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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1161 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:31 am

ray ray wrote:Okay.. From what I've been hearing. The Phx Suns FO where targeting Aaron Gordon before the show he put on last night. However, after last night his value got higher and might not happen.

One thing is clear, the Suns are starting the youth movement. Everyone is available with the exception of Booker, Len and Warren. They won't be able to trade either Knight or Bledsoe but once the summer approaches us, expects at least one of them to be traded.

I'm still trying to get the information on who the Suns are talking and who they are targeting.


Thanks for sharing. Even if your wrong at least it gives us a conversation piece.
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Post#1162 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:35 am

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ray ray wrote:Okay.. From what I've been hearing. The Phx Suns FO where targeting Aaron Gordon before the show he put on last night. However, after last night his value got higher and might not happen.

One thing is clear, the Suns are starting the youth movement. Everyone is available with the exception of Booker, Len and Warren. They won't be able to trade either Knight or Bledsoe but once the summer approaches us, expects at least one of them to be traded.

I'm still trying to get the information on who the Suns are talking and who they are targeting.


Gordon increased his value after that dunk contest performance? I'm sorry but I have finally seen it all :lol:

It does seem trivial but that performance has probably gotten him more attention and that means he's now on the radar of teams who probably haven't even seen him play. Does that mean he's increased his on-court value? Likely not but more attention means likely more demand and as you know, more demand means potentially a higher market price. And as you know, young players who are also hyper athletic usually are usually more highly valued and Gordon just showcased that athleticism last night.



Gordon was and always has been a freak athlete. That's always been known. Not sure how the dunk contest would change that. It makes him more popular for sure, but it's not like he's going to be doing air crunches in games.
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Post#1163 » by Saberestar » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:36 am

Aaron Gordon, Watson and Frye for Markieff, Knight and Cavs pick ?

I don't know if that is enough, Gordon has a ton of value for a rebuilding team.
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1164 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:38 am

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Gordon increased his value after that dunk contest performance? I'm sorry but I have finally seen it all :lol:

It does seem trivial but that performance has probably gotten him more attention and that means he's now on the radar of teams who probably haven't even seen him play. Does that mean he's increased his on-court value? Likely not but more attention means likely more demand and as you know, more demand means potentially a higher market price. And as you know, young players who are also hyper athletic usually are usually more highly valued and Gordon just showcased that athleticism last night.



Gordon was and always has been a freak athlete. That's always been known. Not sure how the dunk contest would change that. It makes him more popular for sure, but it's not like he's going to be doing air crunches in games.

Not saying he wasn't, just that the dunk contest has put him back on the radar of many teams who probably have forgotten about him since he plays on a team that receives little to no attention. Like I said, it doesn't increase his on-court value but it does put him back on the trade lists of more teams. More demand means more market value.
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Post#1165 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:49 am

I want no part of Whiteside. The guy is a headcase and even his teammates aren't defending his actions. The last thing this team needs is another low character guy regardless of talent. And to trade Len and a future valuable first at a chance to resign him? Absolutely not.
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Post#1166 » by Qwigglez » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:50 am

This was on the Magic board...

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Post#1167 » by jredsaz » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:54 am

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ray ray wrote:I haven't been here in a while... But from what I can gather...

Suns are indeed in serious trade talks with an eastern conference team..

Keif and a couple other pieces for a young player.. Not sure who or what yet. Once I do, I'll let you know


PHX gets: Harris, Watson, 2018 1st (LAL)
ORL gets: Knight, Morris, Leuer

But most likely someone we won't expect.



We'd be lucky just to poach just Harris with that package, Orlando wouldn't give up a Top 5 protected pick. Although it becomes two second rounders if the Lakers keep both their Top 3 protected 2016 AND 2017 picks from being conveyed to Philly via us.


Odds are that pick won't be conveyed. It's a throw in. Check out the real gm page for the details.
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Post#1168 » by saintEscaton » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:04 am

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PHX gets: Harris, Watson, 2018 1st (LAL)
ORL gets: Knight, Morris, Leuer

But most likely someone we won't expect.



