Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

[ThunderBolt]

Rockets fan here. I'm curious what value OKC fans place on the swap with the Rockets this year. Would any combination of the below be worth giving up the swap?

1. Heat remove all protections on 23 pick (in an Oladipo trade to the Heat)

2. Portland's lottery protected first this year

3. Milwaukee's first this year

4. Brooklyn's unprotected 22 first

5. Milwaukee's 23 unprotected first.

I wouldn’t do it for all five combined. We already have enough middle of the frp’s.

[Dadouv47]

Rockets fan here. I'm curious what value OKC fans place on the swap with the Rockets this year. Would any combination of the below be worth giving up the swap?

1. Heat remove all protections on 23 pick (in an Oladipo trade to the Heat)

2. Portland's lottery protected first this year

3. Milwaukee's first this year

4. Brooklyn's unprotected 22 first

5. Milwaukee's 23 unprotected first.

The first isn't really a good asset so we are basically talking about 4 FRPs to remove the pick swap, right!?

That's a good offer but we have so many future FRPs that I don't think it's worth it (even if I HATE gambling on a 48%/52% flip)

I would offer the same amount of (bad) FRPs to remove the protection of that pick

EDIT : Well I'm not sure...would look into the market to see which young prospect we could get with those picks...could end up agreeing.

[gmoney411]

Rockets fan here. I'm curious what value OKC fans place on the swap with the Rockets this year. Would any combination of the below be worth giving up the swap?

1. Heat remove all protections on 23 pick (in an Oladipo trade to the Heat)

2. Portland's lottery protected first this year

3. Milwaukee's first this year

4. Brooklyn's unprotected 22 first

5. Milwaukee's 23 unprotected first.

The first isn't really a good asset so we are basically talking about 4 FRPs to remove the pick swap, right!?

That's a good offer but we have so many future FRPs that I don't think it's worth it (even if I HATE gambling on a 48%/52% flip)

I would offer the same amount of (bad) FRPs to remove the protection of that pick

I've actually gone back and forth on whether or not I would. Currently the most likely scenario is keeping the pick by a slight margin. And the most likely alternative scenario is giving up pick 6-7. I'm really not sure if it's worth 5(Rockets would get Miami this year) firsts to pick at 6 or 7. I think it's a very interesting decision on both sides. I don't think I value pick 6 or 7 that highly.

[Dadouv47]

Rockets fan here. I'm curious what value OKC fans place on the swap with the Rockets this year. Would any combination of the below be worth giving up the swap?

1. Heat remove all protections on 23 pick (in an Oladipo trade to the Heat)

2. Portland's lottery protected first this year

3. Milwaukee's first this year

4. Brooklyn's unprotected 22 first

5. Milwaukee's 23 unprotected first.

The first isn't really a good asset so we are basically talking about 4 FRPs to remove the pick swap, right!?

That's a good offer but we have so many future FRPs that I don't think it's worth it (even if I HATE gambling on a 48%/52% flip)

I would offer the same amount of (bad) FRPs to remove the protection of that pick

I've actually gone back and forth on whether or not I would. Currently the most likely scenario is keeping the pick by a slight margin. And the most likely alternative scenario is giving up pick 6-7. I'm really not sure if it's worth 5(Rockets would get Miami this year) firsts to pick at 6 or 7. I think it's a very interesting decision on both sides. I don't think I value pick 6 or 7 that highly.

You are offering 4 picks here. The Miami pick is ours.

I think Houston will likely end up with the worst record in the NBA so it's more likely the 5th pick if the pick isn't 1-4. Agree that still some chances that will end up 6-7 in the draft...that's why 4 FRPs is still a pretty good offer

Think both franchises hate to gamble on this pick swap protected FRP but ultimately...it's tough to make a deal.

[gmoney411]

The first isn't really a good asset so we are basically talking about 4 FRPs to remove the pick swap, right!?

That's a good offer but we have so many future FRPs that I don't think it's worth it (even if I HATE gambling on a 48%/52% flip)

I would offer the same amount of (bad) FRPs to remove the protection of that pick

I've actually gone back and forth on whether or not I would. Currently the most likely scenario is keeping the pick by a slight margin. And the most likely alternative scenario is giving up pick 6-7. I'm really not sure if it's worth 5(Rockets would get Miami this year) firsts to pick at 6 or 7. I think it's a very interesting decision on both sides. I don't think I value pick 6 or 7 that highly.

