Hawks Trade Scenarios For Jeff Teague

[Geaux_Hawks]

Any chance we could get Hezonja at all? Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with Dipo, but Hezonja really intrigues me a lot.

[ATL Boy]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

[PandaKidd]

I think straight up makes a lot of sense for both teams. Dipo fills our SG role and Teague can be their starting PG (like a true PG) and can mentor Elfrid.

[King Ken]

Orlando doesnt HAVE to overpay. Careful you dont get too greedy. The Hawks need change, the FO knows it, and moving a piece you dont NEED for a position you do need, makes total sense.

It's an overpay, I agree but go get that other PG, wait two years. You guys are talking as if your the GM. Hell I am no GM but I know one thing. Getting Teague is massive for a young team like Orlando. Hell, getting a good PG is massive seeing the competition in this league for PG's. If you don't like the prices, don't trade for Teague. It's that simple.

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[King Ken]

Yeah you guys are nuts, Teague for Oladipo would be a HUGE MOVE for the Hawks. I would be ecstatic. Thats a good trade STRAIGHT UP, asking to add in other players you are OUT OF YOUR MIND.

No its not. He wouldn't start. There is more to the game than athleticism and talent. You have to fit, you have the right size, you have to understand the system. This would be a pretty bad trade for Atlanta. Good by real GM Atlanta trade standards but bad overall.

O.J. Mayo has talent. Derrick Williams has talent. A lot of players in the NBA have talent. We not just going to trade an important piece to our team for talent. We need young players who are going to fit or someone with proven ability in a position of need, if that's not available than we will look at valued talent.

We want Oladipo and Gordon. We would love Oladipo and Fournier or Oladipo and Hezonja. We don't care what you want just like you don't care what we want. But if you want Teague, you better pay what we want. You trying to negotiate terms like it's a car. We got a prized PG and we will treat it as such.

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sorry, but you dont have anyone on your roster right now that could get Gordon. Teague does not have the value that you believe. I could see Teague for Dipo, Teague+filler for Harris+filler. But Teague is not Curry/Lillard/Wall.

Teague is a good PG, but at his best, he was a 16/7 a night player. Good but not great. Right now, Payton averages more apg than Teague does. 15 more PG's average more assists, 12 have more ppg. like i said, Good but not great. Trading Teague for Dipo for example fills a need at SG with a player under control for 4-5 more years.

Ask for Lillard then. Watch how quickly Portland will say hell no. You guys can't keep thinking we will get a lot for a little. It don't work that way.

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[bdpecore]

Orlando doesnt HAVE to overpay. Careful you dont get too greedy. The Hawks need change, the FO knows it, and moving a piece you dont NEED for a position you do need, makes total sense.

It's an overpay, I agree but go get that other PG, wait two years. You guys are talking as if your the GM. Hell I am no GM but I know one thing. Getting Teague is massive for a young team like Orlando. Hell, getting a good PG is massive seeing the competition in this league for PG's. If you don't like the prices, don't trade for Teague. It's that simple.

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I don't think you are getting the point. It is massive to get a quality SG since their are not many in the league. Currently it is not very hard to find a solid PG since there are so many who fit within the 2nd tier. The more available means less valuable while less available results in more valuable. This is basic supply and demand.

you also are not taking into account their ages and years of team control.

[King Ken]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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[PandaKidd]

Orlando doesnt HAVE to overpay. Careful you dont get too greedy. The Hawks need change, the FO knows it, and moving a piece you dont NEED for a position you do need, makes total sense.

It's an overpay, I agree but go get that other PG, wait two years. You guys are talking as if your the GM. Hell I am no GM but I know one thing. Getting Teague is massive for a young team like Orlando. Hell, getting a good PG is massive seeing the competition in this league for PG's. If you don't like the prices, don't trade for Teague. It's that simple.

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Its not MASSIVE. Teague is an expiring in 6 months, so, Teague is a move that makes them better in the short term. They can figure out if Payton is the long term solution.

Also, Teague isnt in the same tier as Conley IMO. you are vastly over valuing him

[King Ken]

You want an all star level PG on a great contract who is a true PG, you gonna have to offer a lot. Oladipo and Gordon is reasonable. I don't see that yet so it's a no.

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[PandaKidd]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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yeah but youre asking A LOT(Oladipo/Gordon) for A LITTLE (TEAGUE).

Hawks would have control over Oladipo for 4-5 years. Orlando would only have Teague for 1.5 years and then hes going to want a new contract, a much HIGHER contract.

SG is a much much much more valuable position in the NBA than PG (considering there are very few top tier SGs in the league). IM not saying Oladipo is a top tier SG but its a position of need for us.

Right now our starting SG is 35 years old and showing signs of slowing down. Oladipo would solve that problem for the forseeable future.

[King Ken]

Orlando doesnt HAVE to overpay. Careful you dont get too greedy. The Hawks need change, the FO knows it, and moving a piece you dont NEED for a position you do need, makes total sense.

It's an overpay, I agree but go get that other PG, wait two years. You guys are talking as if your the GM. Hell I am no GM but I know one thing. Getting Teague is massive for a young team like Orlando. Hell, getting a good PG is massive seeing the competition in this league for PG's. If you don't like the prices, don't trade for Teague. It's that simple.

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Its not MASSIVE. Teague is an expiring in 6 months, so, Teague is a move that makes them better in the short term. They can figure out if Payton is the long term solution.

Also, Teague isnt in the same tier as Conley IMO. you are vastly over valuing him

Teague isn't expiring this year. That is Horford. That's your opinion on Conley. Conley is better but to say they aren't in the same league is false. They have a similar trajectory. Neither are Lowry or Lillard who is literally in a different level than either player.