We'd be lucky just to poach just Harris with that package, Orlando wouldn't give up a Top 5 protected pick. Although it becomes two second rounders if the Lakers keep both their Top 3 protected 2016 AND 2017 picks from being conveyed to Philly via us.


Odds are that pick won't be conveyed. It's a throw in. Check out the real gm page for the details.


Its more likely than not that their pick conveys to Philly by 2017, so Orland gets a Top 5 protected pick at 2019 if not 2018. You have the best chance at receiving the 4th pick finishing with a bottom 3 record, so not totally out of the realm of possibility that they drop in the lotto.
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Post#1169 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:17 am

ray ray wrote:Okay.. From what I've been hearing. The Phx Suns FO where targeting Aaron Gordon before the show he put on last night. However, after last night his value got higher and might not happen.

One thing is clear, the Suns are starting the youth movement. Everyone is available with the exception of Booker, Len and Warren. They won't be able to trade either Knight or Bledsoe but once the summer approaches us, expects at least one of them to be traded.

I'm still trying to get the information on who the Suns are talking and who they are targeting.


Does that mean Goodwin is available? Same for Bogdan?
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Post#1170 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:19 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:It does seem trivial but that performance has probably gotten him more attention and that means he's now on the radar of teams who probably haven't even seen him play. Does that mean he's increased his on-court value? Likely not but more attention means likely more demand and as you know, more demand means potentially a higher market price. And as you know, young players who are also hyper athletic usually are usually more highly valued and Gordon just showcased that athleticism last night.



Gordon was and always has been a freak athlete. That's always been known. Not sure how the dunk contest would change that. It makes him more popular for sure, but it's not like he's going to be doing air crunches in games.

Not saying he wasn't, just that the dunk contest has put him back on the radar of many teams who probably have forgotten about him since he plays on a team that receives little to no attention. Like I said, it doesn't increase his on-court value but it does put him back on the trade lists of more teams. More demand means more market value.


I don't know. I'm just a regular fan and Gordon is a very high pick of a very highly thought of draft. I doubt many GM's forgot he existed.
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1171 » by saintEscaton » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:23 am

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ray ray wrote:Okay.. From what I've been hearing. The Phx Suns FO where targeting Aaron Gordon before the show he put on last night. However, after last night his value got higher and might not happen.

One thing is clear, the Suns are starting the youth movement. Everyone is available with the exception of Booker, Len and Warren. They won't be able to trade either Knight or Bledsoe but once the summer approaches us, expects at least one of them to be traded.

I'm still trying to get the information on who the Suns are talking and who they are targeting.


Does that mean Goodwin is available? Same for Bogdan?


Of course they are. They aren't highly regarded blue chip prospects
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Post#1172 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:30 am

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ray ray wrote:Okay.. From what I've been hearing. The Phx Suns FO where targeting Aaron Gordon before the show he put on last night. However, after last night his value got higher and might not happen.

One thing is clear, the Suns are starting the youth movement. Everyone is available with the exception of Booker, Len and Warren. They won't be able to trade either Knight or Bledsoe but once the summer approaches us, expects at least one of them to be traded.

I'm still trying to get the information on who the Suns are talking and who they are targeting.


Does that mean Goodwin is available? Same for Bogdan?


Of course they are. They aren't highly regarded blue chip prospects



Disagree. Archie should be well regarded right now. Bogdan is arguably one of the top 3 prospects in Europe.
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Post#1173 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:31 am

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ray ray wrote:Okay.. From what I've been hearing. The Phx Suns FO where targeting Aaron Gordon before the show he put on last night. However, after last night his value got higher and might not happen.

One thing is clear, the Suns are starting the youth movement. Everyone is available with the exception of Booker, Len and Warren. They won't be able to trade either Knight or Bledsoe but once the summer approaches us, expects at least one of them to be traded.

I'm still trying to get the information on who the Suns are talking and who they are targeting.


