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Post#121 » by Bergmaniac » Wed May 23, 2018 4:53 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:Omg some of the posts in this thread. I can’t even...

Nobody, and I mean nobody, on this board had CP3 even close to a top 5 player at the end of the RS. Harden basically carried that team all year leading the MVP race while CP3 was along for the ride having multiple stinker games.

This is just not true, CP3 was extremely impactful in the regular season. In fact, she lead the league in some impact stats like real plus minus and anyone who watched the Rockets regularly knew his high value.

His defence has been a huge factor for Houston's improvement from last season.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#122 » by ken6199 » Wed May 23, 2018 4:54 pm

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naabzor wrote:So transforming mediocre team to contenders is accomplishing nothing? It is better than 95% of NBA players in history probably.

Houston was not a mediocre team last season, and if he was the reason for their transformation, why is Harden the MVP and not him?

He hasn’t even been that great in these playoffs...

MVP is awarded to the player who provides the most value, not the player provided the much needed transformation.

If Harden contributes 50%, Paul does 20% that elevates Houston from good to elite, Harden is the MVP.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#123 » by naabzor » Wed May 23, 2018 6:32 pm

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NBAFan93 wrote:Omg some of the posts in this thread. I can’t even...

Nobody, and I mean nobody, on this board had CP3 even close to a top 5 player at the end of the RS. Harden basically carried that team all year leading the MVP race while CP3 was along for the ride having multiple stinker games.

He has one good 4th quarter in game 5 (not a game 7 - nothing was “on the line”) of the Utah series, and doesn’t disappear last night, and now he’s suddenly better than Curry and Durant?!?! - two consistent top 3 players for the past 5 years, biggest superstars in the league, 3 MVPs between them, etc.?? You people are smoking some good stuff.

Dude is 33 years old and hasn’t accomplished anything till this season after teaming up w/ Harden on an already really good team. When he was the head honcho on “his teams” he couldn’t do squat. He’s in his 13th year in the league - 13th.

Can this board please stop wildly overreacting after every single game. The Warriors didn’t lose last night because of CP3...they lost cause KD and Steph shot like crap (for them) and Kerr screwed up by not calling a timeout. CP3 had 27/2/4...yeah, 4 assists - ooooh. He was iso ballhogging the whole time and so was Harden - Warriors were just worse.


So transforming mediocre team to contenders is accomplishing nothing? It is better than 95% of NBA players in history probably.


Houston was not a mediocre team last season, and if he was the reason for their transformation, why is Harden the MVP and not him?

He hasn’t even been that great in these playoffs...


I was talking about New Orleans and the Clippers... Houston Rockets were good but without him they do not have a chance.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#124 » by Yoshun » Wed May 23, 2018 6:50 pm

I'm just laughing here.

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Post#125 » by PKABOOICU » Wed May 23, 2018 6:57 pm

Curry is overrated, thats for sure. But most of his hype comes from being a transcendent star because he does things out of the norm- like pulling up from 3 and making it from like 45 feet. He's not a great defender, and he's not a great passer, but he can rack up 4 3s in a row and put your team up by 20 points in a hurry. He also happened to have one of the greatest single seasons of all time during the 73 win season so you can't take that away from him, but yeah, he's still overrated by the media and millennial fans.
That said, he's probably still the best PG in the NBA...top 2 or 3 at the worst, and he's gonna go down as the greatest shooter of all time so that holds a ton of weight.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#126 » by 1993Playoffs » Wed May 23, 2018 7:00 pm

better overall player, much better pssser, and defender. While still being an great shooter and scorer. , Prime Chris Paul is an amazingly awesome player.


I love Curry, but if he isn't hitting 3s he really gets abused on defense. Chris paul a awesome defender. So that's not a problem
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#127 » by binjumper » Wed May 23, 2018 7:01 pm

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knuckles862 wrote:Curry in the last 4 years has accomplished more than chris pauls entire career let that sink in

Curry also had a much better team in the last 4 years than CP3 ever did, including this year.

What did Curry do before 2015?


Did you ever consider Curry is the reason said team is good?
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#128 » by thamadkant » Wed May 23, 2018 7:15 pm

Curry is GOAT 3pt shooter...and a heck of a great circus shot maker...

But as a player who out works and outplay other stars throughout the court.... Paul is much better and there other PGs who can also say they're better


But shooting wise... Not a contest..

Were all surprise when Curry misses be honest
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Post#129 » by TheGOATRises007 » Wed May 23, 2018 7:52 pm

CP3 literally threw away a series vs OKC in 2014.

Probably the biggest chokejob from any superstar in years.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#130 » by clyde21 » Wed May 23, 2018 8:41 pm

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knuckles862 wrote:Curry in the last 4 years has accomplished more than chris pauls entire career let that sink in

Curry also had a much better team in the last 4 years than CP3 ever did, including this year.

What did Curry do before 2015?


You mean other than lead a bad and injured Warriors team with Mark fricking Jackson as HC to 51 wins, the 6th seed in a brutal West and then a Game 7 against Chris Paul's stacked Clippers, posting an insane +36 On/Off for the series?

The reactionary posts are hysterical. CP3 better than two-time MVP and champion who led his team to 73 wins, when he himself never even made it to to a conference final game before this season.

