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Post#1181 » by bucksbrewers3 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:45 pm

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Post#1182 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:49 pm

I’m assuming Giannis returns to Milwaukee wearing the the new blue jerseys. And announcing the contract.
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Post#1183 » by mke_design » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:53 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I’m assuming Giannis returns to Milwaukee wearing the the new blue jerseys. And announcing the contract.


Yeah seems odd they would need to wait until the 27th to have this reveal. But again, my dream scenarios are cursed.
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Post#1184 » by machu46 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:55 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I’m assuming Giannis returns to Milwaukee wearing the the new blue jerseys. And announcing the contract.


Really? I mean, that would be awesome but that seems really unlikely to me. I will give you serious kudos if that ends up being the case.
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Post#1185 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:55 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:I’m assuming Giannis returns to Milwaukee wearing the the new blue jerseys. And announcing the contract.


Yeah seems odd they would need to wait until the 27th to have this reveal. But again, my dream scenarios are cursed.


Would guess the 27th is when he comes back. Anyone know his itinerary
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Post#1186 » by StickeeFingaz » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:00 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:I’m assuming Giannis returns to Milwaukee wearing the the new blue jerseys. And announcing the contract.


Really? I mean, that would be awesome but that seems really unlikely to me. I will give you serious kudos if that ends up being the case.


Yea I get what you're saying PP, but merging a jersey reveal (when everybody already has an idea of what it looks like) with the biggest contract signing in franchise history seems odd.
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Post#1187 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:01 pm

Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.
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Post#1188 » by humanrefutation » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:02 pm

Pelton on the math:

Can Miami still sign Giannis as a free agent?
Yes, but it's a lot more complicated, based on current salary-cap estimates.

The first important issue for the Heat is whether Adebayo achieves the criteria necessary to boost his salary in the first year of the extension from 25% of the salary cap (a projected $28.1 million) to 30% of the cap ($33.7 million) by either making an All-NBA team or winning Defensive Player of the Year. Adebayo finished fifth in the All-NBA voting for the three center spots last season and also finished fifth in Defensive Player of the Year voting, so both are reasonable possibilities.

If Adebayo is at the 25% max, Miami could potentially clear sufficient room to offer Antetokounmpo a max contract (starting at that same $33.7 million) by stripping down the roster to just All-Stars Adebayo and Jimmy Butler ($36 million). That would be painful, forcing the Heat to trade rising star Tyler Herro (as well as 2020 first-round pick Precious Achiuwa) and renounce the rights to restricted free agent Duncan Robinson.

Still, just having a path to signing Giannis outright would be important for Miami in getting the Bucks to the negotiating table next year for a sign-and-trade that would allow them to retain additional players. The Heat could send back some of their own free agents in a double sign-and-trade to match salaries while offering future first-round picks to make it worth Milwaukee's participation.

Should Adebayo make All-NBA or win Defensive Player of the Year and boost his salary north of 25% of the cap, the math gets even more difficult for Miami. In that scenario, the Heat would have to trade either Adebayo or Butler in order to create max cap space.
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Post#1189 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:05 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.


We mortgaged our future draft picks only to trade Giannis this week?

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Post#1190 » by RiotPunch » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:07 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.

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Post#1191 » by machu46 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:09 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.


Okay, this is a lot less likely than PP's jersey reveal/signing combo prediction.
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Post#1192 » by FrieAaron » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:09 pm

I wonder which team this lost Warriors fan possibly thinks we're going to trade Giannis to.
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Post#1193 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:10 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.

Yeah maybe like the Warriors who coincidentally happens to be your favorite team, right?!
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Post#1194 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:13 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.

not only do Giannis and Bam seem like an odd fit - don't forget about Butler - he's also not much of a jump-shooter. So I concur that Miami doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Giannis. But... I'm not feeling that Giannis is going to say yes or no right now, and - frankly that's Milwaukee's fault - because he has no way of knowing if Jrue's returning. If everyone here put themselves in Giannis' shoes, why would you say yes before Jrue says yes?
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Post#1195 » by Gianstoppable » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:16 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.

not only do Giannis and Bam seem like an odd fit - don't forget about Butler - he's also not much of a jump-shooter. So I concur that Miami doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Giannis. But... I'm not feeling that Giannis is going to say yes or no right now, and - frankly that's Milwaukee's fault - because he has no way of knowing if Jrue's returning. If everyone here put themselves in Giannis' shoes, why would you say yes before Jrue says yes?

Sure sounds like Jrue wanted to sign here so I REALLY hope for all we gave up we got a verbal from him
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Post#1196 » by mke_design » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:17 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.

Yeah maybe like the Warriors who coincidentally happens to be your favorite team, right?!


How come we're never the team jockeying for a big name and going on other peoples message boards and flooding twitter with nonsense? Lets be those guys.
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Post#1197 » by mke_design » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:18 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.

not only do Giannis and Bam seem like an odd fit - don't forget about Butler - he's also not much of a jump-shooter. So I concur that Miami doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Giannis. But... I'm not feeling that Giannis is going to say yes or no right now, and - frankly that's Milwaukee's fault - because he has no way of knowing if Jrue's returning. If everyone here put themselves in Giannis' shoes, why would you say yes before Jrue says yes?

Sure sounds like Jrue wanted to sign here so I REALLY hope for all we gave up we got a verbal from him


has Jrue said anything? I missed it.
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Post#1198 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:20 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:Bam and Giannis don't fit. Why would you pay two guys that can't shoot and watch them clog your spacing? Miami runs a slow down set offense with Bam at the free throw line....Giannis thrives in an up and down open game.

Giannis is not going to Miami. He's going somewhere else...and I think it will be announced in a big trade this week.

not only do Giannis and Bam seem like an odd fit - don't forget about Butler - he's also not much of a jump-shooter. So I concur that Miami doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Giannis. But... I'm not feeling that Giannis is going to say yes or no right now, and - frankly that's Milwaukee's fault - because he has no way of knowing if Jrue's returning. If everyone here put themselves in Giannis' shoes, why would you say yes before Jrue says yes?

Sure sounds like Jrue wanted to sign here so I REALLY hope for all we gave up we got a verbal from him

A verbal ok is what we supposedly got from Bogdan's agent. How did that work out? Remember, he's going to have a TON of leverage. I seriously doubt they have any kind of agreement that's good enough to depend on.
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Post#1199 » by Gianstoppable » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:22 pm

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Ruzious wrote:not only do Giannis and Bam seem like an odd fit - don't forget about Butler - he's also not much of a jump-shooter. So I concur that Miami doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Giannis. But... I'm not feeling that Giannis is going to say yes or no right now, and - frankly that's Milwaukee's fault - because he has no way of knowing if Jrue's returning. If everyone here put themselves in Giannis' shoes, why would you say yes before Jrue says yes?

Sure sounds like Jrue wanted to sign here so I REALLY hope for all we gave up we got a verbal from him


has Jrue said anything? I missed it.

I cant assume he said it yet I believe it was on a Lowe post pod that teams asking about Jrue were asking about long term commitments
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Post#1200 » by Gianstoppable » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:24 pm

What exactly is the reasoning behind not allowing teams to extend their players whenever they want? Seems like an easy way to avoid tampering issues
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