Trade Offers for MIN's #7?

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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#121 » by parson » Thu May 18, 2017 8:27 pm

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parson wrote:The Hawks do not have to SNT Millsap; we probably won't because we can offer him the 5-year max, let him continue to lead our team and still be able to trade him to a team looking for a playoff boost in 3 years if we want assets.


I wouldn't count on Milsap being positive value in 3 years.

You see, I do. He's aging well and his game is not dependent upon athleticism but, rather, strength, intelligence and skills. That's why I have no problem with a 5year deal.

Plus, he's a great on-and-off-the-court guy for us.

MIN is in the same situation as the Hawks, by the way, in that they could really use a great player who'll begin to fade right about the time Towns and Wiggins start getting 30% each of the team cap. Add in that he plays PF, their biggest need, and it's a compelling thought.
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Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#122 » by Streakers33 » Fri May 19, 2017 6:28 am

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Sportfan73 wrote:


Depending on the first I think it's possible that could be worked out.




U have many. Offer one..



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Oak, Covington and PHI 2019 1st (protected top 10 for 3 years then becomes 2 2nds) for 7 + contract

Would also consider a package designed around 3 for 7 + Rubio or Lavine




I'd be ok with oak, covinginton, 2019 first top 5 protected for 3 years, then becomes 2 2nds for 7 and Aldrich.

Rubio and pick 7 for pick 3 also would work for me also. So depends if u want 2 first rounders or ok with moving down..




And with milsap people forget we can retire pek as needed , so that adds 12 million a year. So maxing him is no big deal.. we would love him in minny... he hardest part is that four year max for me at his age.. but u r right in the posts above. He would need max or no deal to even think of minny.. I'd pull trigger. Or maybe make a front loaded deal, to keep a lil positive if he falls of a cliff..



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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#123 » by kwytse » Fri May 19, 2017 4:13 pm

How about Bledsoe + #4 for Lavine + #7

Why for MIN: Bledsoe should be the PG that Thib wants and at #4 you can draft Jackson.

Why for PHX: They love Lavine at draft time and it would be a backcourt with Booker
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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#124 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri May 19, 2017 4:17 pm

kwytse wrote:How about Bledsoe + #4 for Lavine + #7

Why for MIN: Bledsoe should be the PG that Thib wants and at #4 you can draft Jackson.

Why for PHX: They love Lavine at draft time and it would be a backcourt with Booker


I think thats pretty interesting, although Minnesota still has a pg situation that needs resolving.
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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#125 » by wablty » Fri May 19, 2017 4:30 pm

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kwytse wrote:How about Bledsoe + #4 for Lavine + #7

Why for MIN: Bledsoe should be the PG that Thib wants and at #4 you can draft Jackson.

Why for PHX: They love Lavine at draft time and it would be a backcourt with Booker


I think thats pretty interesting, although Minnesota still has a pg situation that needs resolving.


Interesting, but I don't know if I think it's actually any good. How is Minnesota better off with a 4th point guard on the roster? Why are they trading a high end prospect at the NBA's thinnest position to move up 3 spots and still fall outside the top Fultz/Ball/Jackson tier of this draft? Who are they picking at #4 that won't be there at #7 that will actually be a more talented basketball player than Zach LaVine? It's cute enough to make you think about it, but if you actually do it makes very little structural sense.
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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#126 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri May 19, 2017 4:32 pm

wablty wrote:
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kwytse wrote:How about Bledsoe + #4 for Lavine + #7

Why for MIN: Bledsoe should be the PG that Thib wants and at #4 you can draft Jackson.

Why for PHX: They love Lavine at draft time and it would be a backcourt with Booker


I think thats pretty interesting, although Minnesota still has a pg situation that needs resolving.


Interesting, but I don't know if I think it's actually any good. How is Minnesota better off with a 4th point guard on the roster? Why are they trading a high end prospect at the NBA's thinnest position to move up 3 spots and still fall outside the top Fultz/Ball/Jackson tier of this draft? It's cute enough to make you think about it, but if you actually do it makes very little structural sense.


