Otto Porter Part 2

AFM · Post #121 » by **AFM** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:48 am

fishercob wrote:I am in awe of Otto Porter.

Derozan was en fuego in the 1Q. Then Otto comepletely shut him down. DD finished with 32 points on 11-29 shooting. Otto got in his head.

Those 2 3's in the 4Q were as huge as they were pure.

11 points on 6 shots, 8 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals, a block and a monster charge taken.

Fantastic.

Skinny Kawhi?

Baby KD?

80sballboy · Post #122 » by **80sballboy** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:55 am

I've been patient with Otto but understanding his ceiling is a little bigger than I thought. Sure, he doesn't really put the ball on the floor yet to take it to the hole and needs a lot more strength. But if he can hit that 3 over 35%, along with his defense and passing, he'll be a better version of Trevor Ariza.

Post #123 » by **LyricalRico** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:59 am

Pierce gonna get lots of love, but Otto shutting down Derozan and hitting clitch threes set all that up. Great game.

FAH1223 · Post #124 » by **FAH1223** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:57 am

80sballboy wrote:I've been patient with Otto but understanding his ceiling is a little bigger than I thought. Sure, he doesn't really put the ball on the floor yet to take it to the hole and needs a lot more strength. But if he can hit that 3 over 35%, along with his defense and passing, he'll be a better version of Trevor Ariza.

Otto has pretty decent handles and stepping into mid range game.

I'm glad he's becoming the 3 and D guy we desperately need

hands11 · Post #125 » by **hands11** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:22 am

Otto (+17)

33min, 4-6 for 11pts, 2-3 3FG, 8rbs, 2 stl, 2 assists, 1 block

dckingsfan · Post #126 » by **dckingsfan** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:01 pm

http://bkref.com/tiny/4Q3qC

dckingsfan · Post #127 » by **dckingsfan** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:56 pm

From Pierce:

"I think he's tired of me getting on him, too. I constantly stay in Otto's ear pushing him, trying to get him to be the best he can be. He's responded. He's starting to play with a little bit more fire," said Pierce, whose first three-pointer of the fourth came immediately after checking in with the Wizards who'd scored just four points in a three-minute stretch. "That's all we've been wanting from Otto. We know he's go the talent. You know the potential is there. When he plays with that edge like you saw tonight on defense, the offense will come.

"Right now he's our defensive guy. He's there to knock down open shots. He's a slasher. He's starting to play with that edge now. He's getting the tough assignment when he comes in every single night whether it's DeMar DeRozan. He's going to have to guard the LeBron Jameses. I think he's finally ready for those assignments and he's up for it. What better way to come out like this than in the spotlight like the playoffs? I'm happy for him."

Post #128 » by **nate33** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:20 pm

So far in the playoffs, Otto has an ORtg of 136 and a DRtg of 98.

Severn Hoos · Post #129 » by **Severn Hoos** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:14 pm

fishercob wrote:I am in awe of Otto Porter.

Derozan was en fuego in the 1Q. Then Otto comepletely shut him down. DD finished with 32 points on 11-29 shooting. Otto got in his head.

Those 2 3's in the 4Q were as huge as they were pure.

11 points on 6 shots, 8 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals, a block and a monster charge taken.

Fantastic.

But how does that compare to the stat line that Noel put up last night?

tontoz · Post #130 » by **tontoz** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:09 pm

Funny how much the conversation has changed about Porter. Seems like just a month ago that some people were acting like he was a wasted pick and didnt deserve to play.

dcballer · Post #131 » by **dcballer** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:02 pm

I was at the game.
I saw Porter practicing his threes before the game started. He shot like 20 threes and only 1 missed one

Kanyewest · Post #132 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:10 pm

AFM wrote:
fishercob wrote:I am in awe of Otto Porter.

Derozan was en fuego in the 1Q. Then Otto comepletely shut him down. DD finished with 32 points on 11-29 shooting. Otto got in his head.

Those 2 3's in the 4Q were as huge as they were pure.

11 points on 6 shots, 8 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals, a block and a monster charge taken.

Fantastic.

Skinny Kawhi?

Baby KD?

Better than Noel?

kirubel94 · Post #133 » by **kirubel94** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:17 pm

Really seems like he is really morphing into something. Proving lot of people wrong, *including me.

theboomking · Post #134 » by **theboomking** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:37 pm

This is an earnest question. What is the sentiment on the board now about Porter vs Noel. Are we now happier to have Porter? He does seem like an excellent long term piece with Wall and Beal, but the sample size is small.

Kanyewest · Post #135 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:54 pm

theboomking wrote:This is an earnest question. What is the sentiment on the board now about Porter vs Noel. Are we now happier to have Porter? He does seem like an excellent long term piece with Wall and Beal, but the sample size is small.

If Porter can knock down 3 point shots like that- he's a really good fit. Of course, there will be up and downs but I was impressed with Porter's defense as he seemed to be getting in DeRozan's head. I'm glad he had the confidence to take the shot.

