CA Governer signs CA-SB206 - LOL at the NCAA

[cornchip]

Will there still be equitable funding across the board for fulfilling Title IX, even if it means every sport get a 10% cut of funding across the board?

Why not just pay the players who are stars instead of giving them a scholarship, then let them skip to the pros? Much more realistic for basketball than football anyway, as nineteen-year olds aren't playing in the NFL like they do in the NBA. Give them the choice at least?

Title IX restrictions will still be in place. But you know how this goes... I honestly think you're going to see major schools fulfill the bare minimum of these requirements to compensate for the increased competition to fund mens basketball and football teams that against those who have deep ties to boosters.

That means schools will keep men's basketball, football, and baseball while still maintaining women's softball, basketball, and volleyball.

You're a women's gymnast or a men's ice hockey player? Well that's too bad unless there is some booster that can pay for your program or the school decides to bless you with some of that football money. I think you'll see the non-revenue generating sports consolidating into a few wealthy schools (similar to what you see in a sport like lacrosse). Either way, sports will likely get cut and scholarships will be lost. All very, very bad things.

Your last point is an interesting one though and may be a very positive thing to come out of this. Can players signed to pro sports teams compete in the NCAA (or California now in this case)? As far as I can tell, the new law only extends to your name and likeness but what about your professional sports rights?

That could be a real boon to both the NBA and NCAA if that's the case. If you're an undrafted or drafted in the 2nd round 18 year old freshman, you still would be eligible to play college basketball while being signed and earning a paycheck from a NBA team. Lets face it, most 18 year olds are nowhere near being good enough to even play in the G-League...this would allow them to develop with their peers, go to college, and get to play in big crowds in games with real stakes. NCAA would get NBA draft picks and signees to market. Imagine an UNC team with a late 1st round pick by the Nuggets, a 2nd round pick by the Spurs, and three undrafted signees by the Celtics, Warriors, and Bulls.

[Clyde Frazier]

Florida, Colorado and now Pennsylvania have followed suit with plans to do the same over the last few days! We're finally getting somewhere.

[Edrees]

I'd like someone to actually provide a logical explanation for why they are opposed to this. I had an academic scholarship to go to college and I chose to study engineering (ended up with a computer engineering degree). I had a job doing some software work while I was a student. Why should I be able to do that, but a student athlete not be able to do that?

I get it - I can see arguments against directly paying the kids... but this? What in the world is the problem with kids being able to work off the court and earn money however they want?

I think the main issue is that if you take away much of the NCAA's regulatory presence and turn college sports into a truly free market system then you get just that.

And that may create a gap between the major revenue generating schools and sports and non-revenue generating schools and sports that's just too large to overcome.

Why continue to have sports that generate no profit? Why have sports when you don't have the endowments or booster activity to pay highly talented players to compete? The NCAA provided some oversight with this but if they're out the picture then you allow corporations, agents, and boosters to set many of the ground rules on compensation.

That's great if you're Zion Williamson or Trevor Lawrence or an olympic caliber athlete at Oregon...but they're going to get well compensated anyway eventually. It's catastrophic for 90% of the other athletes who don't generate any profit who may see their sports get cut and be mired in student debt if they want to go to college.

Nice to see someone understands a probable unintended consequence. I did play football at a D1 school and I know that football is the #1 revenue generator for most major colleges and universities, with basketball being #2, and every other sport sucking revenue from those two sports. At Rutgers, you get 50,000 watching our crappy football team (we were good when I played, yay!!), basketball gets a nice crowd even when we suck (normal these days), 400 watching baseball, 300 watching field hockey...you get the picture. Title IX legislation, signed into law by Richard Nixon, also will rear its head into this. For those who need a quick primer on Title IX:

Athletics programs are considered educational programs and activities. There are three basic parts of Title IX as it applies to athletics:

Participation: Title IX requires that women and men be provided equitable opportunities to participate in sports. Title IX does not require institutions to offer identical sports but an equal opportunity to play;
Scholarships: Title IX requires that female and male student-athletes receive athletics scholarship dollars proportional to their participation; and
Other benefits: Title IX requires the equal treatment of female and male student-athletes in the provisions of: (a) equipment and supplies; (b) scheduling of games and practice times; (c) travel and daily allowance/per diem; (d) access to tutoring; (e) coaching, (f) locker rooms, practice and competitive facilities; (g) medical and training facilities and services; (h) housing and dining facilities and services; (i) publicity and promotions; (j) support services and (k) recruitment of student-athletes.

