Boxing Thread 4.0

Blame Rasho · Post #121 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:36 pm

Honestly it was a lame PPV... not really must watch to tell you the truth.

Butch718 · Post #122 » by **Butch718** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:35 am

What network was the Froch, Groves fight on? I didn't see it anywhere on Showtime or HBO.

Blame Rasho · Post #123 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:35 am

Butch718 wrote:What network was the Froch, Groves fight on? I didn't see it anywhere on Showtime or HBO.

Go to boxing guru to see overseas fights. It was on sky sports or box nation that isn't available in the us.

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Butch718 · Post #124 » by **Butch718** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:18 am

I just saw the full fight on Youtube. Wow, Froch has one of the best chins in the sport, and Groves hurt him really badly in that first round. While I think Froch looked like he was starting to break down Groves and could have possibly scored a legit KO/TKO in the later rounds, that stoppage was complete BS.

Butch718 · Post #125 » by **Butch718** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:24 am

GS Warriors 1 wrote:Horrible stoppage by the ref in the Froch-Groves fight in the 9th round. Groves was hurt, yes, but not to the point where a stoppage was needed. Froch really struggled tonight and was clearly losing the fight at the time of the stoppage.

Agreed. But even though he didn't look good for the majority of the fight, he still managed to fight his way back in that round. Had the fight gone on longer, he probably could have broken Groves down. But we'll never know because that ref prematurely stopped the fight.

Also, the two judges had the fight 4 rounds a piece up until that stoppage. :-?

Groves was getting dicked on the scorecards.

Post #126 » by **blkout** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:33 pm

I have a theory that Australia has collectively decided to disgrace boxing so often and so significantly that it will soon crumble and MMA will take over as its number one combat sport. I loved it when I was a kid, it just makes me cringe endlessly now.

IN A COMPLETELY UNRELATED NOTE Anthony Mundine and Shane Mosley's fight is going on now. Apparently Mosley was being a diva and demanding to actually receive the payment he was contracted to receive so it was scrapped first time around, it's back on tonight somehow. The undercard was star studded, featuring at least 4 fights that could've been ruled such severe mismatches that they should be removed from the card (and I believe at least one of them was, and another couple under review) and a push-fest between a rugby league player on debut and some guy no one's heard of.

Lol Mundine won, doctor stoppage due to back spasms or uh... whatever this means

"The referee came to me and he felt my bag and I wasn't moving,"

Mundine def. Mosley (doctor stoppage: unresponsive testicles)

Blame Rasho · Post #127 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:38 am

blkout wrote:I have a theory that Australia has collectively decided to disgrace boxing so often and so significantly that it will soon crumble and MMA will take over as its number one combat sport. I loved it when I was a kid, it just makes me cringe endlessly now.

IN A COMPLETELY UNRELATED NOTE Anthony Mundine and Shane Mosley's fight is going on now. Apparently Mosley was being a diva and demanding to actually receive the payment he was contracted to receive so it was scrapped first time around, it's back on tonight somehow. The undercard was star studded, featuring at least 4 fights that could've been ruled such severe mismatches that they should be removed from the card (and I believe at least one of them was, and another couple under review) and a push-fest between a rugby league player on debut and some guy no one's heard of.

Lol Mundine won, doctor stoppage due to back spasms or uh... whatever this means

"The referee came to me and he felt my bag and I wasn't moving,"

Mundine def. Mosley (doctor stoppage: unresponsive testicles)

The Ozzies love sports more irrationally than I could understand. Mundine is a legit star because of his cross sport appeal and has have thousands of people attending his fights. I just know him to be the idiot who almost lost his eyesight because he thought that it was ok to clean your contact with your tongue.

I didn't see the fight... but it was predictable. Mosley hasn't looked good in years fighting a much bigger guy. He is also very very old in ring years after so many years. The sad part is that Mundine ego must be sky high thinking he can beat Mayweather, Cotto, Martinez and etc....

On the undercard... well there really isn't that many guys who can fight at even a respective domestic level over there like we have here in the US or UK. People forget that Australia only have what...35 million people. Less than Cali.

Post #128 » by **Rich Rane** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 4:46 am

Damn, Kovalev. He must have landed like 10 punches. 1 was for that first KD and 3 were for the stoppage.

Butch718 · Post #129 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 4:50 am

Dayum Gina.

Sillahk never recovered from that first knock down. That was just nasty.

Gotta love HBO for putting Kovalev on the same card on Stevenson for the second fight in a row. They're building up a fight with those two the right way. You gotta believe that Stevenson wants to outdo that.

Post #130 » by **Rich Rane** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 5:23 am

Took him a bit longer, but Stevenson got the job done too.

Butch718 · Post #131 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 5:23 am

Stevenson did his job. Time to make this fight happen between him and Kovalev already. Strike while the iron is hot.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #132 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 8:31 am

I agree, it's a fight that needs to be made.

Butch718 · Post #133 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:42 pm

I'm watching the post fight interview between Stevenson and Kellerman. I :lol:

when Stevenson replied to Kellerman's question about him facing Kovalev by stating the fans wanted to see him fight Froch and Hopkins. Except no one is clamoring him to fight either guy. Not even fans in Canada.

I mean I don't blame him for not wanting to get in their with Kovalev right away. He could make good money fighting guys that are easier to beat. I just thought his answer was extremely telling. Kovalev presents too much of a risk, in a fight in which he could get KO'ed badly. But at the same time a fight like that could be extremely rewarding if he were to win.

cowboyronnie · Post #134 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 5:16 pm

F*** Steve Smoger. The reason those last two blows (out of hundreds and hundreds) were so vicious was because he jumped in so unassertively and Tapia stopped fighting back, leaving himself open to those final two.

