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Post#1141 » by Catchall » Sun Dec 25, 2022 4:51 am

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Catchall wrote:I think Taylor Hendricks could be a top-10 guy. Personally, I like his game more than Brandon Miller. He's much more explosive in the paint.

He should be if the trajectory continues. Him and Miller have a number of similarities in terms of profile but also some notable differences. As you mentioned, Hendricks is more explosive but also stronger which makes him a better finisher and probably a better quarterback or help defender around the rim. But Miller has more on-ball upside as he's a better ball handler and passer. If I drafted both of them as purely off-ball players I'd also be inclined to take Hendricks – but if I believe that Miller could be a secondary or tertiary on-ball creator on the floor (which I think is very possible) then that might give him the edge.


I agree that Hendricks is an off-ball wing, like a better version of Covington.
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Post#1142 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:30 am

Kentucky is a graveyard for wings but I just want to say Liv is actually rebounding nicely, nothing too eye popping but his averages are at a good level now (51/47/83) but the volume and usage is still nonexistent

hard to make a case for the first round unless you weigh RSCI rankings high in your system but is probably a decent 2nd round bet at this point
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Post#1143 » by God Squad » Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:27 pm

Catchall wrote:I think Taylor Hendricks could be a top-10 guy. Personally, I like his game more than Brandon Miller. He's much more explosive in the paint and has quicker feet.


I think Hendricks or Max Lewis will be this years Jalen Williams. A guy whos going to get buzz from the media/draft heads and it'll carry to the draft. I like him, very productive for his age and will fit an NBA archetype.
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Post#1144 » by Onus » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:01 pm

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Catchall wrote:I think Taylor Hendricks could be a top-10 guy. Personally, I like his game more than Brandon Miller. He's much more explosive in the paint and has quicker feet.


I think Hendricks or Max Lewis will be this years Jalen Williams. A guy whos going to get buzz from the media/draft heads and it'll carry to the draft. I like him, very productive for his age and will fit an NBA archetype.

I hope one of these 2 are available for the warriors.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1145 » by WargamesX » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:52 am

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God Squad wrote:
Catchall wrote:I think Taylor Hendricks could be a top-10 guy. Personally, I like his game more than Brandon Miller. He's much more explosive in the paint and has quicker feet.


I think Hendricks or Max Lewis will be this years Jalen Williams. A guy whos going to get buzz from the media/draft heads and it'll carry to the draft. I like him, very productive for his age and will fit an NBA archetype.

I hope one of these 2 are available for the warriors.


They should be. This draft is strong enough that I could see them both falling into the 20’s, they look like first round prospects but considering who they are playing against it doesn’t mean they are first round prospects. This early hype/analytics hopefully will get them an invite to the draft combine. From there both their first round hopes will depend on what they do at the combine. They both look good but they both need to continue to look good against better competition. Now if they dominate the combine and workouts then year top 10.
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Post#1146 » by clyde21 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:05 am

we'll see if the Warriors will even be picking that low, right now we're tied for 11th and Steph will still miss at least about two more weeks, and even with Steph we were barely hovering around .500.

no idea where the Dubs finish, but Lewis should be in range regardless probably and depending on how high Hendricks too, although not sure either would be my top choices for the Dubs at this point as much as I like both.
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Post#1147 » by The-Power » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:04 am

Arterio Morris with the second double-digit scoring game in a row. He scored when the game was already over but still good to see him turning it on.
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Post#1148 » by The Moose » Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:08 pm

clyde21 wrote:Clowney's good

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trying to figure out a potential comp for Clowney

Christian Wood type maybe?
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Post#1149 » by HotelVitale » Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:10 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:I know this has been talked about before, just repeating how dumb it is that the Thompson twins went and played in OTE. With the G League and with NIL in college, I have a hard time thinking its financially the smartest route to go. There is also zero marketing going that route as well. I just dont see the positives.

All I think is its a way for guys to make some money while beating up on horrible opposition so their stats can look alright pre draft? But I dont think any front offices are that dumb to buy that. I honestly just dont get it.


i don't know if front offices "buy" it, rather i just don't think they care when it really comes down to it. don't get me wrong, i think they would rather guys like that play real competition, but when push comes to shove the thompson twins will be drafted in that 5 or 6 range (or even higher).

until guys get punished - meaning they drop significantly in the draft - they will keep playing in crap leagues like OTE or just completely sitting out like Sharpe or Dante Exum back in the day.

lets face it, playing in OTE is basically the same as just sitting out. and GMs have shown they don't care - hell in some ways, it benefits them. rather than getting exposed in college or g league, they get to dominate ****.


