaman.

If we got Gasol, we could go get a guy like Battier for the MLE, and have a defensive swingman at 3, who can also hit the 3. I don't think Thad gets resigned myself, I think some team overpays for him and we let him walk or we do a sign and trade.

We could get another back up big a guy like Wilcox for the LLE, and with the 16th pick we take either another swingman, a guy like Honeycutt, or one of the Morris twins.

Our 2011 starting lineup

Jrue
Turner
Battier
Brand
Gasol

a bench of Meeks, Lou, Nocioni, Wilcox, maybe Honeycutt

[PhilasFinest]

I dont even kno if Pau is a realistic option...but if he is, i dont think we could pass him up if it was for Iguodala.

I dont care if he is getting old,or soft etc...he will turn 31 during the season...and is one of the best bigs in the game. hes got 3-5 years still of solid basketball left in the tank. If u added Gasol, and subtracted Hawes.... we'd be a better team...no doubt about it.

in the end...i highly doubt Pau is a sixer anyways.

In an Iverson trade, we got miller,joe smith and 2 1st round picks..one which we pissed away.

In a stackhouse trade, we got 2 solid role playing starters that fit needs and filled roles(Theo ratliff,McKie)

i doubt were gonna set the world on fire with an Iguodala deal...but ill keep my fingers crossed

[Point-God]

If u added Gasol, and subtracted Hawes.... we'd be a better team...no doubt about it.

Did you forget to subtract Iguodala?

I'll do you one better, if we added Dwight Howard and subtracted Brand we'd be a better team.

[76ciology]

Pau Gasol? D12?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimgRedLkkU[/youtube]

[jjtreyball]

Orl trades jameer jj Anderson and 1st rd pick
Orl get monta Ellis and brand

Gs trades Ellis and biedrins
Gs gets iggy and jj

Philly trades iggy and brand
Philly gets biedrins jameer and Anderson and 1st rd pick
Philly trades away bad contracts & gets nice pieces

[SJSF]

Orl trades jameer jj Anderson and 1st rd pick
Orl get monta Ellis and brand

Gs trades Ellis and biedrins
Gs gets iggy and jj

Philly trades iggy and brand
Philly gets biedrins jameer and Anderson and 1st rd pick
Philly trades away bad contracts & gets nice pieces

just stop

[F-Stop]

I dont even kno if Pau is a realistic option...but if he is, i dont think we could pass him up if it was for Iguodala.

I dont care if he is getting old,or soft etc...he will turn 31 during the season...and is one of the best bigs in the game. hes got 3-5 years still of solid basketball left in the tank. If u added Gasol, and subtracted Hawes.... we'd be a better team...no doubt about it.

in the end...i highly doubt Pau is a sixer anyways.

In an Iverson trade, we got miller,joe smith and 2 1st round picks..one which we pissed away.

In a stackhouse trade, we got 2 solid role playing starters that fit needs and filled roles(Theo ratliff,McKie)

i doubt were gonna set the world on fire with an Iguodala deal...but ill keep my fingers crossed

I think he is a realistic option. S&T Hawes,Thad.. throw in Lou to replace Fisher and give them this years 1st. Hawes backs up Bynum. Thad lets them drop Artest..

I spin it like this.. Pau is not hungry anymore so he needs to go.. We keep our starters together os we can compete. Thats what Collins would want.

[tk76]

Orl trades jameer jj Anderson and 1st rd pick
Orl get monta Ellis and brand

Gs trades Ellis and biedrins
Gs gets iggy and jj

Philly trades iggy and brand
Philly gets biedrins jameer and Anderson and 1st rd pick
Philly trades away bad contracts & gets nice pieces

Let me guess- you are an Orlando fan

Sorry, that deal only works for Orlando. You are hugely over-valuing Orlando's players and late 1st rounder. And Philly has Jrue, why in the world would they want Jameer?

[jjtreyball]

Orl trades jameer jj Anderson and 1st rd pick
Orl get monta Ellis and brand

Gs trades Ellis and biedrins
Gs gets iggy and jj

Philly trades iggy and brand
Philly gets biedrins jameer and Anderson and 1st rd pick
Philly trades away bad contracts & gets nice pieces

Let me guess- you are an Orlando fan

Sorry, that deal only works for Orlando. You are hugely over-valuing Orlando's players and late 1st rounder. And Philly has Jrue, why in the world would they want Jameer?

