Somebody’s got to go.

[nykballa2k4]

i don't think wall fits the time table, either. the only positive is that it unloads timmy, gets something for burke, allows lee to go to a different team (where i don't think he'd play, unless they move beal to the primary ball handler). losing lance would be, i feel, a negative, because i like his leadership and presence. just not his contract.

john wall is not the second star you need. he's not even the second star washington needs. he's about to have the worst contract in the NBA for an immature locker room cancer.

love his skill set. but you might as well max out kemba.

I'm definitely not in favor of Wall setting foot inside MSG in a Knicks uniform anytime soon

For curiosity sake, what would the Wiz need to include as a sweetener?
Say draft day, if they wind up with #12 pick, would that make it any better?

[Ignitowsky]

john wall is not the second star you need. he's not even the second star washington needs. he's about to have the worst contract in the NBA for an immature locker room cancer.

love his skill set. but you might as well max out kemba.

I'm definitely not in favor of Wall setting foot inside MSG in a Knicks uniform anytime soon

For curiosity sake, what would the Wiz need to include as a sweetener?
Say draft day, if they wind up with #12 pick, would that make it any better?

I don't want any part of John Wall. To me that would just be making the same mistake that we made in the past. Bringing in a guy that won't be franchise changing and has baggage. I'd rather keep any of the point guards I have now and take my chances in free agency and the draft.

[RHODEY]

What about targeting Vucevic and trading KP with Timmy for a rookie scale guy, and thereby freeing up money for Vonleh and Trier, maybe Mudiay, and eventually Dot?

Vucevic - Mitch
Vonleh - 2019 1st
Knox - QRSCP (Quality Rookie Scale Contract Player)
Dotson - Frank
Trier - Mudiay

[IllmaticHandler]

What about targeting Vucevic and trading KP with Timmy for a rookie scale guy, and thereby freeing up money for Vonleh and Trier, maybe Mudiay, and eventually Dot?

Vucevic - Mitch
Vonleh - 2019 1st
Knox - QRSCP (Quality Rookie Scale Contract Player)
Dotson - Frank
Trier - Mudiay

[nykballa2k4]

I'm definitely not in favor of Wall setting foot inside MSG in a Knicks uniform anytime soon

For curiosity sake, what would the Wiz need to include as a sweetener?
Say draft day, if they wind up with #12 pick, would that make it any better?

I don't want any part of John Wall. To me that would just be making the same mistake that we made in the past. Bringing in a guy that won't be franchise changing and has baggage. I'd rather keep any of the point guards I have now and take my chances in free agency and the draft.

Ideally, Frank would be taking the reigns and we would be offering a max to one of Klay or Durant. We need a pg who can reliably penetrate and create. We saw how fast IT fell off. What makes anyone think Kemba would be different? Kyrie is also oft-injured.

[K_ick_God]

What about targeting Vucevic and trading KP with Timmy for a rookie scale guy, and thereby freeing up money for Vonleh and Trier, maybe Mudiay, and eventually Dot?

Vucevic - Mitch
Vonleh - 2019 1st
Knox - QRSCP (Quality Rookie Scale Contract Player)
Dotson - Frank
Trier - Mudiay

It doesn't look sexy and the D is a question but you are pairing Vucevic with Mitch/Vonleh and improving your backcourt D. I also think Mudiay will be decent defensively going forward.

What's the chance that KP reaches Vucevic's level offensively?

What's the chance that a team starting Timmy is going far?

Also my cap proposal makes room for KD.

Vucevic
Vonleh
KD
Dotson
Mudiay-Trier (flip that)

Is the best team in the East if the backcourt stays solid, and it has depth. Put in KP and Timmy and maybe still best but Timmy always an issue. Again, not trying to trade low on KP ... high I think.

[K_ick_God]

... well I didn't realize Vucevic is already 28 lol. That does change things. Thought he was 25ish.

[dakomish23]

What about targeting Vucevic and trading KP with Timmy for a rookie scale guy, and thereby freeing up money for Vonleh and Trier, maybe Mudiay, and eventually Dot?

Vucevic - Mitch
Vonleh - 2019 1st
Knox - QRSCP (Quality Rookie Scale Contract Player)
Dotson - Frank
Trier - Mudiay

It doesn't look sexy and the D is a question but you are pairing Vucevic with Mitch/Vonleh and improving your backcourt D. I also think Mudiay will be decent defensively going forward.

What's the chance that KP reaches Vucevic's level offensively?

What's the chance that a team starting Timmy is going far?

Also my cap proposal makes room for KD.

Vucevic
Vonleh
KD
Dotson
Mudiay-Trier (flip that)

Is the best team in the East if the backcourt stays solid, and it has depth. Put in KP and Timmy and maybe still best but Timmy always an issue. Again, not trying to trade low on KP ... high I think.

What is this kg

[br7knicks]

john wall is not the second star you need. he's not even the second star washington needs. he's about to have the worst contract in the NBA for an immature locker room cancer.

love his skill set. but you might as well max out kemba.