You are offering 4 picks here. The Miami pick is ours.

I think Houston will likely end up with the worst record in the NBA so it's more likely the 5th pick if the pick isn't 1-4. Agree that still some chances that will end up 6-7 in the draft...that's why 4 FRPs is still a pretty good offer

I know what we are offering but I am talking about the Houston side. Let's say protections are removed and Houston gets pick 6. The Thunder will have Miami's pick and the 4 picks Houston traded. That's 5 total picks. If the Rockets just lose pick 6 they would own the rights to those 5 picks.

Rockets might finish last but the Pistons are bad. Wolves are getting better but are still bad and have a reason to tank. Magic might clean house. Plus the Rockets are a significantly better team with Wood. All 4 teams have a real good shot at the worst record. Which makes pick 6 or 7 the most likely the Rockets would lose not knowing how the season will go for any of the teams. Giving up the 5th pick is very unlikely for the Rockets at this point.

[Dadouv47]

Rockets fan here. I'm curious what value OKC fans place on the swap with the Rockets this year. Would any combination of the below be worth giving up the swap?

1. Heat remove all protections on 23 pick (in an Oladipo trade to the Heat)

2. Portland's lottery protected first this year

3. Milwaukee's first this year

4. Brooklyn's unprotected 22 first

5. Milwaukee's 23 unprotected first.

The first isn't really a good asset so we are basically talking about 4 FRPs to remove the pick swap, right!?

That's a good offer but we have so many future FRPs that I don't think it's worth it (even if I HATE gambling on a 48%/52% flip)

I would offer the same amount of (bad) FRPs to remove the protection of that pick

I've actually gone back and forth on whether or not I would. Currently the most likely scenario is keeping the pick by a slight margin. And the most likely alternative scenario is giving up pick 6-7. I'm really not sure if it's worth 5(Rockets would get Miami this year) firsts to pick at 6 or 7. I think it's a very interesting decision on both sides. I don't think I value pick 6 or 7 that highly.

I would probably do this for less picks but more valuable ones, at least potentially (Brooklyn 2026 FRP for example)

I think Presti is a gambler and gonna live with the result. I personnally would accept a good offer coming from Houston because it sucks to rely on luck for such an important draft pick.

[gmoney411]

The first isn't really a good asset so we are basically talking about 4 FRPs to remove the pick swap, right!?

That's a good offer but we have so many future FRPs that I don't think it's worth it (even if I HATE gambling on a 48%/52% flip)

I would offer the same amount of (bad) FRPs to remove the protection of that pick

I've actually gone back and forth on whether or not I would. Currently the most likely scenario is keeping the pick by a slight margin. And the most likely alternative scenario is giving up pick 6-7. I'm really not sure if it's worth 5(Rockets would get Miami this year) firsts to pick at 6 or 7. I think it's a very interesting decision on both sides. I don't think I value pick 6 or 7 that highly.

I would probably do this for less picks but more valuable ones, at least potentially (Brooklyn 2026 FRP for example)

I think Presti is a gambler and gonna live with the result. I personnally would accept a good offer coming from Houston because it sucks to rely on luck for such an important draft pick.

I think both GMs are going to end up doing that. I'd probably make or accept a good offer too if I was on either side because I'm risk adverse.

[Dadouv47]

I've actually gone back and forth on whether or not I would. Currently the most likely scenario is keeping the pick by a slight margin. And the most likely alternative scenario is giving up pick 6-7. I'm really not sure if it's worth 5(Rockets would get Miami this year) firsts to pick at 6 or 7. I think it's a very interesting decision on both sides. I don't think I value pick 6 or 7 that highly.

I would probably do this for less picks but more valuable ones, at least potentially (Brooklyn 2026 FRP for example)

I think Presti is a gambler and gonna live with the result. I personnally would accept a good offer coming from Houston because it sucks to rely on luck for such an important draft pick.

I think both GMs are going to end up doing that. I'd probably make or accept a good offer too if I was on either side because I'm risk adverse.

Same. I think the outcome of this coinflip is more important to Houston though...drafting top 4 is obviously better than 5-7 and even if that pick doesn't convey for us, we will still have a top 8-10 pick in this draft. Also we already have a future star in SGA while you guys are starting a rebuild (or will trade assets to compete, no clue).

