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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#121 » by HeartAndHustle » Tue May 27, 2014 4:55 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:Lock this thread up this is a disaster


Awe, come on, playing pretend GM with fans of inter-division teams is what this website was made for, right? I like to imagine discussions like this are similar to email threads from real GMs and front office folks. Although Henny has the brains to just hit Delete on any future replies to his Inbox after about the 4th dumb comment.

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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#122 » by yosemiteben » Tue May 27, 2014 5:02 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:I'll answer the question I keep asking for you...There was only ONE player this year with over 18 PPG with similar percentages from the field and 3 as Afflalo. It was Steph Curry, one of the best young players in todays NBA

Fair enough. Can you name me one basketball player in the last 20 years that can match McD's career averages of 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt?
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#123 » by tiderulz » Tue May 27, 2014 5:09 pm

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HeartAndHustle wrote:I'll answer the question I keep asking for you...There was only ONE player this year with over 18 PPG with similar percentages from the field and 3 as Afflalo. It was Steph Curry, one of the best young players in todays NBA

Fair enough. Can you name me one basketball player in the last 20 years that can match McD's career averages of 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt?


those are absolutely great stats. But not every great player in college is a great player in the pro's. Especially tweeners that arent extremely athletic.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#124 » by cedric76 » Tue May 27, 2014 5:10 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
HeartAndHustle wrote:I'll answer the question I keep asking for you...There was only ONE player this year with over 18 PPG with similar percentages from the field and 3 as Afflalo. It was Steph Curry, one of the best young players in todays NBA

Fair enough. Can you name me one basketball player in the last 20 years that can match McD's career averages of 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt?


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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#125 » by HeartAndHustle » Tue May 27, 2014 5:14 pm

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HeartAndHustle wrote:I'll answer the question I keep asking for you...There was only ONE player this year with over 18 PPG with similar percentages from the field and 3 as Afflalo. It was Steph Curry, one of the best young players in todays NBA

Fair enough. Can you name me one basketball player in the last 20 years that can match McD's career averages of 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt?



Ooohh, I got a good guess. You do mean college careers right? Anybody would be a fool to think he could match what he did against Alcorn State and Providence to what he could do against the Miami Heat or even the lowly Magic.

Here's my guess. How about that one guy, Adam Morrison. Ever hear of him?
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#126 » by j-ragg » Tue May 27, 2014 5:21 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:
HeartAndHustle wrote:I'll answer the question I keep asking for you...There was only ONE player this year with over 18 PPG with similar percentages from the field and 3 as Afflalo. It was Steph Curry, one of the best young players in todays NBA

Fair enough. Can you name me one basketball player in the last 20 years that can match McD's career averages of 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt?



Ooohh, I got a good guess. You do mean college careers right? Anybody would be a fool to think he could match what he did against Alcorn State and Providence to what he could do against the Miami Heat or even the lowly Magic.

Here's my guess. How about that one guy, Adam Morrison. Ever hear of him?

I think they should know him pretty well :lol:
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#127 » by James Gatz » Tue May 27, 2014 5:24 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
HeartAndHustle wrote:I'll answer the question I keep asking for you...There was only ONE player this year with over 18 PPG with similar percentages from the field and 3 as Afflalo. It was Steph Curry, one of the best young players in todays NBA

Fair enough. Can you name me one basketball player in the last 20 years that can match McD's career averages of 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt?



Ooohh, I got a good guess. You do mean college careers right? Anybody would be a fool to think he could match what he did against Alcorn State and Providence to what he could do against the Miami Heat or even the lowly Magic.

Here's my guess. How about that one guy, Adam Morrison. Ever hear of him?


Hate to get involved but Morrison's efficiency was never near that level.

Freshmen: 53% 30 3PT%

Sophomore: 50% 31 3PT%

Junior: 49% 42 3PT%


Career numbers:

19.7 ppg 50% 37 3PT%
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#128 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue May 27, 2014 5:31 pm

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bigdogdylan5 wrote:Lock this thread up this is a disaster


Awe, come on, playing pretend GM with fans of inter-division teams is what this website was made for, right? I like to imagine discussions like this are similar to email threads from real GMs and front office folks. Although Henny has the brains to just hit Delete on any future replies to his Inbox after about the 4th dumb comment.

