Woj: Boston trying to move up into late Lottery if not highe

[Frank Lucas]

GS not trading for Pierce.

West has been very explicit that they want to add ready-to-play guys that still have 10 years in them. That is true of the other SFs they have been trying to deal for, but not Pierce.

They will try to trade up to 5 if MKG is still around, but barring that and if no one they like is available at 7 (such as Drummond), they will likely trade down. Zeller is another guy they like. If he were available at 14, could see them sending 7/Wright for 14/Zeller.

You might be right about that. Also guys you have to remember something Paul Pierce was almost traded this past season so it not like Danny Ainge is looking to reload around Paul Pierce. I think we all can agree if KG is not around it make no sense from a basketball standpoint to keep Paul Pierce around for what could be a rebuilding situation.

[The Corey's]

im in the camp that its time to rebuild. yes the celtics had a hell of a run and given how the finals turned out you could argue that they should of won the championship even with literally no bench.

there are those who say that we did have a bench and lost out on unforseen circumstances with green and others.. maybe.. but we were also very lucky in other circumstances. for instance the emergance of bradley, KG playing like he did in the first year and half he arrived here in the second half of the season, playing the hawks and sixers in rounds one and two instead of a healthy bulls and heat.

it wont line up like that again next year. and even if it does, do you really wanna fight for a potential birth in the finals against one of whatever super power comes out of the west or go and get a top 3 pick? the faster the team stinks the better they get sooner..

so lets hope they keep their picks, trade pierce for best piece available and let KG retire and Ray walk. They have Rondo and now its time to work towards getting the superstar every team needs. I'd trade rondo in a heart beat if I felt like we would win the trade.

[Red2]

I've been saying for a while that danny wants a wing player. I assumed it would be a scorer like Barnes and he might still be the target but Kidd-Gilchrist makes sense in that he can guard 3 positions. Danny has to surround rondo with quick, athletic players. Bradley was a good start and you saw the impact he had in only his second year. You add a player like gilchrist and you put him , kg, rondo and bradley on the floor and the other team would barely be able to score. then you sign a free agent big man like humphries and bring back wilcox, pietrus, green and dooling and off you go. the only other hting you need is a shooter or two. My question is what do we possibly have, other than draft picks, that allows us to move into the lottery? the only players that make any sense are bradley, JOhnson and Moore. we are NOT trading rondo.

[sully00]

Observations

1. Avery Bradley is essentially untradeable because of the shoulder surgery, people are going to pass on guys because what could happen to them in 10 years.

2. Paul Pierce and the 20 mil owed to him making him very unappealing in a trade especially to a team that sucks enough to be in the lottery.

[RondoToKG]

Man oh man I have some news to share but I'm said I would not say anything. But man this is going to be a very good night for the Cs. I ran into someone very close to the Cs when I mean close I mean this person has all the players on his cell phone and also I know he has one of the kids in this draft in his cell phone too. But that is all I'm going to say. But man oh man, Let's Go Celtics!

Also I never post any "source" stuff on here and I'm not going to start. But man oh man I'm giddy today and I'm happy I ran into this person this morning.

I get a kick out of anyone who tries to lie and say they know inside information.... you're on the **** internet. No one knows who you are. You're not leaking anything by telling us what was said.... Even if your username is your real name, no one is going to take some guys comment off realgm and run with it as official news. You gain absolutely nothing by telling us you know this information and vice versa. So either tell us, or you're full of ****.

[Kefa461]

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[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Man oh man I have some news to share but I'm said I would not say anything. But man this is going to be a very good night for the Cs. I ran into someone very close to the Cs when I mean close I mean this person has all the players on his cell phone and also I know he has one of the kids in this draft in his cell phone too. But that is all I'm going to say. But man oh man, Let's Go Celtics!

Also I never post any "source" stuff on here and I'm not going to start. But man oh man I'm giddy today and I'm happy I ran into this person this morning.

I get a kick out of anyone who tries to lie and say they know inside information.... you're on the **** internet. No one knows who you are. You're not leaking anything by telling us what was said.... Even if your username is your real name, no one is going to take some guys comment off realgm and run with it as official news. You gain absolutely nothing by telling us you know this information and vice versa. You're full of ****.

While I won't go as far as this guy and say you're full of it, I will agree in that there won't be any harm in disclosing this info. You're not going to lose your job, and Doc won't be losing his. Come on, let's hear the info bud.

[Celts17Pride]

Paul Pierce and the 20 mil owed to him making him very unappealing in a trade especially to a team that sucks enough to be in the lottery.

Agreed.

No knock on Paul Pierce but at his age and the money he has owed to him I don't think Pierce has a very high trade value around the league. Maybe Ainge could get a couple average players and a pick in the 14-18 range. If that's the case then it's better to keep Pierce IMO.

If there is a BIG trade then Rondo is the one that would be going because he has the most trade value.

[Slartibartfast]

GS not trading for Pierce.

West has been very explicit that they want to add ready-to-play guys that still have 10 years in them. That is true of the other SFs they have been trying to deal for, but not Pierce.

They don't have the assets to land high-quality SFs with 10 years left in them. They have the #7 pick and a couple of bad contracts.

[Ben-N1ce]

If it's Austin Rivers it's an epic fail. I don't care an iota about him being drafted by the Celtics.

[cellar-door]

GS not trading for Pierce.

