College Football 2016

bigkurty · Post #121 » by **bigkurty** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:45 am

If we win out, our strength of schedule has to be #1 in the country right? Two one score losses is two losses but both actually could have went either way. You could almost justify them being one normal loss combined based on the strength of the opponents and the actual closeness of each game.

Post #122 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:45 am

We'll probably lose to Purdue and none of this matters

Mags FTW · Post #123 » by **Mags FTW** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:54 am

Tough to put us in front of a 1-loss OSU if they don't make the title game because of the PSU tie breaker. They beat us, and their only loss would be against a Top 10 PSU on the road.

Mags FTW · Post #124 » by **Mags FTW** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:56 am

MickeyDavis wrote:We'll probably lose to Purdue and none of this matters

Yup, just too many variables to be fretting about it right now. Look at Washington fans complaining about being 5th last week. They'd love to be 5th after this week...

dietac · Post #125 » by **dietac** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:59 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Win out and both OSU and Mich will have two losses. So we're in ahead of them. Alabama is in. Clemson and Washington would have one loss if they win out. So will Louisville... so we may end up #5...

The ACC sucks and Clemson is very overrated IMO. It would be a travesty if they get 2 teams in and the B1G champion is left out, especially with our strength if schedule.

trwi7 · Post #126 » by **trwi7** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:02 am

Mags FTW wrote:
trwi7 wrote:So that made our playoff chances pretty clear. Win out and we're in.

Could get dicey. If OSU beats Michigan, PSU goes to the title game if they win out. Even if we win out, you could make the argument that OSU should be in ahead of us.

I'll worry about it when we get there though. As today showed, a lot can happen.

The playoff committee can't say they favor conference champions and then put a team that didn't even make their conference championship game into the playoffs.

I mean, I guess they could do that but then you're going to get every 1 or 2 loss team from a good conference that didn't make their conference championship making their case over a 1 or 2 loss team that won their conference championship by saying their conference was weaker or our SOS was better.

Post #127 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:15 am

Barry's on the committee, he'll take care of business.

I have to say, with the talk that Clemson and Washington aren't that good (I agree, they aren't), I actually don't think the Badgers are all that good either. At least not playoff good. I guess we'll see the next 2 (hopefully 3) weeks.

Mags FTW · Post #128 » by **Mags FTW** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:16 am

dietac wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Win out and both OSU and Mich will have two losses. So we're in ahead of them. Alabama is in. Clemson and Washington would have one loss if they win out. So will Louisville... so we may end up #5...

The ACC sucks and Clemson is very overrated IMO. It would be a travesty if they get 2 teams in and the B1G champion is left out, especially with our strength if schedule.

Houston might beat Louisville. We may lose. So many variables. Plenty of time left.

Post #129 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:19 am

We're playing with house money, with our schedule and unknown QB situation no one thought we'd be any good.

mnstinks · Post #130 » by **mnstinks** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:40 am

3rd best team in big ten and could make college playoff

Kerb Hohl · Post #131 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:41 am

Mags FTW wrote:Huskers hold on. The Axe Game is no longer the de facto Division Championship.

If Tommy Armstrong is going to be out (meaning Neb loses out), I have no idea what some of the tiebreakers are, but it could get back to being the title game.

Edit: ehhh maybe not, assuming Iowa beats Illinois I think the Badgers or MAYBE Iowa/Nebraska winner would win in the event that we choke the Axe game.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #132 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:08 pm

I think well see a lot of talk about moving to eight team playoff this year with how muddled the pool of teams is.

Western Michigan running the table and not making the playoffs should spark some conversation. At some point you either need to expand the playoffs so an undefeated small conference team can get in or simply put the power conferences in their own league. Really if you have no chance of playing for a championship then why are these small conferences even around.

8 teams has always made the most sense. That way you could give the 5 power conference champs automatic bids and the committee just picks 3 at large teams.

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dietac · Post #133 » by **dietac** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:08 pm

Mags FTW wrote:
dietac wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Win out and both OSU and Mich will have two losses. So we're in ahead of them. Alabama is in. Clemson and Washington would have one loss if they win out. So will Louisville... so we may end up #5...

The ACC sucks and Clemson is very overrated IMO. It would be a travesty if they get 2 teams in and the B1G champion is left out, especially with our strength if schedule.

Houston might beat Louisville. We may lose. So many variables. Plenty of time left.

Thanks for the insight. The discussion was if the Badgers won the B1G championship and every other non B1G team ahead of us won out, leaving four 0 or 1 loss teams and none from the B1G.

Post #134 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:20 pm

An 8 team playoff would be great. And a big money maker, which the NCAA would love. Four bowl games then 2 semi final games and then the championship. So the 2 extra semi final games means 2 teams will play one extra game. And during semester break so there is no bogus academic reason not to do it.

I would rather have the argument be about how teams 9, 10, 11, etc... got screwed than how it is now.