If athletes are getting paid, do they really need a scholarship that could be used by an academically gifted young man or woman who wants to be an engineer or scientist? Depends on the athlete I suppose.

Does this open the door to new forms of corruption? Probably...colleges through boosters paying agents and sponsors under the table to help steer a client to their schools may get out of hand.

Will there still be equitable funding across the board for fulfilling Title IX, even if it means every sport get a 10% cut of funding across the board?

Why not just pay the players who are stars instead of giving them a scholarship, then let them skip to the pros? Much more realistic for basketball than football anyway, as nineteen-year olds aren't playing in the NFL like they do in the NBA. Give them the choice at least?

I think this type of free market system means that you will see less talent go to the smaller schools. It also will put a premium on acquiring the top coaching talent, pay be damned. College football coaches are already the highest paid employee at a fair number of colleges. That number will increase, and top basketball coaches will become the second highest paid (or first at some schools) school employee.

The almighty dollar will now be out front for all to see, the real ruler of the sports world as we have known for decades. No more pretending folks. Hail to the $$$$$$$$$$$$.

I think you're seeing this the wrong way. Not every athlete is going to be able to make money off their image. That's really only for the top stars. All this does is allow more people to have a chance at that scholarship money. I don't understand why you think those scholarships will disappear or shrink all of a sudden. Things like March madness will still be pulling in an insane amount of money for colleges and the NCAA. I don't think you realize how little the scholarship money is relative to the total revenue of the product. The NFL makes plenty of money and it PAYS it's players, which the NCAA still doesn't have to do.

That's another huge benefit of this legislation. Now there will be some athletes who can make their own money off their likeness to pay their way themselves. That scholarship money will now go to other students who need them; or more can go to other prospective athletes who know they aren't going to make it big but are using athletics as a vehicle to pay for college and get an education. if you don't gotta compete with the Zions of the world for a scholarship pool of money, as an athelete who's just trying to get an athletic scholarship to get educated and move onto something other than sports, it's going to be huge for you.

It's a win win all around for students (athletes and non athletes) and a loss for the institution.

[Roy The Natural]

My state doesn't get stuff right most of the time, but this is a great step for student athletes.

Not sure what you mean but California leads on so many issues that the federal government is trying to remove their right to do so.

I live in California... they're the head of the jackass snake. They lead on stupid issues. Flavored vapes, bullet trains that lead to nowhere, special gas mixes that don't do anything other than double the price per gallon. The state is RIDDLED with over-regulation that has caused innumerable issues state wide.

Despite all the liberal hullabaloo in California, the corrupt virtue signaling politicians of the state refuse to actually take on serious issues and especially corporations.

[Roy The Natural]

This governor is playing up to the clicks. His top priority should be the homeless crisis and the thousands of tons of opioids/fentanyl flooding across the border. Taking on the NCAA and doing interviews with Lebron really shouldn't be on the agenda right now. Clown show we got going on here in CA.

Yes, because there's no way he could ever do more than one thing at once.

And LOL at trying to blame current CA policy for the failed war on drugs that has been going on for decades.

There was (is?) a bill for retailers to sell CBD drinks that's been wrapped up and sitting on his desk for months. All he has to do is sign it. You're not in CA so you don't have a clue. This governor is a bum. This is a sports forum so I get why it's being discussed here. This isn't something I expect elected leaders to waste their time on when people are in pain, dying, being deported, entire cities living on the streets. I wouldn't expect the teenagers and 20-somethings on this board to care. Yay for athletes.

Newsome is also just a terrible human being in general.

[spikeslovechild]

My state doesn't get stuff right most of the time, but this is a great step for student athletes.

Not sure what you mean but California leads on so many issues that the federal government is trying to remove their right to do so.

I live in California... they're the head of the jackass snake. They lead on stupid issues. Flavored vapes, bullet trains that lead to nowhere, special gas mixes that don't do anything other than double the price per gallon. The state is RIDDLED with over-regulation that has caused innumerable issues state wide.

Despite all the liberal hullabaloo in California, the corrupt virtue signaling politicians of the state refuse to actually take on serious issues and especially corporations.

But hey you get to pay 2.00 extra for gas while kids get to blow money rather then getting an education. Don't you feel special?