OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[Knick4Real]

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So, wait a minute:

As soon as they let Kyrie back in the building, not only is he infected but he likely takes down KD too who also goes into protocols.

Oh, karma...

[Clyde_Style]

He's not into it. He's looking to make it align with his new world religion of MRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ORANGE CLOWN! I forgot more over my morning **** about epidemiology than this person knows.

We've had some appalling MAGA posters over the years, but you are truly inept and bungle everything you post. Only you would try to invoke Trump in regards to covid on a day when a Congressional report was released detailing his efforts to sabotage efforts to deal with covid.

Perhaps you wouldn't be so triggered if you actually had any love for freedom and were appropriately appalled by that man's attempt to overthrow a free and fair election. So don't play in the sandbox with us. You're just not that intelligent.

And we definitely don't need anymore of your assertions that grandma and grandpa are collateral damage, but there's no real danger to the rest of us. That's what your stats were all about you heartless ghoul. You don't get to tell us whose lives are valuable to whom

House oversight committee releases report detailing efforts of Trump administration officials to 'undermine' Covid-19 efforts in US

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/17/politics/house-committee-trump-covid-19/index.html

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Trump administration officials made "deliberate efforts to undermine the nation's coronavirus response for political purposes," the House Select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis led by Democrats said in a report released Friday.

The committee, which spent months working to interview former Trump officials, said the administration worked to undermine the public health response to the coronavirus pandemic by blocking officials from speaking publicly, watering down testing guidance and attempting to interfere with other public health guidance.

Many pieces of the report were a summation of documents and interviews they've released throughout the year, but the report also outlined new examples where health guidance was adapted despite officials' concerns about the potential harmful effects of the changes.

In one instance, Dr. Jay Butler, the deputy director for infectious diseases at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told the committee he was upset and concerned about guidance he was directed to update in May 2020 for faith communities. He said he feared that some of the altered guidance about masking and other church practices could potentially put lives at risk.

He wrote in an email about the change that he was "very troubled on this Sunday morning that there will be people who will get sick and perhaps die because of what we were forced to do."

"I was doing a lot of soul searching about whether or not I should have agreed to even make the change in the document," Butler told the committee when asked about his words. "Clearly, it was a directive, but that was a real struggle as I felt like what had been done was not good public health practice."

Butler told the committee that while he wasn't aware of any examples where the guidance had adversely impacted the health of Americans, "that concern will haunt me for some time."

The report also chronicled deep frustration from then-White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx, who at one point was so upset about a meeting that included doctors whom she called part of a "fringe group" that she told colleagues she would not attend.

"I can't be part of this with these people who believe in herd immunity," Birx wrote in an email released by the committee. That approach has been widely decried by public health experts, who note that a previous infection doesn't guarantee immunity and who say such an approach would most certainly have led to even more hospitalizations and deaths. "These are people who believe that all the curves are predetermined and mitigation is irrelevant -- they are a fringe group without grounding in epidemics, public health or on the ground common sense experience. I am happy to go out of town or whatever gives the WH cover," she wrote.

The report also laid out how one briefing so angered former President Donald Trump that CDC officials were blocked by the Trump administration for more than three months from conducting public briefings.

One official, then-CDC National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases Director Dr. Nancy Messonnier, told the committee Trump was "angered" after she gave a briefing on February 25, 2020, that warned about the danger of Covid-19. She told the select subcommittee she felt "upset" after she received calls from then-CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield and then-HHS Secretary Alex Azar about it.

CNN has reached out to Redfield and Azar for comment.

Another official told the committee the CDC wanted to hold a briefing on the recommendation to wear cloth face masks and inform the public about pediatric cases and deaths from Covid-19 but the Trump administration blocked the request. The committee revealed in its report former CDC Principal Deputy Director Dr. Anne Schuchat said "many of us" in CDC felt they couldn't speak out about the science of Covid-19 because, the report summarized, White House decisions were being driven by politics.

Another example of weakened guidance in the report is from Birx, who confirmed to the committee that Dr. Scott Atlas, a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, was involved in changing testing guidance to advise against testing most asymptomatic people even if they were exposed to the virus -- something the report said that is contrary to science-based recommendations. Trump brought on Atlas to the coronavirus task force after seeing him appear on Fox.

CNN has reached out to Atlas for comment.

The committee wrote that Birx stated in her interview that changes made on testing guidance for people who were asymptomatic "were made specifically to reduce the amount of testing being conducted," the report said. Fewer tests served to "obscure how rapidly the virus was spreading across the country," it said.

"Trump Administration officials engaged in a staggering pattern of political interference in the pandemic response and failed to heed early warnings about the looming crisis," the committee said in its summary. "These decisions placed countless American lives at risk, undermined the nation's public health institutions, and contributed to one of the worst failures of leadership in American history."