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Wtf are u talking about. When the thread turns into personal attacks on the other team and listing team achievements to see which is better its time to call it over. This was never a good basketball discussion it was just Bobcat fans coming over here looking to rip us off.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#129 » by magicman123 » Tue May 27, 2014 5:32 pm

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I actually laugh because it's so true haha :lol:


Why is that? Are people holding out hope that he will become great? I only see a solid player


Yep. He already is the biggest part of our defense. And a lot of people of our board do thing he'll become at least a solid player since he is still very young, and has a lot of slashing ability. His problem for now is that our coach doesn't want to involve him in the offense, which is a mistake IMO. Wait&See...

I like his defense, it's the offense that worries me, has he shown any type of skill on offense so far? Every time I watch him he slashes without the ball and makes put backs, he almost has no ability to score outside of 5ft, that has to change....btw I'm glad it's back to the hornets
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#130 » by HeartAndHustle » Tue May 27, 2014 5:38 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:
HeartAndHustle wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Lock this thread up this is a disaster


Awe, come on, playing pretend GM with fans of inter-division teams is what this website was made for, right? I like to imagine discussions like this are similar to email threads from real GMs and front office folks. Although Henny has the brains to just hit Delete on any future replies to his Inbox after about the 4th dumb comment.

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Wtf are u talking about. When the thread turns into personal attacks on the other team and listing team achievements to see which is better its time to call it over. This was never a good basketball discussion it was just Bobcat fans coming over here looking to rip us off.


Aren't 'personal attacks on the other teams and listing team achievements to see which is better' the reason this website was made for? :D
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#131 » by HeartAndHustle » Tue May 27, 2014 5:49 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:When the thread turns into personal attacks on the other team and listing team achievements to see which is better its time to call it over. This was never a good basketball discussion it was just Bobcat fans coming over here looking to rip us off.


How are "attacks" on either teams based on stats and evidence considered Personal? If you want a good example of personal attacks, go read through your countless posts from the past. Whether it's consistently scrutinizing Ballboys for make threads instead of digging through the 500 pages of the Spec Thread, or attacking BMP for being a troll, and on and on and on.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#132 » by Eltonator » Tue May 27, 2014 5:50 pm

to all hornets fans dont trash other teams when ur team havent even won a playoff game yet. stay classy and act like professionals. let me tell you if u go to the boston or lakers board talking trash like that and you are a hornets fan they would destroy you.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#133 » by Radu_Hornets » Tue May 27, 2014 5:57 pm

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Why is that? Are people holding out hope that he will become great? I only see a solid player


Yep. He already is the biggest part of our defense. And a lot of people of our board do thing he'll become at least a solid player since he is still very young, and has a lot of slashing ability. His problem for now is that our coach doesn't want to involve him in the offense, which is a mistake IMO. Wait&See...

I like his defense, it's the offense that worries me, has he shown any type of skill on offense so far? Every time I watch him he slashes without the ball and makes put backs, he almost has no ability to score outside of 5ft, that has to change....btw I'm glad it's back to the hornets


Actually yeah, he can even create off the dribbles, if you have the league pass, you can check the start of the game of the Bobcats this season.

Almost every first play was designed for MKG. He was either slashing either crossing his man over.

The only thing that is annoying, is that he has changed his shooting mechanism...

Because if you look at his form before his entry in the NBA, it was quite normal ...
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So I do believe that his shoot can be fixed.
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Post#134 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue May 27, 2014 6:05 pm

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bigdogdylan5 wrote:When the thread turns into personal attacks on the other team and listing team achievements to see which is better its time to call it over. This was never a good basketball discussion it was just Bobcat fans coming over here looking to rip us off.


How are "attacks" on either teams based on stats and evidence considered Personal? If you want a good example of personal attacks, go read through your countless posts from the past. Whether it's consistently scrutinizing Ballboys for make threads instead of digging through the 500 pages of the Spec Thread, or attacking BMP for being a troll, and on and on and on.

Dude ballboys shouldnt be making threads on topics that have been beat to death. I am sorry if that offends you. There is a reason we have a spec thread if you dont like it too bad. I absolutly despise people who think there post is more important than others so that is why i am tired of a ballboy making 2 threads a day for a week. And if you can call my comments towards BMP "personal" attacks i am sorry but 80% of his posts are a little trolly i respect him now that i understand he doesnt mean it in jist and is messing around opposed to being a real troll. I dont know what i have done to personally offend you but i find it hilarious that you are so mad.
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Post#135 » by yosemiteben » Tue May 27, 2014 6:07 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:Here's my guess. How about that one guy, Adam Morrison. Ever hear of him?

As Gats pointed out, Adam Morrison's numbers aren't comparable. If you're that lenient on the criteria, then suddenly Afflalo's numbers this season weren't so unique.