Also **** James Kirkland, he absolutely knew the fight was stopped before he threw that final punch, he was jawing immediately after that final left.

Also **** Tapia's corner. The kid had a promising career, now put him on the heap with Angulo. This kid's life.

Butch718 · Post #135 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 5:48 pm

Tapia's corner was atrocious. He should never have come out for the 6th round. I can't believe his trainer had the audacity to plead to him to show him some heart. If Tapia had any sense whatsoever, he'd dumped those guys because they clearly did not have his best interest at heart last night. I'm just glad that all the results from his visit to the hospital came out negative because those last two punches he took were just totally unnecessary.

Butch718 · Post #136 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 6:04 pm

A few random thoughts...

As much as I appreciate Rigo's skills, the guy doesn't get what it means to be a prize fighter. He has the ability to finish guys off, but he never wants to take any risks. While Agbeko wasn't willing to engage, neither was Rigo to a certain extent. When your audience starts leaving halfway through your fight, that saying a lot. What's even more embarrassing is that the arena was barely filled to begin with. This is why HBO was hesitant to put him back on the air. I've never seen a crew work so hard to sell a fighter. Rigo just doesn't draw or have a style that's appealing to casual fans. Even purists have a hard time staying awake watching his fights. This isn't the Cuban amateurs anymore. Even a defensive wizard like Mayweather engages his opponents every now and then.

If I were Canelo's handlers, I'd stay far away from Lara. Far, far away.

SMH at Judah. He wasn't willing to engage a fighter that has no punching power whatsoever. Paulie was backing him up a lot during the fight. If this was about Brooklyn pride, Judah embarrassed himself.

As for Alexander, he just doesn't have it anymore. He went from being an elite prospect, to being a middle of the road stepping stone. Give me Porter verse Thurman, Paulie or the loser of Maidana/Broner.

cowboyronnie · Post #137 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 7:17 pm

Watch how poorly Smoger physically stops it. He sort of waves his hands around and then folds up Tapia (for a hug and a kiss). He's made far more contact with Tapia than Kirkland, as if Tapia were the one needing the stopping, and so Tapia gives in...and leaves himself even more vulnerable to the final shot. How about pulling Kirkland off? Or ducking your God damn chin and jumping between them?

And grab the aggressor. Not the guy being punished. Somger literally jumps in and then hugs and kisses Tapia, like that's the **** issue - being consoled. It happened in the Donaire fight too, where the ref grabbed Vic not Donaire.

Smoger is the guy who leaves fighters moments from the IC unit, which makes it all the more pressing that he stops things immediately, with some command. Dumb ****.

Blame Rasho · Post #138 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 7:28 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:Watch how poorly Smoger physically stops it. He sort of waves his hands around and then folds up Tapia (for a hug and a kiss). He's made far more contact with Tapia than Kirkland, as if Tapia were the one needing the stopping, and so Tapia gives in...and leaves himself even more vulnerable to the final shot. How about pulling Kirkland off? Or ducking your God damn chin and jumping between them?

And grab the aggressor. Not the guy being punished. Somger literally jumps in and then hugs and kisses Tapia, like that's the **** issue - being consoled. It happened in the Donaire fight too, where the ref grabbed Vic not Donaire.

Smoger is the guy who leaves fighters moments from the IC unit, which makes it all the more pressing that he stops things immediately, with some command. Dumb ****.

Tapia corner should have stopped it way before the stoppage... he had nothing.... it was a brutal war. There are fights where your prime is taken away from you. It was that type of fight.

The doctor could have very well stopped it as well after checking him and would have been justified.

You just can't let a fighter go out on his shield at times.

People stupidly diss fighters for quitting... but there is no shame in saying no more when you have nothing left. Alvarado did it vs Ruslan... and you know what, that doesn't make him any less of a absolute warrior. No every fighter can do what Alvarado did and stop himself because they don't give a **** about pride.

Boxers by the very nature, are prideful guys who at the very core are fighting for their lives.... Flat out the corner needs to help them out if they can't do it themselves.

Blame Rasho · Post #139 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 7:46 pm

What a crazy weekend....

John lost.... and finally... I was tired of him fighting nobodies....

Sturm got a shocking KO vs Barker.... I didn't see that coming. I was thinking Sturm was on his way out.... I would love to see him vs GGG... but that isn't going to happen.

Lara... jeez... he schooled Trout. It was a very bad matchup for Trout. He could beat almost everyone else... but Lara can make anyone look bad. I would love to see Lara vs Mayweather just for the idea of seeing such a chessmatch.

I hope that Trout can face someone who can help him create a good fight.... maybe vs Molina or Andrade.

Alexander... thank god he lost. He has always rubbed me the wrong way and should have like 2 or 3 losses on his resume.

Bika should have lost vs Dirrell.... but I really can't stand Andre Dirrell as well. There is one thing I have to say... you as a guy who wants to win a belt... you got to fight all 12 rounds. Dirrell gave the last round away.

Rigo... he is just on another class to other fighters. I hope he can fight Lomachenko. It would be honestly unreal to see two fighters with two gold medals fighting each other.

I got nothing out of Paulie and Judah fighting.... Judah is old and can't get off, Paulie just has a jab... lame.

I do want to see Miadana **** up Broner...who I think should have a L on his record with the Ponce DeLeon fight. He also looked very avg vs Paulie... who isn't anywhere near a the top of the welterweight division.

Butch718 · Post #140 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 8, 2013 7:48 pm

Yeah, I blame Tapia's corner more than I blame Smoger. Smoger is the type of ref that lets things go on more than they should. Tapia's corner was just flat out incompetent last night by not protecting their fighter period. I was dumbfounded by his trainer's pep talk asking him to show more heart.