[BKlutch]

Somehow, The Brooklyn Basketball Team wants to be accepted as a part of NYC. But they just brought in an anti-vax saboteur to infect KD and bring his special type of negative effects to the developing team unity. They announced all the players were on board with bringing him back part time, but who really believes that a guy who needs to play well to earn his next contract is happy that one player will be allowed to disrupt things and destroy the team spirit they've been trying to build. I don't believe it for a moment. they just decided they won't win with KD and Harden, so they are gambling on winning more with FEK (Flat Earth Kyrie), even as a part time player.

Given the negative effects on coping with a resurgent pandemic and the negative effects he's already having on the team, and the likelihood that he will do further craziness in the rest of the season, I think that Brooklyn's brain trust have lost their bearings. Very sad, and I don't think they really will ever claim to be a New York team.

[Zenzibar]

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Bro, that Omni-variant is all dubious IMO. Omni

To me it just comes down to opening up all the venues to vaccinated folks and not warning them enough that they can catch and spread it.

GLOBALLY, massive amounts of vaccinated people have been gathering indoors at venues, restaurants and schools. All it took was one spread from a few asymptomatics and bing bong.

All the vaccinated radicals pushing and pushing, without fkn being realistic, that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM CATCHING COVID or any of it's variants

What it does do is prevent grave symthoms which is awesome, but go ahead and let's freak out becaue we didn't not see this coming.

[Im Coming Home]

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Bro, that Omni-variant is all dubious IMO. Omni

To me it just comes down to opening up all the venues to vaccinated folks and not warning them enough that they can catch and spread it.

GLOBALLY, massive amounts of vaccinated people have been gathering indoors at venues, restaurants and schools. All it took was one spread from a few asymptomatics and bing bong.

All the vaccinated radicals pushing and pushing, without fkn being realistic, that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM CATCHING COVID or any of it's variants

What it does do is prevent grave symthoms which is awesome, but go ahead and let's freak out becaue we didn't not see this coming.

I mean it DOES make you far less likely to get it, no vaccine is ever 100% full proof at preventing an infection of something.

Honestly I think in a month or two, once scientists conclude their research on this new Omni variant, we could end up seeing the end to this. If it truly is far less deadly but far more contagious, and with vaccination numbers not all that bad.. they could let it just run rampant and end up with some form of herd immunity that the crazy anti-maskers were clamoring for with the much deadlier previous 2 variants.

obviously right now governments are freaking out and trying to be precautious because its still very unknown as a variant, but early reports seem hopeful to me.

[Zenzibar]

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Bro, that Omni-variant is all dubious IMO. Omni

To me it just comes down to opening up all the venues to vaccinated folks and not warning them enough that they can catch and spread it.

GLOBALLY, massive amounts of vaccinated people have been gathering indoors at venues, restaurants and schools. All it took was one spread from a few asymptomatics and bing bong.

All the vaccinated radicals pushing and pushing, without fkn being realistic, that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM CATCHING COVID or any of it's variants

What it does do is prevent grave symthoms which is awesome, but go ahead and let's freak out becaue we didn't not see this coming.

I mean it DOES make you far less likely to get it, no vaccine is ever 100% full proof at preventing an infection of something.

Honestly I think in a month or two, once scientists conclude their research on this new Omni variant, we could end up seeing the end to this. If it truly is far less deadly but far more contagious, and with vaccination numbers not all that bad.. they could let it just run rampant and end up with some form of herd immunity that the crazy anti-maskers were clamoring for with the much deadlier previous 2 variants.

obviously right now governments are freaking out and trying to be precautious because its still very unknown as a variant, but early reports seem hopeful to me.

People, stop with this vaccine immunity thought process. Even vaccinated athletes are catching Covid, it's the same fkn COvid from 2020, just milder symptoms due to the vaccine, that's it.
THE VACCINE DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS LIKELY TO GET IT! That thought process is why this sht is blowing up.

Get your vaccines, keep the strong symptoms at bey, but don't fool yourselves into this I am pretty covid impurvious. These vaccines are failing to do that right now, in the future maybe.

[Im Coming Home]

Bro, that Omni-variant is all dubious IMO. Omni

To me it just comes down to opening up all the venues to vaccinated folks and not warning them enough that they can catch and spread it.

GLOBALLY, massive amounts of vaccinated people have been gathering indoors at venues, restaurants and schools. All it took was one spread from a few asymptomatics and bing bong.

All the vaccinated radicals pushing and pushing, without fkn being realistic, that the vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM CATCHING COVID or any of it's variants

What it does do is prevent grave symthoms which is awesome, but go ahead and let's freak out becaue we didn't not see this coming.