Noel did have a pretty good regular season. His offense is a lot better than his critics suggested. Even so, I would have to say that I'm not sure that Noel would have been a good crunch time option in this series in a series which requires stretch 4s and Gortat has been great in this series.

It will be interesting to see how each player develops going forward. Noel could potentially be a starting caliber big as Gortat or Nene declines. But Porter has shown a lot over the past few games including the end of the regular season. It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up- he could likely prove to be a valuable trading chip but knowing the Wizards ownership past history, it looks like Washington will attempt to build around Wall, Beal, and Porter.

Illmatic12 · Post #136 » by **Illmatic12** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:02 pm

80sballboy wrote:I've been patient with Otto but understanding his ceiling is a little bigger than I thought. Sure, he doesn't really put the ball on the floor yet to take it to the hole and needs a lot more strength. But if he can hit that 3 over 35%, along with his defense and passing, he'll be a better version of Trevor Ariza.

The thing is, that's not even an accurate assessment of Porter's game. The very first play when Otto checked into the game he immediately took it to the hole (right into Jonas' chest) and scored:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqzUDKuHG00[/youtube]

Idk I assume some of you guys missed games during the regular season when Otto got consistent minutes? People are slow to catch on to the fact that Porter has some legitimate scoring instincts, he's not just another Ariza. Another example showing what he can do, his diversity of scoring is far beyond anything Ariza's shown in his career :

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01H7i0mQSh8[/youtube]

Trevor had no in-between game whatsoever, Otto has already shown great touch on that little midrange floater and has a variety of scoring moves. Keep in mind he's only 21.

This is the first time we've been able to say this since he was drafted 3rd overall, but Porter certainly looks like one of the better young wing prospects in the league. Not on that Wiggins level obviously but a step below.

Illmatic12 · Post #137 » by **Illmatic12** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:14 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
theboomking wrote:This is an earnest question. What is the sentiment on the board now about Porter vs Noel. Are we now happier to have Porter? He does seem like an excellent long term piece with Wall and Beal, but the sample size is small.

If Porter can knock down 3 point shots like that- he's a really good fit. Of course, there will be up and downs but I was impressed with Porter's defense as he seemed to be getting in DeRozan's head. I'm glad he had the confidence to take the shot.

Noel did have a pretty good regular season. His offense is a lot better than his critics suggested. Even so, I would have to say that I'm not sure that Noel would have been a good crunch time option in this series in a series which requires stretch 4s and Gortat has been great in this series.

It will be interesting to see how each player develops going forward. Noel could potentially be a starting caliber big as Gortat or Nene declines. But Porter has shown a lot over the past few games including the end of the regular season. It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up- he could likely prove to be a valuable trading chip but knowing the Wizards ownership past history, it looks like Washington will attempt to build around Wall, Beal, and Porter.

Noel's offense was actually awful this season. Saw it in a link on reddit. He had a historically good rookie season on the defensive side of the ball, historically bad on the offensive side.

I think Porter will prove to be a better use of that draft pick than Noel. Wall/Beal/Porter is a offense+defensive, high IQ, longterm core with great potential.

I'm not even sure who Noel would be playing over on this team. With the skyrocketing cap the Gortat contract is looking like a definite positive. The guy stays in great shape even at 30, he's an excellent fit on the team and Noel would obviously not be playing over him. As for the PF position, yes we'll need to replace Nene but with a STRETCH FOUR in the draft, not a garbageman type big who can't stretch the floor.

Longterm I would take Wall/Beal/Porter/*insert Bobby Portis or Myles Turner?*/Gortat over Wall/Beal/Ariza/Noel/Gortat. Not even close, the second team might be better defensively but would be absolutely inept on the offensive end, especially in the postseason when defenses clamp down.

Sixerant226 · Post #138 » by **Sixerant226** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:32 pm

Otto is a very underrated player. He does the little things that is needed to win games and playoff series. People need to understand that Otto was hurt his first year which impacted his overall development. I am not surprise he is displaying his talent now that he is healthy. He is very smart and has a great work ethic which is something you can't teach. Otto will continue to get better with experience and added strength. As a Sixer fan, the Wizards have a nice squad of young players mix with veterans. Getting Paul Pierce will certainly help Porter's continue development sooner rather than later. Overall, I am a big fan of Porter's Overall game!

dobrojim · Post #139 » by **dobrojim** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:28 pm

No way I'm trading a 21 yo OP for anything less than a bona fide 1st tier star.
The Zards should definitely hold onto the Wall-Beal-Porter 1-2-3 for the next
couple years.

hands11 · Post #140 » by **hands11** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:43 pm

nate33 wrote:So far in the playoffs, Otto has an ORtg of 136 and a DRtg of 98.

Maybe a poor man Scottie Pippin isn't to far out of line as his upside then.