That being said, I will cry if the pick ends up being 1-4

[gmoney411]

I would probably do this for less picks but more valuable ones, at least potentially (Brooklyn 2026 FRP for example)

I think Presti is a gambler and gonna live with the result. I personnally would accept a good offer coming from Houston because it sucks to rely on luck for such an important draft pick.

I think both GMs are going to end up doing that. I'd probably make or accept a good offer too if I was on either side because I'm risk adverse.

Same. I think the outcome of this coinflip is more important to Houston though...drafting top 4 is obviously better than 5-7 and even if that pick doesn't convey for us, we will still have a top 8-10 pick in this draft. Also we already have a future star in SGA while you guys are starting a rebuild (or will trade assets to compete, no clue).

That being said, I will cry if the pick ends up being 1-4

I go back and forth on how much I care about losing it. Superstars tend to go in the top 4 and we can't lose that pick. We can lose pick 5 and this is supposed to be a 5 deep draft but the odds of that are low enough that I'm not worried about it yet. But if we end up as the worst team I will really be sweating the lottery.

I will say that if there is a franchise I'm ok with losing the pick to it's you guys. We still owe y'all from the Harden trade.

[ThunderBolt]

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[ThunderBolt]

This is probably the least excited I’ve been for trade deadline that I can remember. I don’t see us adding any exciting young pieces or even first round picks and I’m skeptical any move will make much of a difference with this overachieving group.

[jake_swivel]

Another thing that sucks is how underwhelming the next free agency class or two has ended up being with all of the extensions. We have all this cap space and no one who is going to want to make big moves to free up space.

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Can’t say I blame them at this point. He might have legitimate value next season if he keeps it up, especially on that contract. If you can’t commit to a tank, you should probably double down on developing what you have.

[Dadouv47]

This is probably the least excited I’ve been for trade deadline that I can remember. I don’t see us adding any exciting young pieces or even first round picks and I’m skeptical any move will make much of a difference with this overachieving group.

Agree. We already traded our most valuable players (not named SGA or Dort) last offseason and there are not enough games left to make some tanking moves.

Also don't remember the last time OKC had a busy middle season trade deadline...maybe the year we traded Perkins for Kanter & Singler?

Doesn't really make sense to keep Williams though...a lot of contenders could use him right now and I'm not sure his value will be that high this offseason (and would prefer to develop our young guys next season).

[ThunderBolt]

This is probably the least excited I’ve been for trade deadline that I can remember. I don’t see us adding any exciting young pieces or even first round picks and I’m skeptical any move will make much of a difference with this overachieving group.

Agree. We already traded our most valuable players (not named SGA or Dort) last offseason and there are not enough games left to make some tanking moves.

Also don't remember the last time OKC had a busy middle season trade deadline...maybe the year we traded Perkins for Kanter & Singler?

Doesn't really make sense to keep Williams though...a lot of contenders could use him right now and I'm not sure his value will be that high this offseason (and would prefer to develop our young guys next season).

The year we traded for Gibson and McDermott too.

[thedoppelganger]

Are we putting all the trades here or in the around the NBA thread? Either way, here’s one to kick things off. Don’t think we have to worry about the Kings trying to (purposefully) match us for losses down the stretch.

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[retrobro90]

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Can’t say I blame them at this point. He might have legitimate value next season if he keeps it up, especially on that contract. If you can’t commit to a tank, you should probably double down on developing what you have.

Yeah I think he'll have even better value once more eyes are on him across the league. I heard on the broadcast tonight he's shooting 57% from the field this year. Been a pleasure to watch him this year tbh and I think he's good vibes/fun for the other guys to play with because he's always flashing to open space and playing unselfishly.

[ThunderBolt]

Are we putting all the trades here or in the around the NBA thread? Either way, here’s one to kick things off. Don’t think we have to worry about the Kings trying to (purposefully) match us for losses down the stretch.

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Let’s just put it here for simplicity sake.

[ThunderBolt]

No sourcing on this or anything but I wonder about okongwu with Atlanta. He’s a guy I liked in the draft and hasn’t gotten much opportunity this year since coming back from injury. That’s unlikely to change too. I don’t think we necessarily have what the hawks want or need but something to keep an eye on moving forward.

[Dadouv47]

Kings trying to make the play in? Sounds good to me

Overall good night yesterday with us losing, Cavs/Magic/Kings winning.

Magic probably won't win a lot of games anymore though (no clue about the cavs, gonna be difficult as well even if they will probably keep the guys that are playing right now)