I mean it DOES make you far less likely to get it, no vaccine is ever 100% full proof at preventing an infection of something.

Honestly I think in a month or two, once scientists conclude their research on this new Omni variant, we could end up seeing the end to this. If it truly is far less deadly but far more contagious, and with vaccination numbers not all that bad.. they could let it just run rampant and end up with some form of herd immunity that the crazy anti-maskers were clamoring for with the much deadlier previous 2 variants.

obviously right now governments are freaking out and trying to be precautious because its still very unknown as a variant, but early reports seem hopeful to me.

People, stop with this vaccine immunity thought process. Even vaccinated athletes are catching Covid, it's the same fkn COvid from 2020, just milder symptoms due to the vaccine, that's it.
THE VACCINE DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS LIKELY TO GET IT! That thought process is why this sht is blowing up.

Get your vaccines, keep the strong symptoms at bey, but don't fool yourselves into this I am pretty covid impurvious. These vaccines are failing to do that right now, in the future maybe.

It literally does make you less likely to get it. It doesn't 100% prevent it. Maybe others have fooled themselves into thinking they're covid impervious, but I didn't.

And its literally not the same covid from 2020, the Omnicron VARIANT is showing to be less deadly, even those who are unvaccinated. The vaccine PLUS this new variant, could very well be the end of the pandemic, and the start of acting like its just like the flu where we get a booster every winter. They're researching the effects of this variant as we speak. If its more contagious but less deadly, that could be key to some form of herd immunity + vaccines. We could go back to fairly normal life hopefully once they conclude their research on this variant.

[Zenzibar]

I am TRIPLE vaxxed, wear a mask religiously, wash hands frequently, socially distance when possible, all of that. Yet, I tested positive earlier this week -- and so did a dozen of my coworkers.

Omicron is running through NYC like water and it doesn't give a sh*t about the vaccine. Pfizer and Moderna are no match for it. Granted, the vax was not meant to prevent getting COVID and I'm thankful I almost certainly won't be hospitalized or on my death bed. But, Omicron is so contagious that it's not a matter of IF you will get it, but WHEN you will get it!

Stay safe!

The vaccine has no sterilizing properties.

Could the mass multi "vaccination" campaign be responsible for a weakened immune response from humans when encountering other germs and microbes?

Is it really the theory that people being masked up for so long made them more susceptible? I would agree with that if a larger percentage of the population were actually wearing effective masks and actually wearing them properly. It's almost 2022 and I still see people wearing scarfs, neck condoms, and handkerchiefs. I still see people wearing their masks below their noses. And I still see people wearing masks that are filthy. Dumb Americans can't grasp the fact that masks are filters and they need to be replaced more often. I'm not buying the logic. I'm also not buying the idea that the flu just disappeared or that the testing is accurate or that the numbers haven't been fudged and altered in every corner of data collection.

But what has surprised me the most about this pandemic is how Americans all of a sudden have an unwavering trust in one of the most crooked governments in the history of modern civilization.

To further emphasize the ineffectiveness of said vaccine.. two doses weren't enough to illicit a strong immune response from children who have the strongest immune responses so they are going to start recommending a third dose. To put that in perspective.. a third helping of spike protein to see if an adequate immune response can be triggered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/17/pfizer-vaccine-young-children-third-shot/

And however crazy these last 20 months have been remember the aftermath is going to be way worse.

I've been to the garden twice this year and once in the arena 90% of the people, all who are vacccinated have no masks on. Again it's the vaccinated that are spreading this sht, which is where the irony lies.

[god shammgod]

I mean it DOES make you far less likely to get it, no vaccine is ever 100% full proof at preventing an infection of something.

Honestly I think in a month or two, once scientists conclude their research on this new Omni variant, we could end up seeing the end to this. If it truly is far less deadly but far more contagious, and with vaccination numbers not all that bad.. they could let it just run rampant and end up with some form of herd immunity that the crazy anti-maskers were clamoring for with the much deadlier previous 2 variants.

obviously right now governments are freaking out and trying to be precautious because its still very unknown as a variant, but early reports seem hopeful to me.

People, stop with this vaccine immunity thought process. Even vaccinated athletes are catching Covid, it's the same fkn COvid from 2020, just milder symptoms due to the vaccine, that's it.
THE VACCINE DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS LIKELY TO GET IT! That thought process is why this sht is blowing up.

Get your vaccines, keep the strong symptoms at bey, but don't fool yourselves into this I am pretty covid impurvious. These vaccines are failing to do that right now, in the future maybe.

It literally does make you less likely to get it. It doesn't 100% prevent it. Maybe others have fooled themselves into thinking they're covid impervious, but I didn't.

