2019 Badger Football - Rose Bowl Lead Up

[ReasonablySober]

Nothing I've read about the Cephus case makes me believe he's all together innocent.

[Kerb Hohl]

Lots of players tweeting in support of him coming back right now.

Gonna be interesting because he was kicked off the team, expelled, etc. and I don't think Chryst is very open to him coming back. It's possible that he wants to push through overturning the expulsion and other things so he can sue the school and/or gain eligibility faster but I'm somewhat speaking out of my ass here, don't know all of the details. Still seems unlikely that they'd be reunited.

Separate from the criminal investigation there is a Title IX investigation that the school needs to do if they haven't done it already. In that investigation UW only needs to find that Cephus violated the school's Code of Conduct or equivalent.

It's the same thing that happened to Minny's team a few years ago. Players got kicked off the team because of Title IX ruling, but were never criminally charged with sexual assault.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.twincities.com/2019/02/22/umn-gophers-football-players-sexual-assault-lawyer-claims/amp/

This is going to probably sway into something that can't be talked about (maybe? Is this politics?) but there is a good and bad of all of this.

Reggie Lynch, Minnesota basketball center, was accused of sexual assault multiple times but charges were dropped every time since it is sometimes hard to have great proof to hold up in the court of law.

As a school given liability and as a human given safety of students, wouldn't you say he should be kicked out? There is less of a burden of proof in this case which is good.

The Cephus case is different and impossible to really pick a winner/be happy about. From what I've read, I think he might not have done it and we have to treat him as innocent in the court of law...but I don't know what the number is, in a high percentage of cases, if women are willing to go through with this process, something probably bad happened...and in many cases they don't even come forward.

So maybe in that case the Title IX stuff goes too far in basically forcing the schools to kick these people out without due process...but as RS said, we cannot really know for sure that he's innocent. On one hand there are some signs of maybe jealousy of AJ Taylor being with another woman that night and regret about the hookup but on the other hand, a lot of the time it is just impossible to find the evidence in a "he said/she said" even if he in this case is actually guilty. We'll never know.

[ReasonablySober]

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[Kerb Hohl]

I think getting the expulsion overturned may be part of building his case for damages in his likely lawsuit against the university. Maybe HR can check me on that.

[Kerb Hohl]

Seems as though Coan is gonna win the job.

[MikeIsGood]

Seems as though Coan is gonna win the job.

Not extremely surprising, but I sure hope he has improved a lot. Some reports say he has. More surprising is some are saying Wolf is the clear backup.

Anyway, came to post that Benzschawl was carted off the field with an apparent leg injury.

[Kerb Hohl]

It was kinda a "careful what you wish for" with Coan behind Hornibrook. Whatever he made up in passing/mobility he made worse by taking huge sacks.

All of that said, I think I said it a lot on last year's game threads but you couldn't write Coan off, either. There is talent there.

I expect Mertz to get the job someday and I doubt given history that Chryst is sitting a superior player (right now).

I see it going like this (they've got a pretty tough schedule):

UW is 7-2 or better (assuming Coan), Coan keeps going but maybe Mertz gets a few reps late in the year assuming they aren't in some sort of playoff hunt.

If they're 5-4 or 6-3 I'm assuming they go to Mertz shortly after. Maybe Wolf also gets time to make sure that Mertz preserves the RS.

If it's going worse than that, then Mertz/Wolf might get in pretty early and Mertz won't keep the RS.

[ReasonablySober]

Wisconsin isn't letting Cephus back in.

[Kerb Hohl]

Wisconsin isn't letting Cephus back in.

From what I've seen, it just has not been expedited as his lawyers want it to be. He still could get back in but he has no idea when. I do agree that it seems like he won't.

This will get interesting because he's got a bunch of players on his side.

Chryst said he'd love to have him back but that's because he'd be stupid not to say that given a bunch of his players have QC's back. It's possible that he knew this process wasn't going to bring Cephus back.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Wisconsin isn't letting Cephus back in.

That's not for sure yet. Poorly written JS article.

[Kerb Hohl]

I'm not sure that Cephus really wants to be back at UW. He and his teammates feel wronged and he also wants to sue but I think he knows he can succeed elsewhere and may be better for it...but this helps him build a case.

On the other hand, I think UW is going to just keep delaying this thing to make the problem go away.

[MikeIsGood]

Even with him being found not guilty, my gut tells me that the university and AD don't want him back because it still looks bad that someone accused of this would be on the team, it would be a talking point, etc. I'm sure his teammates want him back, especially Davis, and yes I can see Chryst then echoing that to help keep team unity and provide that front-as-one, but they don't make the final decision.

Agree that UW will keep delaying until the problem 'takes care of itself' and he goes elsewhere.

[midranger]

Uw will come to Cephus with a check and a non disclosure agreement to make the problem go away.

[ReasonablySober]

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[Turk Nowitzki]

If this was the SEC, Cephus would already be suited up and on the practice field.

[Mags FTW]

Uw will come to Cephus with a check and a non disclosure agreement to make the problem go away.

IANAL, but as a public institution I would guess the settlement amount would need to be made public or could be easily attained via a FOIA request.

[Kerb Hohl]

Also if this was the SEC, they probably would've pushed the bounds of Title IX and let him have due process of the law itself when this initially started a year ago. The same people complaining about the current university handling would be yelling at the university for airing out the school to the media that they're playing an alleged rapist for 1-2 years while his trial finishes.

In this case it might've actually turned out with the "right" outcome but in other cases it's just Jameis Winston, Baylor, etc.

[Ryan5UW]

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Alternate uniform for this season... not sure how I feel about the pants.

ETA: worn against Northwestern on 9/28.

[trwi7]

If this was the SEC, Cephus would already be suited up and on the practice field.

If this was the SEC, he never would've been suspended from the team, expelled from the school and gone to trial.

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Alternate uniform for this season... not sure how I feel about the pants.

ETA: worn against Northwestern on 9/28.

The pants are garbage obviously and there is no other correct answer to this.

[MikeIsGood]

Those pants are not a decision you'd make today, but it's a throw back for a reason.

That said, UW on the chest looks incredibly dumb. The rest I like.