The whole point of this aside was to point out that there are players in the draft that could at least potentially post stats at some point in their careers that are similar to Afflalo's this season - that doesn't really seem very controversial to me.
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Post#136 » by bigdogdylan5 » Tue May 27, 2014 6:12 pm

I love how the term personal attacks is thrown around here. A personal attack to me is something well personal like bashing someone about their life, job, friends, and so on. I do not consider telling a ballboy that this should not be a thread a personal attack. I dont consider anything i have said to BMP to be a personal attack because i have not gone after something i feel to be below the belt. The only thing i have ever done is call BMP out on his basketball comments maybe calling him a troll is as close as i got to that. However i was calling his comments on here to be troll like not that he personally is a troll. I can only go after someones comments they make on this board that is all i have ever done and all i will ever do. I say these are personal attacks because it turned into which team is better and that gets really close to the line where we shouldnt go like i like Skin he is a great poster but that long post trashing Charlotte was across the line and took this discussion(if you can call it that) places it shouldnt go. I am sorry if my writings on here offends you but you need to get the **** over it because i aint stoping what i am doing.
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#137 » by tiderulz » Tue May 27, 2014 6:14 pm

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Because if you look at his form before his entry in the NBA, it was quite normal ...
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So I do believe that his shoot can be fixed.


oh geez, whoever "fixed" him should be fired.
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Post#138 » by HeartAndHustle » Tue May 27, 2014 6:14 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
HeartAndHustle wrote:Here's my guess. How about that one guy, Adam Morrison. Ever hear of him?

As Gats pointed out, Adam Morrison's numbers aren't comparable. If you're that lenient on the criteria, then suddenly Afflalo's numbers this season weren't so unique.

The whole point of this aside was to point out that there are players in the draft that could at least potentially post stats at some point in their careers that are similar to Afflalo's this season - that doesn't really seem very controversial to me.


Oh, I'm sure you're right. But there are also going to players that will be complete flops, especially once you get out of the top 5 picks. Nobody really knows. With Afflalo, you know exactly what you got, against real compitition, not the defunct Big-East or wherever Creighton was before that.
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Post#139 » by HeartAndHustle » Tue May 27, 2014 6:19 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:Fair enough. Can you name me one basketball player in the last 20 years that can match McD's career averages of 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt?



Ooohh, I got a good guess. You do mean college careers right? Anybody would be a fool to think he could match what he did against Alcorn State and Providence to what he could do against the Miami Heat or even the lowly Magic.

Here's my guess. How about that one guy, Adam Morrison. Ever hear of him?


Hate to get involved but Morrison's efficiency was never near that level.

Freshmen: 53% 30 3PT%

Sophomore: 50% 31 3PT%

Junior: 49% 42 3PT%


Career numbers:

19.7 ppg 50% 37 3PT%


You aren't suggesting McD's numbers were that good his entire COLLEGE career either are you?

Career numbers for McD were 21.7 PPG
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Re: Trade for Aaron Affalo ? 

Post#140 » by yosemiteben » Tue May 27, 2014 6:31 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:
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Ooohh, I got a good guess. You do mean college careers right? Anybody would be a fool to think he could match what he did against Alcorn State and Providence to what he could do against the Miami Heat or even the lowly Magic.

Here's my guess. How about that one guy, Adam Morrison. Ever hear of him?


Hate to get involved but Morrison's efficiency was never near that level.

Freshmen: 53% 30 3PT%

Sophomore: 50% 31 3PT%

Junior: 49% 42 3PT%


Career numbers:

19.7 ppg 50% 37 3PT%


You aren't suggesting McD's numbers were that good his entire COLLEGE career either are you?

Career numbers for McD were 21.7 PPG

Weird question...McD's career averages were better than Ammo's best season (much less his career average), and each year McD posted better shooting stats than Ammo's best season. His career averages were specifically, 21.7 ppg, 55% fg and 46% 3pt, which is what I asked you about and posted.

Ammo: frosh = 11.4 ppg, 53% fg, 30% 3pt | soph = 19.0 ppg, 50% fg, 31% 3pt | junior = 28.1 ppg, 49% fg, 42% 3pt
McD: frosh = 14.9 ppg, 53% fg, 41% 3pt | soph = 22.9 ppg, 60% fg, 49% 4pt | junior = 23.2 ppg, 55% fg, 49% 3pt | senior = 26.7 ppg, 53% fg, 45% 3pt

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