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Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1181 » by MountainDrew » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:42 pm

I thought we'd give up more than this, and I would have been ok with that even. As it stands, I love the trade! BC really surprised me here, I thought he'd get fleeced. So hype about this fing team now!

Watching the Celtics fans meltdown admittedly makes things sweeter as well, even though I don't hate the trade for them
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Post#1182 » by nitocobola » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:47 pm

Simmons25 wrote:What do people think? Happy? Not Happy? Although I think Tom has misinterpreted it... We probably get the pick if it lands pick 1 or picks 6 and onwards.

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1183 » by hookshot199 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:48 pm

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KrazySixersD wrote:Some of yall are legit dumb.. u acquire picks and assets to eventually use them to get a star.. having all those picks not ever turn into a star is useless. We acquired them, we got what almost every GM feels is going to be a star, myself included, and ur crying over THE POASIBIKITY of MAYBE getting a star later.

We win this trade. Sixers r title contenders in 2 years for the next 6 to 8 years and a surefire lock at the playoffs this year.

Oh ya, and we have **** tons of capspace. Stfu.. colangelo just finished the process for us


Exactly.

* Boston fans are currently tearing their hair out at losing out on Fultz
* The rest of the leagues fans jaws are wide open wondering what the hell Boston is doing and why would they gift their rival a potential championship team for the next 10 years.
* Half of Phillies fans are worried about whether the Lakers and Sacremento picks for players we don't even know exist yet are top 5 protected :lol: :lol:



Kudos to Colangelo for not giving up both picks. But the protections actually benefit Boston. Essentially we get the Sacramento pick unprotected and if LA falls between 2-5 we get an Extra shot to guarantee a Top 5 pick.



By the way, dramatically 'between 2 and 5' means 3 and 4. I believe Bodner meant 2 through 5. I believe there's a 95% chance that Bodner meant '2 through 5'. But until some sort of an official announcement is made, there could be surprises. As a Sixers fan, I am still worried there might be another pick included - woj or Bodner notwithstanding. Also, I truly hope that Fultz will be required to undergo a complete physical before draft night.

Lastly, the reality is that IT and Bradley are very good players. But they're also on the final years of their contracts. They don't have trade value commensurate with their real worth. They might command a 10-15 pick to a contender, but otherwise they're just rental players. There's no mechanism to lock them into longer contracts.

Also, I suspect that only 10% of East Coast Celtics and Sixers fans watched Fultz play. I didn't. A few highlight clips? So what. Therefore, I can't say whether Colangelo made a good deal or not. I can say, as a huge critic of Colangelo, that he hasn't been a bad drafter. I think most Philly fans, even if we wanted him to draft someone other than Fultz and not trade any picks, woke up relieved that he didn't get fleeced.

We still need that announcement and physical before I judge this trade. On balance, I feel better this morning than last night.
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Post#1184 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:49 pm

Simmons25 wrote:What do people think? Happy? Not Happy? Although I think Tom has misinterpreted it... We probably get the pick if it lands pick 1 or picks 6 and onwards.

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The way he's saying it doesn't make sense for the Celtics, tbh.
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Post#1185 » by PLO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:49 pm

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Whatever helps Celtics fans sleep better at night... Either way doesn't need to be a leader...We have our super-alpha in Embiid...


Apparently Fultz struggled to win pick up games as a youngster, so maybe this is where this is coming from apart from his record with the Huskies. Mind you Fultz was small compared to his contemporaries as a youngster; he's a late bloomer in terms of physical development which is a major reason he's so good. Developing a skill-set to cope against bigger, stronger opponents is a big advantage when you get the same size or bigger than them.

Just as an aside that's the reason why I can't see Michael Porter being the number one pick next year - he's always been so advanced physically against the kids he's been playing against and you can clearly see he's deficient in a some crucial areas because he's been relying on his physical superiority.
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Post#1186 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:54 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:
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Whatever helps Celtics fans sleep better at night... Either way doesn't need to be a leader...We have our super-alpha in Embiid...