West has been very explicit that they want to add ready-to-play guys that still have 10 years in them. That is true of the other SFs they have been trying to deal for, but not Pierce.

They don't have the assets to land high-quality SFs with 10 years left in them. They have the #7 pick and a couple of bad contracts.

They could probably do something like Jefferson, Wright and 7 for Rudy Gay and his ugly contract.

[bballcool34]

As it turns out S. Curry has become a pretty good NBA player. Austin Rivers has better handle, speed, and burst to the basket than S. Curry.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Cs moved up to get him.

And a far, far worse shot. Not to mention Rivers isn't even a very good finisher and will struggle there in the NBA.

[jond4414]

There have been two separate reports of the Celtics coveting Harrison Barnes. I will not be at all suprised to see the Celtics move up if Barnes starts dropping past pick #5. Which I think would be a great move. Barnes is a fearless player with a silky smooth jumper. He was a great player in college and his game is even more suited for the NBA. We shall see how it all unfolds in about 6 hours. Should be a fun night.

[ddb]

People are looking too far into this.

Pierce isn't getting traded. Management respects and loves PP. He's still one hell of a player despite being 35 years old. I fully expect Pierce, KG and Ray to be in Celtic green in 12-13 to make another push at a banner.

It's one of 2 things:
A) Rondo could end up being the odd man out. His value is sky-high. He could net this team some serious talent/depth. Especially when the Free Agent class is FULL of PG's. Nash, AMiller, DWilliams, Dragic, Kidd, Felton, etc etc. Ainge might still have a crush on CP3 by the way. Who's available outright via Free Agency next season.

B) Bradley, #21, #22 lands Ainge a lottery pick which enables him to grab Austin, Barnes, Drummond or SOMEONE that Ainge fell in love with and thinks can help this team win now and in the future.

C) Josh Smith. I've said it a hundred times. My sources say he's on the move. He loves Boston, Boston likes him, Rondo/Smith are boys. Bradley would be gone. Picks would be gone and probably Bass. Ainge would look at acquiring Smith plus Hinrich (who Ainge loves).

D.) Same as draft deadline. Nothing happens, Ainge drafts #21, #22

[RondoToKG]

Man oh man I have some news to share but I'm said I would not say anything. But man this is going to be a very good night for the Cs. I ran into someone very close to the Cs when I mean close I mean this person has all the players on his cell phone and also I know he has one of the kids in this draft in his cell phone too. But that is all I'm going to say. But man oh man, Let's Go Celtics!

Also I never post any "source" stuff on here and I'm not going to start. But man oh man I'm giddy today and I'm happy I ran into this person this morning.

I get a kick out of anyone who tries to lie and say they know inside information.... you're on the **** internet. No one knows who you are. You're not leaking anything by telling us what was said.... Even if your username is your real name, no one is going to take some guys comment off realgm and run with it as official news. You gain absolutely nothing by telling us you know this information and vice versa. You're full of ****.

While I won't go as far as this guy and say you're full of it, I will agree in that there won't be any harm in disclosing this info. You're not going to lose your job, and Doc won't be losing his. Come on, let's hear the info bud.

The fact that he's outright withholding the information just proves he's full of ****. He knows there is no harm in disclosing the information he has, he's either just purposely being a dick, or he is blowing air. It's not like he's on camera telling us this information lol... no one is going to care and he knows it. Anyone who's got info would just tell us and not be wishy washy about it.

And if it was someone close to Celtics management, I can GUARANTEE they wouldn't be posting on realgm about their plans in any form. He's a clear, and obvious liar. That or just someone thinking WAY too highly of themselves.

[Captain_Caveman]

When people throw out Pierce to GSW scenarios, they have to remember that Golden St. needs to send salary back, and the only disposable contracts of ample size are Biedrins and Jefferson, both pretty toxic.

They aren't that toxic, especially given that all teams need to meet a higher cap floor. They do muss up our cap room plans this year and next, but from their perspective, what would you rather have next summer, Drummond and $20m in expirings via RJ and Biedrins, or $25m in cap room via a bazillion year old Pierce and Biedrins?

[Slartibartfast]

Observations

1. Avery Bradley is essentially untradeable because of the shoulder surgery, people are going to pass on guys because what could happen to them in 10 years.

2. Paul Pierce and the 20 mil owed to him making him very unappealing in a trade especially to a team that sucks enough to be in the lottery.

1. Absurd. We traded for Ray Allen coming off ankle surgery. We tried to sign and trade for David West coming off an ACL tear. We traded for Raef LaFrentz with major health red flags. We traded Perk coming off of an ACL tear with a long history of shoulder injuries. His value may be a little dented, but "essentially untradeable" is an extreme overstatement.

2. Rashard Lewis's $13 mil guaranteed had decent value to New Orleans and they have no intention of playing him. I agree that Pierce is more likely to be of value to non-lottery teams, but Golden St. could definitely use him (to vault them into playoff contention and shed some bad contracts).

[Datruth345]

if you read through his posts and only his posts, it is very apparent he doesn't know anything, his tune has changed quite a bit, this thread is just about dead imo

[The Corey's]

if you read through his posts and only his posts, it is very apparent he doesn't know anything, his tune has changed quite a bit, this thread is just about dead imo

i agree. happens every year.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

At the end of the day I think people will be excited or disappointed that the celtics simply keep their picks and draft God knows who.