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Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:42 am
by XtremeDunkz
kuclas wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:lol yall really talking about trading Embiid. This board never ceases to amaze. Philly fans as a whole desrve a poverty franchise.

Embiid is switching agencies. So depends what he wants. If he wants out. He can force his way out like any star if player.

I don’t think Sixers will willingly trade Embiid. No matter what the offer is.

Simmons is really good in regular season and when the action is high pace. But when the game slows down in the playoffs. He’s a huge negative in a tight ball game. Sixers lost the series due to games 4/5. That was due to blown leads. We literally have to be up big for Simmons to be playable.

The only close game we won was game 6. And guess what? Simmons was in foul trouble most of the game. And in a tight ball games Simmons was substituted out with 6 minutes left in 4th quarter of a 6 point game due to hack a Simmons. And Sixers did fine cause Simmons was out. Due to maxey playing well.

We needed a competent reliable point guard in games 4/5 to close it out. But we didn’t have it. Embiid deserves better.


Hes switching agencies because his agent became the president of the Knicks. Embiid is as loyal as they come. He isnt going anywhere.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:37 am
by Rastas
mjkvol wrote:Question for you guys, whose opinions I value more than most of what passes for media these days:

What would you say right now to a Portland offer of Lillard, Covington, and a pick for Embiid?


Your asking the wrong board - too many here consider Embiid there love child.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:13 am
by 76ciology
If Im Jojo, I’ll ask for a trade if Sixers can’t find a top tier playmaker shotcreator. Because he won’t win the championship, he won’t win the MVP and his body will just continue to breakdown if this continues. It also makes sense for superstars to want to be out and join other top tier stars when the team has maxed out everything to form them a championship caliber team

Look at the history and you see this happen over and over. Kobe.. dwight.. harden.. KD.. Lebron.. bosh.. kG and etc.

Last season, Bucks were lucky Giannis only wanted jrue.

Personally, It makes the most sense if Sixers will be the one to trade Embiid instead and build the right way where there you don’t need a miracle to find a top tier perimeter shotcreator in exchange for Ben or tobi.

But for now, I’d stay on the course and go for the most ideal situation. Which is to find that guy with Ben and/or Tobi

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:29 am
by 76ciology
“How much more expensive should my house be than my car?”

House = Perimeter playmaking scorer
Car = frontcourt

Right now we have a Lamborghini while living inside a tent.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:34 pm
by Kobblehead
Embiid just split from CAA.

Uh oh, trade request looming? Or maybe an ultimatum to trade Simmons?

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:51 pm
by mjkvol
76ciology wrote:If Im Jojo, I’ll ask for a trade if Sixers can’t find a top tier playmaker shotcreator. Because he won’t win the championship, he won’t win the MVP and his body will just continue to breakdown if this continues. It also makes sense for superstars to want to be out and join other top tier stars when the team has maxed out everything to form them a championship caliber team

Look at the history and you see this happen over and over. Kobe.. dwight.. harden.. KD.. Lebron.. bosh.. kG and etc.

Last season, Bucks were lucky Giannis only wanted jrue.

Personally, It makes the most sense if Sixers will be the one to trade Embiid instead and build the right way where there you don’t need a miracle to find a top tier perimeter shotcreator in exchange for Ben or tobi.

But for now, I’d stay on the course and go for the most ideal situation. Which is to find that guy with Ben and/or Tobi


My feelings exactly, and this is the kind of answer I was looking for in bringing up the topic. The chance of landing that perimeter creator for Simmons and/or Harris are limited at best, but should be the first option for Morey. But to remove completely the idea of moving Embiid if the right deal came along is beyond shortsighted, and that's one thing Morey is not.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:23 pm
by okboomer
If you want to kill the 76ers, the best way would to trade Embiid and keep Simmons. The team might as well contract or move to Las Vegas/Seattle if that were the case. I wouldnt be opposed to moving Joel, but both of them would have to go. Id also try to wait a year before doing so too, exhausting all possibilities to find a guard to pair with him.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:29 pm
by 76ciology
okboomer wrote:If you want to kill the 76ers, the best way would to trade Embiid and keep Simmons. The team might as well contract or move to Las Vegas/Seattle if that were the case. I wouldnt be opposed to moving Joel, but both of them would have to go. Id also try to wait a year before doing so too, exhausting all possibilities to find a guard to pair with him.


Don’t get me wrong. Im not saying trade Biid instead of Ben.

What im saying is we have to be pragmatic and explore all options. And this includes trading Biid.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:33 pm
by 76ciology
mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:If Im Jojo, I’ll ask for a trade if Sixers can’t find a top tier playmaker shotcreator. Because he won’t win the championship, he won’t win the MVP and his body will just continue to breakdown if this continues. It also makes sense for superstars to want to be out and join other top tier stars when the team has maxed out everything to form them a championship caliber team

Look at the history and you see this happen over and over. Kobe.. dwight.. harden.. KD.. Lebron.. bosh.. kG and etc.

Last season, Bucks were lucky Giannis only wanted jrue.

Personally, It makes the most sense if Sixers will be the one to trade Embiid instead and build the right way where there you don’t need a miracle to find a top tier perimeter shotcreator in exchange for Ben or tobi.

But for now, I’d stay on the course and go for the most ideal situation. Which is to find that guy with Ben and/or Tobi


My feelings exactly, and this is the kind of answer I was looking for in bringing up the topic. The chance of landing that perimeter creator for Simmons and/or Harris are limited at best, but should be the first option for Morey. But to remove completely the idea of moving Embiid if the right deal came along is beyond shortsighted, and that's one thing Morey is not.


You need a lot of top end talent to build around Embiid.

A lot more top end if you try to build around Embiid and Ben.

