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catch20two wrote:Braggins wrote:Is Frank even better than Hawes? Our backup bigs are going to be Frank/Hawes. Actually, look at our second unit right now. Roberts, Lamb, Hairston, Frank, Hawes. That is seriosuly embarassing.
Hawes was a lottery pick a few years back. He wasn't a bust. He's a solid fringe starter good backup big. Frank the Tank gonna be better than Zeller for us in his rookie year. Bank or bet on it.
Braggins wrote:catch20two wrote:Braggins wrote:Is Frank even better than Hawes? Our backup bigs are going to be Frank/Hawes. Actually, look at our second unit right now. Roberts, Lamb, Hairston, Frank, Hawes. That is seriosuly embarassing.
Hawes was a lottery pick a few years back. He wasn't a bust. He's a solid fringe starter good backup big. Frank the Tank gonna be better than Zeller for us in his rookie year. Bank or bet on it.
That sure has me excited. What a high bar to clear.
Bassman wrote:I remember when we picked Cody. I didn't like him all that much, but I thought it might work out. Not too many options then. I HATE the tank pick. Winslow will be a heck of a player, a guy everybody but Cho idiot wanted. Cannot stand this guy (Cho). He passes on Winslow because he traded for his gay buddy Nic and doesn't want anybody getting in his way. When GM's or coaches reach backward for players from their old days and teams, you know you're near the end of the line.
Kaminsky will prove to be too slow to defend, run the floor, or hang with the newer NBA style of small ball 4's. He has skills, but they don't translate. Supposedly we missed McRoberts so much we're seeing Frank as replacing him in this year's team. They tried like crazy to deal Cody, so he probably comes off the bench. We may score more, but I fear we won't defend well enough to close games. That will translate into a worse record this season than last. MJ will fire Cho and Cliff, but the damage will be done. We'll lose Batum to free agency cause he won't hang around for a rebuild. The future seems darker tonight than it did this morning.
MasterIchiro wrote:catch20two wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
Sorenson said the rumor is MJ loves Kaminsky but I don't think Sorenson really buys it. Cho was at that Wisconsin game and is obsessed with Big Ten prospects.
Exactly. We all knew Kaminsky was Cho's guy. They tried to trick themselves into believing Cho was there for Stanley Johnson. But nope.
Big time denial over their savior, Cho. Johnson had a great run on the board early this summer. I vomited a few times. And yes Winslow can't shoot and I hated the fanfare for him as well but I would have preferred him to Tank.
MasterIchiro wrote:Braggins wrote:catch20two wrote:Hawes was a lottery pick a few years back. He wasn't a bust. He's a solid fringe starter good backup big. Frank the Tank gonna be better than Zeller for us in his rookie year. Bank or bet on it.
That sure has me excited. What a high bar to clear.
Cho's current crappy pick is less crappy than his former crappy pick. And all he could get for a not-yet-crappy pick was one year of the Blazer's 4th option.
MasterIchiro wrote:Braggins wrote:catch20two wrote:Hawes was a lottery pick a few years back. He wasn't a bust. He's a solid fringe starter good backup big. Frank the Tank gonna be better than Zeller for us in his rookie year. Bank or bet on it.
That sure has me excited. What a high bar to clear.
Cho's current crappy pick is less crappy than his former crappy pick. And all he could get for a not-yet-crappy pick was one year of the Blazer's 4th option.
LofJ wrote:Bassman wrote:I remember when we picked Cody. I didn't like him all that much, but I thought it might work out. Not too many options then. I HATE the tank pick. Winslow will be a heck of a player, a guy everybody but Cho idiot wanted. Cannot stand this guy (Cho). He passes on Winslow because he traded for his gay buddy Nic and doesn't want anybody getting in his way. When GM's or coaches reach backward for players from their old days and teams, you know you're near the end of the line.