And with teams schedules being so unbalanced it's really hard to rank these teams anyway.

Bernman · Post #135 » by **Bernman** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:23 pm

mnstinks wrote:3rd best team in big ten and could make college playoff

Not the 3rd best team in the B1G if we win the conference championship. Really should have already won the OSU game. Took foot off the pedal and got some really bad calls against. And against Michigan there was no Biegel, nor Shaw, and Watt got injured during the drive they scored the game winning td. So there's really nothing separating those teams. Unfortunate not to take one of those two games and be sitting here with 1 loss. This with such a tough schedule.

MickeyDavis wrote:We'll probably lose to Purdue and none of this matters

Haven't lost to neither Purdue nor Minnesota since '03. Should just be a matter of winning the conference championship and we're in. Not that it's an easy task, but they have a good shot, and it's what it will come down to.

Mags FTW · Post #136 » by **Mags FTW** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:35 pm

Bernman wrote:
mnstinks wrote:3rd best team in big ten and could make college playoff

Not the 3rd best team in the B1G if we win the conference championship. Really should have already won the OSU game. Took foot off the pedal and got some really bad calls against. And against Michigan there was no Biegel, nor Shaw, and Watt got injured during the drive they scored the game winning td. So there's really nothing separating those teams. Unfortunate not to take one of those two games and be sitting here with 1 loss. This with such a tough schedule.

MickeyDavis wrote:We'll probably lose to Purdue and none of this matters

Haven't lost to neither Purdue nor Minnesota since '03. Should just be a matter of winning the conference championship and we're in. Not that it's an easy task, but they have a good shot, and it's what it will come down to.

If we win the Big Ten Title Game, I'll buy a Qdoba Hot Taco Bar for the mods and my favorite posters.

EDIT: the title game win needs to lead to a playoff berth

Kerb Hohl · Post #137 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:17 am

Mags FTW wrote:If we win the Big Ten Title Game, I'll buy a Qdoba Hot Taco Bar for the mods and my favorite posters.

Have I ever told you how much I enjoy your takes?

El Duderino · Post #138 » by **El Duderino** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:37 am

As cool as it would be to make the playoff, the thought of facing Alabama in some 4 vs 1 matchup very easily could get big time ugly given our offense and their defense.

Odds are microscopic that we could run the ball at all against their front seven and those weak armed floaters which Hornibrook throws would be picks waiting to happen with the speed and skill in the Bama secondary.

Vegas would have to start the line i'd guess around Alabama -20 and if so, i think money would flow to Bama.

The Badgers do have a great defense, but the offense would very likely get absolutely dominated.

midranger · Post #139 » by **midranger** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:45 am

El Duderino wrote:As cool as it would be to make the playoff, the thought of facing Alabama in some 4 vs 1 matchup very easily could get big time ugly given our offense and their defense.

Odds are microscopic that we could run the ball at all against their front seven and those weak armed floaters which Hornibrook throws would be picks waiting to happen with the speed and skill in the Bama secondary.

Vegas would have to start the line i'd guess around Alabama -20 and if so, i think money would flow to Bama.

The Badgers do have a great defense, but the offense would very likely get absolutely dominated.

Probably right, the two teams that have had success against them have thrown for like 420 yards. But... if Hurts twists an ankle badly and/or we return an INT and punt or something you're playing for a national title. I'll take the risk of a bad loss to a great team for a really slim chance of the ultimate reward.

El Duderino · Post #140 » by **El Duderino** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:09 am

midranger wrote:
El Duderino wrote:As cool as it would be to make the playoff, the thought of facing Alabama in some 4 vs 1 matchup very easily could get big time ugly given our offense and their defense.

Odds are microscopic that we could run the ball at all against their front seven and those weak armed floaters which Hornibrook throws would be picks waiting to happen with the speed and skill in the Bama secondary.

Vegas would have to start the line i'd guess around Alabama -20 and if so, i think money would flow to Bama.

The Badgers do have a great defense, but the offense would very likely get absolutely dominated.

Probably right, the two teams that have had success against them have thrown for like 420 yards. But... if Hurts twists an ankle badly and/or we return an INT and punt or something you're playing for a national title. I'll take the risk of a bad loss to a great team for a really slim chance of the ultimate reward.

I honestly can't think of any realistic way Wisconsin could beat Alabama. Their defense loves playing against offenses like us who don't spread the field with speed and who lack a running threat at quarterback.

If we did play them though, i'd want Houston being the QB. With that Bama pass rush, an immobile quarterback like Hornibrook would lead to numerous sacks and to have any sliver of a chance to win, the passing game would have to deliver some big plays.

Houston has the arm strength to hypothetically fit some throws downfield or across the field into tight windows. Those Hornibrook floating ducks would lead to multiple interceptions. Granted, Bart very well would brainfart his way into some picks, but at least he has major college arm strength to potentially complete the type of throws needed to stay reasonably close with Alabama.