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[bdpecore]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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You are basically asking for two newer model Mercedes for an older model one. Gordon alone is worth more than Teague. Dipo is similar value and if you are still wanting Orlando to add some value it would be in the form of a 2nd round pick not another stud player. You sir, are the one with the skewed perspective on players true value not the majority of poster on realgm.

[PandaKidd]

You want an all star level PG on a great contract who is a true PG, you gonna have to offer a lot. Oladipo and Gordon is reasonable. I don't see that yet so it's a no.

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so 2 guys who went number 2 and 4 in the 1st round under complete team control for an aging PG who will want a massive new contract in 1.5 years?

[PandaKidd]

It's an overpay, I agree but go get that other PG, wait two years. You guys are talking as if your the GM. Hell I am no GM but I know one thing. Getting Teague is massive for a young team like Orlando. Hell, getting a good PG is massive seeing the competition in this league for PG's. If you don't like the prices, don't trade for Teague. It's that simple.

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Its not MASSIVE. Teague is an expiring in 6 months, so, Teague is a move that makes them better in the short term. They can figure out if Payton is the long term solution.

Also, Teague isnt in the same tier as Conley IMO. you are vastly over valuing him

Teague isn't expiring this year. That is Horford. That's your opinion on Conley. Conley is better but to say they aren't in the same league is false. They have a similar trajectory. Neither are Lowry or Lillard who is literally in a different level than either player.

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IN 6 MONTHS = JULY=EXPIRING.

Teague is an expiring in 6 months, that is a fact.

[King Ken]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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yeah but youre asking A LOT(Oladipo/Gordon) for A LITTLE (TEAGUE).

Hawks would have control over Oladipo for 4-5 years. Orlando would only have Teague for 1.5 years and then hes going to want a new contract, a much HIGHER contract.

SG is a much much much more valuable position in the NBA than PG (considering there are very few top tier SGs in the league). IM not saying Oladipo is a top tier SG but its a position of need for us.

Right now our starting SG is 35 years old and showing signs of slowing down. Oladipo would solve that problem for the forseeable future.

Teague is a little? Get out. It's clear you are just a hater. How is Teague little. Let's break down the numbers and impact then?

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[tiderulz]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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thats the thing. You dont know that Orlando offered Dipo. Media hardly ever get anything right (Sacramento to Fire Karl, Sacramento keeping Karl just as an example). Hennigan has never leaked anything to the media since he came on board. So it could have been the reverse, Atlanta asked for Dipo and Orlando said no and offered Fournier instead.

Teague is playing at league average PG. There are more PG's out there than good SG's. I would have a hard time trading Dipo for Teague straight up, as Dipo fills a stronger need. young, good defensive SG. Teague would help the team, but he is not a necessity. If your opinions on the value of Teague match your FO, then no deal will be done with Orlando, or probably anyone else.

I personally think you are vastly overrating Teagues value, but i guess we will find out in the next week or so.

[King Ken]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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You are basically asking for two newer model Mercedes for an older model one. Gordon alone is worth more than Teague. Dipo is similar value and if you are still wanting Orlando to add some value it would be in the form of a 2nd round pick not another stud player. You sir, are the one with the skewed perspective on players true value not the majority of poster on realgm.

I completely disagree. When a trade is made, you are free to tag me.

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[PandaKidd]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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You are basically asking for two newer model Mercedes for an older model one. Gordon alone is worth more than Teague. Dipo is similar value and if you are still wanting Orlando to add some value it would be in the form of a 2nd round pick not another stud player. You sir, are the one with the skewed perspective on players true value not the majority of poster on realgm.

Yeah, i agree with you 10000%.

Dipo for Teague is beneficial for both teams, but I would even say that Hawks would have hit a homerun while Orlando will have gotten minorly better, especially considering Dipo would be under team control for awhile, Teague would be on the trade block possibly IN 6 MONTHS! He could become UFA at the end of next season.

[ATL Boy]

Teague for Oladipo straight up would be an exceptional move by Budenholzer and Wilcox. I'd be willing to add a first to make it happen.

I'm not too worried about Dipo's poor 3 point shooting this season either (he's actually picked it up lately). Our coaching staff has done a phenomenal job at helping players develop their jumpers (Carroll, Bazemore, Millsap, even Korver had his best shooting season ever last year), and I'm sure that they'd make Oladipo a 40%+ 3 point shooter.

You guys really don't understand the NBA if you think this is a good deal. A good deal on real GM is usually terrible to NBA executives. There is a reason Orlando first offer was Oladipo.

Stop posting or lurking message boards, they have zero sense of value. They all want a lot for little. It's like thinking you can get a Mercedes-Benz for the price of an old Honda Civic

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Lol sure, we're the ones that don't understand the NBA. You're asking for two very good young players under team control for 4-5 more years, for a PG who has been inconsistent this year, and is only under team control for 1.5 more years.

[King Ken]

Its not MASSIVE. Teague is an expiring in 6 months, so, Teague is a move that makes them better in the short term. They can figure out if Payton is the long term solution.

Also, Teague isnt in the same tier as Conley IMO. you are vastly over valuing him

Teague isn't expiring this year. That is Horford. That's your opinion on Conley. Conley is better but to say they aren't in the same league is false. They have a similar trajectory. Neither are Lowry or Lillard who is literally in a different level than either player.

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IN 6 MONTHS = JULY=EXPIRING.

Teague is an expiring in 6 months, that is a fact.

A year and a half is not what GM'S see as expiring. That's a potential playoff run and an offseason. That's a lot.

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