Kaminsky will prove to be too slow to defend, run the floor, or hang with the newer NBA style of small ball 4's. He has skills, but they don't translate. Supposedly we missed McRoberts so much we're seeing Frank as replacing him in this year's team. They tried like crazy to deal Cody, so he probably comes off the bench. We may score more, but I fear we won't defend well enough to close games. That will translate into a worse record this season than last. MJ will fire Cho and Cliff, but the damage will be done. We'll lose Batum to free agency cause he won't hang around for a rebuild. The future seems darker tonight than it did this morning.
This is exactly what will happen, it's downright amazing to me that our front office can't see that Kaminsky's game won't translate to the NBA.
catch20two wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:catch20two wrote:Exactly. We all knew Kaminsky was Cho's guy. They tried to trick themselves into believing Cho was there for Stanley Johnson. But nope.
Big time denial over their savior, Cho. Johnson had a great run on the board early this summer. I vomited a few times. And yes Winslow can't shoot and I hated the fanfare for him as well but I would have preferred him to Tank.
Frank the Tank is gonna be alright. Go watch him play. He can shoot, he can pass, and he can finish around the rim without looking weird like Zeller did. This is a makeup pick from Cho owning up to the mistake that Zeller ain't no stretch 4 like he badly evaluated him to be. If Zeller a stretch 4 then Nene is a SF.
catch20two wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:catch20two wrote:Exactly. We all knew Kaminsky was Cho's guy. They tried to trick themselves into believing Cho was there for Stanley Johnson. But nope.
Big time denial over their savior, Cho. Johnson had a great run on the board early this summer. I vomited a few times. And yes Winslow can't shoot and I hated the fanfare for him as well but I would have preferred him to Tank.
Frank the Tank is gonna be alright. Go watch him play. He can shoot, he can pass, and he can finish around the rim without looking weird like Zeller did. This is a makeup pick from Cho owning up to the mistake that Zeller ain't no stretch 4 like he badly evaluated him to be. If Zeller a stretch 4 then Nene is a SF.
Bassman wrote:catch20two wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
Big time denial over their savior, Cho. Johnson had a great run on the board early this summer. I vomited a few times. And yes Winslow can't shoot and I hated the fanfare for him as well but I would have preferred him to Tank.
Frank the Tank is gonna be alright. Go watch him play. He can shoot, he can pass, and he can finish around the rim without looking weird like Zeller did. This is a makeup pick from Cho owning up to the mistake that Zeller ain't no stretch 4 like he badly evaluated him to be. If Zeller a stretch 4 then Nene is a SF.
But Frank will be a matador trying to defend the perimeter, or get in rapid foul trouble trying. He played the 5 well in COLLEGE. As an NBA 4 man, he will get toasted.
catch20two wrote:Where is Yosemite?
catch20two wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:Braggins wrote:That sure has me excited. What a high bar to clear.
Cho's current crappy pick is less crappy than his former crappy pick. And all he could get for a not-yet-crappy pick was one year of the Blazer's 4th option.
That Batum trade is pretty bad unless he has a career year in a contract year that lift us into the playoffs but I doubt it with him playing SG.
Braggins wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:Braggins wrote:That sure has me excited. What a high bar to clear.
Cho's current crappy pick is less crappy than his former crappy pick. And all he could get for a not-yet-crappy pick was one year of the Blazer's 4th option.
I was ok with the Zeller pick. Ill take him all day over Frank. The Portland trade was bad and this draft was atrocious. Cho is getting fired.
MasterIchiro wrote:catch20two wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
Cho's current crappy pick is less crappy than his former crappy pick. And all he could get for a not-yet-crappy pick was one year of the Blazer's 4th option.
That Batum trade is pretty bad unless he has a career year in a contract year that lift us into the playoffs but I doubt it with him playing SG.
Batum was the best wing he could get for his crappy, worthless picks/assets.
And with a wing duo (MKG + Batum) that doesn't work, instead of challenge that pairing, he picks Kaminsky. There needed to be a Booker in there to pressure his roster construction.