If Jackson is gone, Tatum is still there. Bledsoe/Wiggins/Tatum might make more sense as a threesome than #7/LaVine/Wiggins with #7 not being a third sg hopefully. But that still leaves Minnesota needing to move either Rubio or Dunn.
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Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#127 » by Streakers33 » Fri May 19, 2017 4:46 pm

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kwytse wrote:How about Bledsoe + #4 for Lavine + #7

Why for MIN: Bledsoe should be the PG that Thib wants and at #4 you can draft Jackson.

Why for PHX: They love Lavine at draft time and it would be a backcourt with Booker


I think thats pretty interesting, although Minnesota still has a pg situation that needs resolving.



That is a way different take.. I kinda like it.. makes that Rubio to dallas for wes Mathews and pick 9 seem kinda more interesting too




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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#128 » by wablty » Fri May 19, 2017 4:47 pm

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I think thats pretty interesting, although Minnesota still has a pg situation that needs resolving.


Interesting, but I don't know if I think it's actually any good. How is Minnesota better off with a 4th point guard on the roster? Why are they trading a high end prospect at the NBA's thinnest position to move up 3 spots and still fall outside the top Fultz/Ball/Jackson tier of this draft? It's cute enough to make you think about it, but if you actually do it makes very little structural sense.


If Jackson is gone, Tatum is still there. Bledsoe/Wiggins/Tatum might make more sense as a threesome than #7/LaVine/Wiggins with #7 not being a third sg hopefully. But that still leaves Minnesota needing to move either Rubio or Dunn.


Ignoring that I don't think Tatum is the same kind of prospect, it's not Bledsoe/Wiggins/Tatum vs. #7/LaVine/Wiggins. It's Bledsoe/Wiggins/Tatum with a lame duck Rubio on the bench vs. Rubio/LaVine/Wiggins and the #7 for something else. Bledsoe's presence devalues Rubio's to the point where it's difficult to expect they'd get any more than loose change for him without being a truly major upgrade at the position. It's giving away one of the better young SG's in the league because the pieces fit a little better. That's selling way too cheap.

The ideal solution is acquiring a point forward type and running a backcourt of LaVine and Wiggins defensively while handling primary distribution duties to someone else. Easier said than done admittedly.
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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#129 » by HartfordWhalers » Fri May 19, 2017 5:01 pm

The market for Rubio is not going to disappear because they get Bledsoe. If there is a market for Rubio now, it should be the market for him then also.
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Re: Trade Offers for MIN's #7? 

Post#130 » by kwytse » Fri May 19, 2017 5:07 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
wablty wrote:
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I think thats pretty interesting, although Minnesota still has a pg situation that needs resolving.


Interesting, but I don't know if I think it's actually any good. How is Minnesota better off with a 4th point guard on the roster? Why are they trading a high end prospect at the NBA's thinnest position to move up 3 spots and still fall outside the top Fultz/Ball/Jackson tier of this draft? It's cute enough to make you think about it, but if you actually do it makes very little structural sense.


If Jackson is gone, Tatum is still there. Bledsoe/Wiggins/Tatum might make more sense as a threesome than #7/LaVine/Wiggins with #7 not being a third sg hopefully. But that still leaves Minnesota needing to move either Rubio or Dunn.


Thanks for both of your replies.

Or if MIN want to speed up the rebuild, they can offer #4 / Dunn for Jimmy Butler + Zipser. So, after that

MIN
OUT (Lavine / Dunn / #7 / Jordan Hill (filler) )
IN (Butler / Bledsoe / Zipser)

PG: Bledsoe / Rubio / Jones
SG: Butler / Zipser
SF: Wiggins
PF: Gorgui Dieng, Nemanja Bjelica
C: Karl-Anthony Towns, Cole Aldrich, Nikola Pekovic (injured)

PHO
OUT (Bledsoe / #4 )
IN (Lavine #7)

PG: Lavine, Ulis
SG: Booker, Knight
SF: Warren, #7 (Tatum, i hope) Derrick Jones, Elijah Millsap
PF: Marquese Chriss, Dragan Bender, Jared Dudley
C: Chandler, Williams

CHI:
OUT (Butler / Zipser)
IN (Dunn / #4 / Jordan Hill (filler) )

PG: Dunn, Jerian Grant, Cameron Payne
SG: Isaiah Canaan
SF: Denzel Valentine
PF: Bobby Portis
C: Robin Lopez

and #4

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