Apparently Fultz struggled to win pick up games as a youngster, so maybe this is where this is coming from apart from his record with the Huskies. Mind you Fultz was small compared to his contemporaries as a youngster; he's a late bloomer in terms of physical development which is a major reason he's so good. Developing a skill-set to cope against bigger, stronger opponents is a big advantage when you get the same size or bigger than them.

Just as an aside that's the reason why I can't see Michael Porter being the number one pick next year - he's always been so advanced physically against the kids he's been playing against and you can clearly see he's deficient in a some crucial areas because he's been relying on his physical superiority.

Here's a solid article about Fultz' transformations
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2017/06/16/the-transformation-markelle-fultz/VNOZVzt1KkNoyHmDmLnYJO/story.html
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Post#1187 » by nymets1 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:01 pm

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The Celtics probably had concerns about Fultz defense and Fultz probably had issue with amount of playing time he would get in Boston to say the least. If the Celtics weren't able to trade down from the 1st pick, They would have drafted someone else either JJ or Tatum.
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Post#1188 » by SelfishPlayer » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:04 pm

Fultz is amongst the minority of athletes that are the accurate age for their class. Most players are held back by their families so that they look better dominating younger players, but at the end of the day most of them end up older nullifying the effect slightly. Imagine how good Fultz could have looked if he were just entering his freshman season this fall. Don't you think that he would be the #1 high school player in the country and not some lightly recruited guy that played his way into becoming the #1 pick in the NBA draft? So it's not a shock that he lost a lot, he was the young guy most of the time.
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Post#1189 » by Simmons25 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:04 pm

Just saw this come out on ESPN's sports science. Kinda corny but fun.

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Post#1190 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:11 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:
PLO wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Whatever helps Celtics fans sleep better at night... Either way doesn't need to be a leader...We have our super-alpha in Embiid...


Apparently Fultz struggled to win pick up games as a youngster, so maybe this is where this is coming from apart from his record with the Huskies. Mind you Fultz was small compared to his contemporaries as a youngster; he's a late bloomer in terms of physical development which is a major reason he's so good. Developing a skill-set to cope against bigger, stronger opponents is a big advantage when you get the same size or bigger than them.

Just as an aside that's the reason why I can't see Michael Porter being the number one pick next year - he's always been so advanced physically against the kids he's been playing against and you can clearly see he's deficient in a some crucial areas because he's been relying on his physical superiority.

Here's a solid article about Fultz' transformations
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2017/06/16/the-transformation-markelle-fultz/VNOZVzt1KkNoyHmDmLnYJO/story.html


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Post#1191 » by cksdayoff » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:25 pm

the Colorado game showed off futz's tenacity at getting to the rim late in the game at will to force overtime
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Post#1192 » by Tony Franciosa » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:32 pm

keep in mind that he's only 19. can't wait to see what Brett Brown can do with this young squad next year.
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Post#1193 » by James40 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:36 pm

Winner winner chicken dinner, Okafor won a national title, how has that worked out? It's likely they have to add him in a trade just to get rid of him.

If BC determined Fultz is the guy, this is the right move and he didn't give up that much to get him, you do what you have to to get the BPA that's going to help your team win titles.

Celtic fans still shouldn't be upset or mad, they still have the Nets pick next year, maybe Lakers, or Sacs pick in 2019. It's a miracle they've made it this far in the playoffs (conference championship) with their current roster and that's a testament to Brad Stevens ( who coached Hayward at Butler).

Ainge has to stop kicking the can down the street and put a team together this and next year to challenge Cleveland. He $h!t the bed last year taking Brown, Ainge should have at least tried to mortgage the future for Simmons. They need a difference maker to beat Cleveland and compete with GS. It's time to move away from their midget scorer and get 5 guys who can play both ways.