And its literally not the same covid from 2020, the Omnicron VARIANT is showing to be less deadly, even those who are unvaccinated. The vaccine PLUS this new variant, could very well be the end of the pandemic, and the start of acting like its just like the flu where we get a booster every winter. They're researching the effects of this variant as we speak. If its more contagious but less deadly, that could be key to some form of herd immunity + vaccines. We could go back to fairly normal life hopefully once they conclude their research on this variant.

it's all too soon to know for sure but unfortunately, maybe not.

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[Im Coming Home]

People, stop with this vaccine immunity thought process. Even vaccinated athletes are catching Covid, it's the same fkn COvid from 2020, just milder symptoms due to the vaccine, that's it.
THE VACCINE DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS LIKELY TO GET IT! That thought process is why this sht is blowing up.

Get your vaccines, keep the strong symptoms at bey, but don't fool yourselves into this I am pretty covid impurvious. These vaccines are failing to do that right now, in the future maybe.

It literally does make you less likely to get it. It doesn't 100% prevent it. Maybe others have fooled themselves into thinking they're covid impervious, but I didn't.

And its literally not the same covid from 2020, the Omnicron VARIANT is showing to be less deadly, even those who are unvaccinated. The vaccine PLUS this new variant, could very well be the end of the pandemic, and the start of acting like its just like the flu where we get a booster every winter. They're researching the effects of this variant as we speak. If its more contagious but less deadly, that could be key to some form of herd immunity + vaccines. We could go back to fairly normal life hopefully once they conclude their research on this variant.

it's all too soon to know for sure but unfortunately, maybe not.

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[Clyde_Style]

People, stop with this vaccine immunity thought process. Even vaccinated athletes are catching Covid, it's the same fkn COvid from 2020, just milder symptoms due to the vaccine, that's it.
THE VACCINE DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS LIKELY TO GET IT! That thought process is why this sht is blowing up.

Get your vaccines, keep the strong symptoms at bey, but don't fool yourselves into this I am pretty covid impurvious. These vaccines are failing to do that right now, in the future maybe.

It literally does make you less likely to get it. It doesn't 100% prevent it. Maybe others have fooled themselves into thinking they're covid impervious, but I didn't.

And its literally not the same covid from 2020, the Omnicron VARIANT is showing to be less deadly, even those who are unvaccinated. The vaccine PLUS this new variant, could very well be the end of the pandemic, and the start of acting like its just like the flu where we get a booster every winter. They're researching the effects of this variant as we speak. If its more contagious but less deadly, that could be key to some form of herd immunity + vaccines. We could go back to fairly normal life hopefully once they conclude their research on this variant.

it's all too soon to know for sure but unfortunately, maybe not.

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Good tweets

What I was saying, i.e. too early to take positions on what this variant actually is or how it will play out

The rough outline of what Zenzibar said has some truth, but with Omicrom EVERYONE is a potential spreader, not just stadiums packed with vaccinated folks. I’ve been reporting from the field here in FL and with the lack of masking it is a petri dish here, no rock concerts required.

We’re in uncharted waters now. I wish people would drop their certainties about how this will go. It is not a good look, because nobody truly knows

[G_K_F]

They need to stop holding out asymptomatic vaccinated players. This is making no sense at all. Hold out the unvaccinated players if anything.

[Clyde_Style]

They need to stop holding out asymptomatic vaccinated players. This is making no sense at all. Hold out the unvaccinated players if anything.

Silver lost control. This is mismanagement. It should have never been left to teams or municipalities, but a league wide requirement to be vaccinated to be on the roster.

[Kampuchea]

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Everyone just needs to STFU and stop acting like any of you know what’s best. Even the “experts” are baffled and scrambling right now.

Wanna do your part? Wear your mask, don’t be reckless, limit unnecessary interaction, and stop playing the blame game.

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Take a wild guess at which communities got the J&J at a sizably disproportionate rate?

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Yet on the flip side, I’m fairly certain the overwhelming majority of NBA players received Pfizer/Moderna w/ booster. So how does that explain the current outbreak in the league?

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[Clyde_Style]

Everyone just needs to STFU and stop acting like any of you know what’s best. Even the “experts” are baffled and scrambling right now.

Wanna do your part? Wear your mask, don’t be reckless, limit unnecessary interaction, and stop playing the blame game.

That’s where we’re at

Be smart and play it safe because so many won’t

[3toheadmelo]

The vaccines may not be able to stop people from being infected from the variant but it’s still protecting people from getting severe diseases/death which is the ultimate goal.

It’s also necessary for asymptomatic players to enter protocols so they don’t spread COVID. Making them play in large crowds, being in contact with referres, opposing players and coaches is a dumb idea. I appluaud Adam Silver for taking the most precautions