Dont think it’s that straightforward. Players who actually have big issues as prospects might be able to hide that in bad leagues (like Jaden Hardy last year) but players who were actually really promising might lose some stock by not showing that (like Sharpe last year, looks like he could’ve been easy top 5 if he played college), and others who played pretty badly in weird leagues still maintain value because they still showed special abilities (thinking about Lamelo). Scouts are going to work with info they have and agents are aware of various risks and playing with that.

I do think things could get weird within the next couple years with this but I don’t know if it’s causes real problems yet. Feels like OTE is enough to show that the Thompson twins are the prospects most thought they were, and they wouldn’t have to be stars on college to go where they’re expected to go.

Also doubt that scouts/FO staff are really going to ‘punish’ players in order to discipline them because it’s not in their interest to do so—their game is guessing the best players for their team, and if all teams are handicapped by less knowledge about a player it’s a neutral thing.
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Post#1150 » by Hal14 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:41 pm

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Onus wrote:
God Squad wrote:I think Hendricks or Max Lewis will be this years Jalen Williams. A guy whos going to get buzz from the media/draft heads and it'll carry to the draft. I like him, very productive for his age and will fit an NBA archetype.

I hope one of these 2 are available for the warriors.


They should be. This draft is strong enough that I could see them both falling into the 20’s, they look like first round prospects but considering who they are playing against it doesn’t mean they are first round prospects. This early hype/analytics hopefully will get them an invite to the draft combine. From there both their first round hopes will depend on what they do at the combine. They both look good but they both need to continue to look good against better competition. Now if they dominate the combine and workouts then year top 10.

Some aren't as high on Hendricks now..

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1151 » by WargamesX » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:17 pm

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WargamesX wrote:
Onus wrote:I hope one of these 2 are available for the warriors.


They should be. This draft is strong enough that I could see them both falling into the 20’s, they look like first round prospects but considering who they are playing against it doesn’t mean they are first round prospects. This early hype/analytics hopefully will get them an invite to the draft combine. From there both their first round hopes will depend on what they do at the combine. They both look good but they both need to continue to look good against better competition. Now if they dominate the combine and workouts then year top 10.

Some aren't as high on Hendricks now..

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I think they can participate in the combine and then undeclare depending on feedback. Basically for both they would need to show and prove at a higher level of competition consistently to guarantee their first round selection.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1152 » by clyde21 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:51 pm

i mean, which 1ADs don't have 'things to clean up'? Black, George, GG, Smith Jr., Cam, etc. all have things to clean up, doesn't mean they shouldn't declare. weird tweet.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1153 » by Hal14 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:i mean, which 1ADs don't have 'things to clean up'? Black, George, GG, Smith Jr., Cam, etc. all have things to clean up, doesn't mean they shouldn't declare. weird tweet.

I guess the way he phrases it it kind of weird. But obviously what he means is that based on doing a deeper, more extensive look at Henricks' film, he sees holes that are glaring enough to think he isn't a 1 and done guy at this point.

It's his opinion. Perhaps he will elaborate on that opinion in a future video/article or something..
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Post#1154 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:00 am

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Post#1155 » by jezzerinho » Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:23 pm

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1157 » by The-Power » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:24 am

I wouldn't be surprised if sometime soon this season we'll have to talk about KeShawn Murphy. Since he plays solid minutes, he has produced and he has an intriguing combination of skill and size. Sophomore-aged but still, someone to keep an eye on.
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Post#1158 » by Catchall » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:28 am

How come Dalen Terry almost never plays for the Bulls? He looked really good as a prospect last year.
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Post#1159 » by God Squad » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:36 pm

Catchall wrote:How come Dalen Terry almost never plays for the Bulls? He looked really good as a prospect last year.

Behind Ayo/Caruso/White and sadly even Dragic for mins on that team.
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Post#1160 » by azcatz11 » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:42 pm

Catchall wrote:How come Dalen Terry almost never plays for the Bulls? He looked really good as a prospect last year.


He never was going to be a contributor this year. He’s raw as hell. Give him 3-4 years to see what he turns into
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