If they don't get Butler, or George, and Hayward this year, the Celtics will be the definition of a treadmill team, cause in three years, they won't have a chance against the Sixers, maybe sooner.
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Post#1194 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:36 pm

If Fultz turns out to be special, then Sixers win this trade.

If not...

..Celtics will likely have to wait till 2019 to win this trade
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Post#1195 » by Jaqua92 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:37 pm

MountainDrew wrote:I thought we'd give up more than this, and I would have been ok with that even. As it stands, I love the trade! BC really surprised me here, I thought he'd get fleeced. So hype about this fing team now!

Watching the Celtics fans meltdown admittedly makes things sweeter as well, even though I don't hate the trade for them


Most of the Celtic fans need to chill out.
Itnwas a fine trade for us. We are likely bringing in another all star, can still draft a stud, and have a lot of picks in the upcoming years. We will be, at the very least, in compitition with you guys. Cant remember the last time the sixers were better than okay, so it will be a fun time battling it out in the east with you guys in 5+ years!
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Post#1196 » by Syracuse 76ers » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:37 pm

Foshan wrote:I think Giles would be worth the risk at that point. I really think he has the red flag potential to drop like a stone. but if we coudl get him for Okafor i would be all for it.

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Post#1197 » by ckchen » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:38 pm

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Simmons25 wrote:What do people think? Happy? Not Happy? Although I think Tom has misinterpreted it... We probably get the pick if it lands pick 1 or picks 6 and onwards.

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The way he's saying it doesn't make sense for the Celtics, tbh.


I dunno, I think everyone seemed to understand it. If the Laker's pick is #2 through #5 next year, it goes to Boston. Otherwise they get the 2019 SAC pick. Makes sense, in a way, Danny is just trying to ensure he gets a high pick next year (but BC wanted to protect it just in case it was #1) - and that if he doesn't get it next year, he'd rather take a flyer on that 2019 SAC pick being a better pick.
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Post#1198 » by sixers78 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:40 pm

Hard to win in Washington when chriss and Murray leave after one season for the NBA draft. That team lacked talent.
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Post#1199 » by Syracuse 76ers » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:41 pm

sixers78 wrote:Hard to win in Washington when chriss and Murray leave after one season for the NBA draft. That team lacked talent.

Hard to win when Lorenzo Romar is your head coach and has literally zero idea of offensive concepts and spacing. Fultz will have so much room to operate in the NBA and already has a full repetoir at age 18
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Post#1200 » by Jaqua92 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:43 pm

James40 wrote:Winner winner chicken dinner, Okafor won a national title, how has that worked out? It's likely they have to add him in a trade just to get rid of him.

If BC determined Fultz is the guy, this is the right move and he didn't give up that much to get him, you do what you have to to get the BPA that's going to help your team win titles.

Celtic fans still shouldn't be upset or mad, they still have the Nets pick next year, maybe Lakers, or Sacs pick in 2019. It's a miracle they've made it this far in the playoffs (conference championship) with their current roster and that's a testament to Brad Stevens ( who coached Hayward at Butler).

Ainge has to stop kicking the can down the street and put a team together this and next year to challenge Cleveland. He $h!t the bed last year taking Brown, Ainge should have at least tried to mortgage the future for Simmons. They need a difference maker to beat Cleveland and compete with GS. It's time to move away from their midget scorer and get 5 guys who can play both ways.

If they don't get Butler, or George, and Hayward this year, the Celtics will be the definition of a treadmill team, cause in three years, they won't have a chance against the Sixers, maybe sooner.


No they won't. No offense, but you really haben't a clue what the FO is trying to do in Boston, understandably so, you dont live in Boston..vice versa for me.

Jaylen will develop into a solid player. He's had like 5 20 point games off the bench. Your assessment of the teams future is pretty wrong. You'll see in 5 years. This team is not building to compete with Cleveland and GS. They are trying to get better each year while the main objective is building for the post Cleveland GS era.

And there is no evidence that either of our young talents will amount to anything. Like it or not, you will have to get through us in 5-7 years. it will be pretty fun.

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