Lol I am magic but warriors fans love this deal and they would be willig to throw some picks and cash at Philly same with Orlando but the trade doesn't have to be jameer it can be Brandon bass and orton and this allows Philly to dump brand and iggy get a solid center Ryan Anderson is a solid young player still on his rookie contract and jameer/or bass would be solid options (jameer off the bench) and bass would prolly start if u got rid of brand idk what do u think about it now?

[KrazySixersD]

i dont like gasol... but if you can get gasol for iguodala you have to do that.. the only center in the east hed struggle against is howard, but who doesnt struggle vs him? infact its better to play orlando with howard getting the ball more.

gasol can easily play center in the east, easily

and iguodala's replacement of either turner, or signing an athletic defending wing is really not that much of a downgrade considering it allows turner to start and develope, who will have a better offensive game than iguodala, and gasol is better by a mile offensively than hawes, and is better defensively as well... plus hes a big name guy and gets calls

[F-Stop]

Orl trades jameer jj Anderson and 1st rd pick
Orl get monta Ellis and brand

Gs trades Ellis and biedrins
Gs gets iggy and jj

Philly trades iggy and brand
Philly gets biedrins jameer and Anderson and 1st rd pick
Philly trades away bad contracts & gets nice pieces

Counter-offer
Dwight and Jameer for S & T Hawes .Lou & Speights plus filler . We should also swap 1st

You get rid of D12 who wont re-sign and get 3 guys who are young ,athletic, skilled.

[tk76]

Orl trades jameer jj Anderson and 1st rd pick
Orl get monta Ellis and brand

Gs trades Ellis and biedrins
Gs gets iggy and jj

Philly trades iggy and brand
Philly gets biedrins jameer and Anderson and 1st rd pick
Philly trades away bad contracts & gets nice pieces

Let me guess- you are an Orlando fan

Sorry, that deal only works for Orlando. You are hugely over-valuing Orlando's players and late 1st rounder. And Philly has Jrue, why in the world would they want Jameer?

Lol I am magic but warriors fans love this deal and they would be willig to throw some picks and cash at Philly same with Orlando but the trade doesn't have to be jameer it can be Brandon bass and orton and this allows Philly to dump brand and iggy get a solid center Ryan Anderson is a solid young player still on his rookie contract and jameer/or bass would be solid options (jameer off the bench) and bass would prolly start if u got rid of brand idk what do u think about it now?

Well I can understand it from the GSW perspective. They dump a terrible contract in Biedrins and bring back talented players who help their team.

But from the Sixers perspective, trading away Iguodala and Brand only would work if they were not bring back terrible, long contracts like Biedrins. Who would want to clear longterm contracts of quality players just to bring back other long term deals? They only clear about 10M, which does not really efect their cap situation one way or the other. That means you get worse now and don't have added flexibility to get better later.

[F-Stop]

i dont like gasol... but if you can get gasol for iguodala you have to do that.. the only center in the east hed struggle against is howard, but who doesnt struggle vs him? infact its better to play orlando with howard getting the ball more.

gasol can easily play center in the east, easily

and iguodala's replacement of either turner, or signing an athletic defending wing is really not that much of a downgrade considering it allows turner to start and develope, who will have a better offensive game than iguodala, and gasol is better by a mile offensively than hawes, and is better defensively as well... plus hes a big name guy and gets calls

Don't see why it has to be Iggy..
per the rumors/facts.. Pau didn't show up for the play-offs.. I take it he is satisfied with 2 rings as the 2nd best player and needs to be "The Guy" for additional motivation. Pau didn't play this summer so he deosent have Odom's excuse.
Pau and Kobe don't get along. - Somebody gotta go and normally you ship a guy to the other conference when that occurs.
Magic advises to break up the team and get more athletic- Aren't many guys who can play and are as athletic as Lou - Thad.. I know Hawes doesent fit the description but his skill-set fits with the triangle and giving up our 1st should'nt hurts us.