I'm definitely not in favor of Wall setting foot inside MSG in a Knicks uniform anytime soon

For curiosity sake, what would the Wiz need to include as a sweetener?
Say draft day, if they wind up with #12 pick, would that make it any better?

It's the years that wall is getting. I don't think I want him at all. Talent wise, he may be a great fit. Just think he'd hurt the overall, long term picture

[K_ick_God]

It doesn't look sexy and the D is a question but you are pairing Vucevic with Mitch/Vonleh and improving your backcourt D. I also think Mudiay will be decent defensively going forward.

What's the chance that KP reaches Vucevic's level offensively?

What's the chance that a team starting Timmy is going far?

Also my cap proposal makes room for KD.

Vucevic
Vonleh
KD
Dotson
Mudiay-Trier (flip that)

Is the best team in the East if the backcourt stays solid, and it has depth. Put in KP and Timmy and maybe still best but Timmy always an issue. Again, not trying to trade low on KP ... high I think.

What is this kg

I guess this was a failure. I do think Vucevic is a really really underrated offensive player who needs a certain guy around him. But, nobody even thinks this close. So, I surrender.

[br7knicks]

I'm definitely not in favor of Wall setting foot inside MSG in a Knicks uniform anytime soon

For curiosity sake, what would the Wiz need to include as a sweetener?
Say draft day, if they wind up with #12 pick, would that make it any better?

I don't want any part of John Wall. To me that would just be making the same mistake that we made in the past. Bringing in a guy that won't be franchise changing and has baggage. I'd rather keep any of the point guards I have now and take my chances in free agency and the draft.

This. I want nothing like what the Knicks did with Melo all over again. I'd rather establish a real core, then bring someone in. Not trade valuable, young talent for stats

[br7knicks]

For curiosity sake, what would the Wiz need to include as a sweetener?
Say draft day, if they wind up with #12 pick, would that make it any better?

I don't want any part of John Wall. To me that would just be making the same mistake that we made in the past. Bringing in a guy that won't be franchise changing and has baggage. I'd rather keep any of the point guards I have now and take my chances in free agency and the draft.

Ideally, Frank would be taking the reigns and we would be offering a max to one of Klay or Durant. We need a pg who can reliably penetrate and create. We saw how fast IT fell off. What makes anyone think Kemba would be different? Kyrie is also oft-injured.

I think it's best to find someone in a draft. Hell, what about Frazier on the pelicans? He's getting minutes now, but will go back to the bench soon. He seems to be a good penetrator and distributor

[dakomish23]

It doesn't look sexy and the D is a question but you are pairing Vucevic with Mitch/Vonleh and improving your backcourt D. I also think Mudiay will be decent defensively going forward.

What's the chance that KP reaches Vucevic's level offensively?

What's the chance that a team starting Timmy is going far?

Also my cap proposal makes room for KD.

Vucevic
Vonleh
KD
Dotson
Mudiay-Trier (flip that)

Is the best team in the East if the backcourt stays solid, and it has depth. Put in KP and Timmy and maybe still best but Timmy always an issue. Again, not trying to trade low on KP ... high I think.

What is this kg

I guess this was a failure. I do think Vucevic is a really really underrated offensive player who needs a certain guy around him. But, nobody even thinks this close. So, I surrender.

I just don’t see why kd would come here as is, let alone without KP.

[blanko]

john wall is not the second star you need. he's not even the second star washington needs. he's about to have the worst contract in the NBA for an immature locker room cancer.

love his skill set. but you might as well max out kemba.

I'm definitely not in favor of Wall setting foot inside MSG in a Knicks uniform anytime soon

For curiosity sake, what would the Wiz need to include as a sweetener?
Say draft day, if they wind up with #12 pick, would that make it any better?

They would need to add assets like a lottery pick and take timmy off our hands to start the conversation .

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[thebuzzardman]

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How long is Burke hurt for?

On the one hand, the longer he's hurt, the greater the chance that the Knick continue to sort of move the ball.

On the other, then they might not be able to trade him to a team like the Suns and we'll have to watch him pound the ball and take 20 shots a game when he recovers.

[ChaosHamster]

KG has on of the worst takes on entire board on a regular basis. And thats saying something.

[GONYK]

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How long is Burke hurt for?

On the one hand, the longer he's hurt, the greater the chance that the Knick continue to sort of move the ball.

On the other, then they might not be able to trade him to a team like the Suns and we'll have to watch him pound the ball and take 20 shots a game when he recovers.

He's day-to-day.

He'll pass a physical.

[thebuzzardman]

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How long is Burke hurt for?

On the one hand, the longer he's hurt, the greater the chance that the Knick continue to sort of move the ball.

On the other, then they might not be able to trade him to a team like the Suns and we'll have to watch him pound the ball and take 20 shots a game when he recovers.

He's day-to-day.

He'll pass a physical.

But not a basketball

Amiright?

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[Clyde Frazier]

There's literally no reason to trade found money in trier unless you're bringing back a star player.

I'd trade THJ for assets today, though if a deal was on the table.