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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#131 » by thekdog34 » Wed May 23, 2018 8:43 pm

It's closer than people think but Curry is better.

Paul has unfortunately gotten underrated next to Harden
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Post#132 » by Morb » Wed May 23, 2018 8:52 pm

CP3 '08 > Curru '15.
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Post#133 » by bondom34 » Wed May 23, 2018 8:56 pm

Nope. But he's really good. Top 3 at the position.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#134 » by CeraVe » Wed May 23, 2018 9:00 pm

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:CP3 literally threw away a series vs OKC in 2014.

Probably the biggest chokejob from any superstar in years.

73 win team Warriors almost did the same in 2016 vs OKC. Maybe KD is that good??? This was also when Curry surpassed Jordan's and Shaq's peak.
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Post#135 » by mischievous » Wed May 23, 2018 9:20 pm

Curry is totally hopeless when guarding Harden, I understand Harden has a decent size advantage and is an all time great offensive player, but it just adds to the evidence that as a one on one defender he is just weak. People in the past talked about how he was a legitimately good defender. I don’t see it, outside of a few steals here and there he does almost nothing else imo.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#136 » by clyde21 » Wed May 23, 2018 9:25 pm

mischievous wrote:Curry is totally hopeless when guarding Harden, I understand Harden has a decent size advantage and is an all time great offensive player, but it just adds to the evidence that as a one on one defender he is just weak. People in the past talked about how he was a legitimately good defender. I don’t see it, outside of a few steals here and there he does almost nothing else imo.


Bull. Steph's actually done a really good job defensively the last two games, save for a few lapses here and there.

And really, he's forced to guard either Harden or Paul the majority of the time, two of the best ISO-scorers in the entire league. He's gonna lose his fair of his matchups, especially considering he's a much better team defender than 1v1 defender anyways, and the Rockets' offenses takes that away and turns players into 1v1 defenders more often.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#137 » by Theocy » Wed May 23, 2018 9:38 pm

PKABOOICU wrote:Curry is overrated, thats for sure. But most of his hype comes from being a transcendent star because he does things out of the norm- like pulling up from 3 and making it from like 45 feet. He's not a great defender, and he's not a great passer, but he can rack up 4 3s in a row and put your team up by 20 points in a hurry. He also happened to have one of the greatest single seasons of all time during the 73 win season so you can't take that away from him, but yeah, he's still overrated by the media and millennial fans.
That said, he's probably still the best PG in the NBA...top 2 or 3 at the worst, and he's gonna go down as the greatest shooter of all time so that holds a ton of weight.


With everything you are saying about him.. how is he overrated? Nobody is saying he is the greatest of all time.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#138 » by thekdog34 » Wed May 23, 2018 9:47 pm

mischievous wrote:Curry is totally hopeless when guarding Harden, I understand Harden has a decent size advantage and is an all time great offensive player, but it just adds to the evidence that as a one on one defender he is just weak. People in the past talked about how he was a legitimately good defender. I don’t see it, outside of a few steals here and there he does almost nothing else imo.


On what basis is Curry hopeless against harden?

Harden has been good but not great this series. He's shooting 31% from 3, his ts% is good but down from the regular season, and his assists are down as well.

The rockets won 2 games based on defense, not offense from harden.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#139 » by thekdog34 » Wed May 23, 2018 9:53 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:Omg some of the posts in this thread. I can’t even...

Nobody, and I mean nobody, on this board had CP3 even close to a top 5 player at the end of the RS. Harden basically carried that team all year leading the MVP race while CP3 was along for the ride having multiple stinker games.

He has one good 4th quarter in game 5 (not a game 7 - nothing was “on the line”) of the Utah series, and doesn’t disappear last night, and now he’s suddenly better than Curry and Durant?!?! - two consistent top 3 players for the past 5 years, biggest superstars in the league, 3 MVPs between them, etc.?? You people are smoking some good stuff.

Dude is 33 years old and hasn’t accomplished anything till this season after teaming up w/ Harden on an already really good team. When he was the head honcho on “his teams” he couldn’t do squat. He’s in his 13th year in the league - 13th.

Can this board please stop wildly overreacting after every single game. The Warriors didn’t lose last night because of CP3...they lost cause KD and Steph shot like crap (for them) and Kerr screwed up by not calling a timeout. CP3 had 27/2/4...yeah, 4 assists - ooooh. He was iso ballhogging the whole time and so was Harden - Warriors were just worse.



Paul's impact numbers were better than Harden's and some of the best in the league.

Harden will get MVP due to higher usage and durability.
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Re: chris paul is better than steph curry 

Post#140 » by mischievous » Wed May 23, 2018 9:57 pm

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mischievous wrote:Curry is totally hopeless when guarding Harden, I understand Harden has a decent size advantage and is an all time great offensive player, but it just adds to the evidence that as a one on one defender he is just weak. People in the past talked about how he was a legitimately good defender. I don’t see it, outside of a few steals here and there he does almost nothing else imo.


On what basis is Curry hopeless against harden?

Harden has been good but not great this series. He's shooting 31% from 3, his ts% is good but down from the regular season, and his assists are down as well.

The rockets won 2 games based on defense, not offense from harden.

I mean i missed game 3 admittedly, but i just feel like every time i actually notice Curry guarding Harden he scores on him pretty easily.

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