Does that mean Goodwin is available? Same for Bogdan?

More than likely. Doesnt Goodwin have one more year on his deal? Goodwin is where I get interested in what Ryan thinks as far as...does Ryan think of Goodwin as a long term or as an asset.
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Post#1174 » by kennydorglas » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:39 am

Nobody will send anything of value for Whiteside because they now he'll bolt.
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Post#1175 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:40 am

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Gordon was and always has been a freak athlete. That's always been known. Not sure how the dunk contest would change that. It makes him more popular for sure, but it's not like he's going to be doing air crunches in games.

Not saying he wasn't, just that the dunk contest has put him back on the radar of many teams who probably have forgotten about him since he plays on a team that receives little to no attention. Like I said, it doesn't increase his on-court value but it does put him back on the trade lists of more teams. More demand means more market value.


I don't know. I'm just a regular fan and Gordon is a very high pick of a very highly thought of draft. I doubt many GM's forgot he existed.

Not necessarily forgotten but not on their radar. I don't doubt his market value and enquiries have gone up just by being showcased. Booker is untouchable but I expect after his showing on the Rising Stars Challenge and 3PT shoot out, we've probably received an increase amount of calls from teams enquiring about him.
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Post#1176 » by ray ray » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:42 am

Qwigglez wrote:This was on the Magic board...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699004609289973766[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699004846331064320[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699005111562080256[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699005680532000768[/tweet]


I'm sure that's what they want to put out there .. But Aaron Gordon was someone the Suns and Magic have talked about. I know that a dunk contest shouldn't be something that "brings more value" to a player. However, teams are hungry to have a player who they can market. After yesterday slam dunk contest, many teams beleive Aaron Gordon is that player. He's only 20 years old, 6'9 and can jump out of the gym.

Concerning Archie Goodwin, the Suns FO are disappointed that he still hasn't developed a consistent jump shot. He's still young but theyre hoping he develops it.
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Post#1177 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:46 am

ray ray wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:This was on the Magic board...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699004609289973766[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699004846331064320[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699005111562080256[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheNBABreak/status/699005680532000768[/tweet]


I'm sure that's what they want to put out there .. But Aaron Gordon was someone the Suns and Magic have talked about. I know that a dunk contest shouldn't be something that "brings more value" to a player. However, teams are hungry to have a player who they can market. After yesterday slam dunk contest, many teams beleive Aaron Gordon is that player. He's only 20 years old, 6'9 and can jump out of the gym.

Concerning Archie Goodwin, the Suns FO are disappointed that he still hasn't developed a consistent jump shot. He's still young but theyre hoping he develops it.


Isn't he shooting like 34 or 35% as a starter from 3?
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Post#1178 » by TeamTragic » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:52 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
ray ray wrote:Okay.. From what I've been hearing. The Phx Suns FO where targeting Aaron Gordon before the show he put on last night. However, after last night his value got higher and might not happen.

One thing is clear, the Suns are starting the youth movement. Everyone is available with the exception of Booker, Len and Warren. They won't be able to trade either Knight or Bledsoe but once the summer approaches us, expects at least one of them to be traded.

I'm still trying to get the information on who the Suns are talking and who they are targeting.


Does that mean Goodwin is available? Same for Bogdan?


At this stage trading Goodwin OR Bogdan is insanity. They better be part of a massive haul. Both are very valuable to a rebuilding team.
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Re: The Trade Thread (Booker is UNTOUCHABLE so dont even ask!) 

Post#1179 » by thamadkant » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:07 am

Magic are not trading Gordon...

Unless its as part of a package for a star player, he is extremely young and has huge upside, got picked at 4th spot... why would Magic give up easily on a recently ex-teenager.

And it has leaked, so McD is not going that way.

Smokes screens and red herrings IMO.... all the trades Suns have made have NOT leaked at all... (McD era).
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Post#1180 » by Sunsdeuce » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:12 am

In Everyone's opinion what is Goodwin's realistic trade value?
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