You dont need that much top end talent if you build the right way. Suns and Hawks are good examples.

If you can get a superstar perimeter player for Embiid, everything becomes easy. I can trade Ben for Jarett Allen and Tobias for Kevin love, with accompanying lotto pick(s) for both. And I’d make the second round and has a team with a higher upside than what we have right now.

If you have the choice to spend your money, spend it more on your shelter to protect you from the weather than for a fancy car

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:34 pm
by okboomer
76ciology wrote:
okboomer wrote:If you want to kill the 76ers, the best way would to trade Embiid and keep Simmons. The team might as well contract or move to Las Vegas/Seattle if that were the case. I wouldnt be opposed to moving Joel, but both of them would have to go. Id also try to wait a year before doing so too, exhausting all possibilities to find a guard to pair with him.


Don’t get me wrong. Im not saying trade Biid instead of Ben.

What im saying is we have to be pragmatic and explore all options. And this includes trading Biid.


I totally agree, Morey wouldnt be doing his job if he didnt. That being written, the death of this franchise would be keeping Ben and trading Joel. There would be no way to sell your fanbase that. Trading one of most liked Philadelphia athletes ever and keeping one of the most polarizing one that now pretty much everyone wants to run out of town. I do think this will be a very much realistic topic next summer. Just for now, try to find a dynamic guard.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:44 pm
by 76ciology
okboomer wrote:
76ciology wrote:
okboomer wrote:If you want to kill the 76ers, the best way would to trade Embiid and keep Simmons. The team might as well contract or move to Las Vegas/Seattle if that were the case. I wouldnt be opposed to moving Joel, but both of them would have to go. Id also try to wait a year before doing so too, exhausting all possibilities to find a guard to pair with him.


Don’t get me wrong. Im not saying trade Biid instead of Ben.

What im saying is we have to be pragmatic and explore all options. And this includes trading Biid.


I totally agree, Morey wouldnt be doing his job if he didnt. That being written, the death of this franchise would be keeping Ben and trading Joel. There would be no way to sell your fanbase that. Trading one of most liked Philadelphia athletes ever and keeping one of the most polarizing one that now pretty much everyone wants to run out of town. I do think this will be a very much realistic topic next summer. Just for now, try to find a dynamic guard.


If there’s a guy who can trade Biid that would shield the ownership from any backlash from this city, it’s Morey.

I dont mind keeping Embiid. Im not trading him for some expirings and pick. Im talking about guys like Doncic or Steph IF AVAILABLE. And I dont they aren’t.

My end game is to find an Embiid caliber scoring perimeter player. That should be our priority number 1 and be done at all costs.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:51 pm
by eyeatoma
Kobblehead wrote:Embiid just split from CAA.

Uh oh, trade request looming? Or maybe an ultimatum to trade Simmons?
Lol chill

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Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:53 pm
by mjkvol
76ciology wrote:If you can get a superstar perimeter player for Embiid, everything becomes easy. I can trade Ben for Jarett Allen and Tobias for Kevin love, with accompanying lotto pick(s) for both. And I’d make the second round and has a team with a higher upside than what we have right now.


To me, this would be the dream scenario. Joel is 28 and already showing signs of wear, and we're staring down the barrel of a super-max that keeps him here until he's 34. As much as I'd love to move both Simmons and Harris, the return may possibly result in a step back in the near future, something we can ill afford given Embiid's age and health.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:45 pm
by Mik317
i almost hope they do trade Jo

that way I can stop caring so much about this dumb franchise

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:59 pm
by eyeatoma
Mik317 wrote:i almost hope they do trade Jo

that way I can stop caring so much about this dumb franchise
If they do it I'm officially done with the sixers and will follow the team he joins. 20 years of fandom for a team full of morons.

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Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:04 pm
by Bum Adebayo
What I will not accept is trading Embiid while not trading Simmons. I understand wanting to trade Embiid given the circumstances of his injury history and his probable significant decline in his low 30's, but Simmons has to go, this type of player (wasted talent) cannot represent the Sixers.
The most I accept is waiting before trade deadline. If Simmons is not traded by then, this means this team is not worth following and suffering over.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:10 pm
by kuclas
Beal will be the target at trade deadline. That’s what Morey is thinking if he can’t move Ben. Beal becomes free agent after the 2021-2022 season if he opts out.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:17 pm
by Eyeamok
Bum Adebayo wrote:What I will not accept is trading Embiid while not trading Simmons. I understand wanting to trade Embiid given the circumstances of his injury history and his probable significant decline in his low 30's, but Simmons has to go, this type of player (wasted talent) cannot represent the Sixers.
The most I accept is waiting before trade deadline. If Simmons is not traded by then, this means this team is not worth following and suffering over.


It has been a whirlwind season for you and Simmons.

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:25 pm
by rzzzzz
Embiid and a 1st team, all NBA pg would be ideal. I’m not sure we’ve tried Embiid with even just a real good pg yet. There must be some obtainable good pgs for Morey to deal for. (I wish I could believe Maxey was going to be that good pg, and we should really give him the chance. But I’m not sure I ever saw him and Embiid show that much chemistry out there this past year, so I can’t plan on it.)

Re: Joel Embiid

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:01 am
by DCasey91
Embiid is loyal has all hell, but if there was ever a player that’s disgruntled and wants out he has every right to be. All the catering went to a lesser player and favoritism went straight there.

5 years no improvement and no correct pairing outside of half a season of butler for him is just poor management.

As the poster above mentioned a good PG opens up so much for the big guy. How do you not even have that for him?

I mean Vanvleet lol plucked from the outer.

Why didn’t we even look at Payton Pritchard?

I don’t blame him at all.