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Post#121 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:14 pm

Baski wrote:I see what you're saying, but I think it's more complex than that. For one thing, the vast majority of superstars have teams built around them, so potential teammate combinations don't always mean much. 2011 Dirk may have fit in more combinations than 2000 Shaq, but that's not a factor because you're always gonna pick Shaq regardless of who is already on the team.

Would he?
Because if he did (and I mean teams in actual contention for a title) it would mean that it's much easier to build a great team around him. Sure, all top players will have a front office working to fit the right pieces around them, but in some cases you'll always here "that GM is incompetent" (maybe because there are not so many guys who really fit hence it's extremely difficult to get them), in others guys will somehow have career years.
Not sure about your example because I am still wondering what to do with Shaq: almost all dominant big men had limitations in key moments as they needed an entry pass, needing the help of great backcourt players. And this has been true for Shaq as well, but he had a ridiculous stretch of super elite guards playing next to him.

Now, a fair question is how this exercise can be representative of this dynamic.
But I can tell that each of the top4, who are also considered the top4 in most rankings, will need very different kind of help. Those four GMs will soon realize how difficult it is to fill those gaps in the open market.
I don't want to be specific with the examples now, but I want to see what solutions everybody is going to come up with, how soon they must invest on a certain kind of player that it's needed to maximize their guy, and the consequences it will have in the overall team construction.
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Post#122 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:17 pm

flaco wrote:I'm aslo surprised 3 specific guys are still on the board.

looking forward for them to be picked so that i can comment.
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Post#123 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:24 pm

PistolPeteJr is 4 hours in. If in 4 hours he doesn't pick whoever is playing can appoint an available poster as backup and continue.
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Post#124 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:34 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
flaco wrote:I'm aslo surprised 3 specific guys are still on the board.

looking forward for them to be picked so that i can comment.


I can't wait until we start seeing the 2nd round play out. When it's just the #1's that have been selected, we're still largely thinking about them through their actual team context. When they are joined with their first partner, that's when we start to see something novel take shape.
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Post#125 » by Laimbeer » Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:55 pm

So when am I up?

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Post#126 » by Colbinii » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:06 am

Laimbeer wrote:So when am I up?

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Dr P picked at 12:05 CST and it is currently 6:06 CST.

I think we should probably have the guy replacing PistolPete pick before you.
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Post#127 » by Colbinii » Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:42 am

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For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.
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Post#128 » by Colbinii » Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:43 am

Laimbeer wrote:So when am I up?

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You are up at 8:06 PM CST [23 minutes].
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #15 PistolPeteJR 

Post#129 » by Laimbeer » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:17 am

James Harden and Anthony Davis

Two guys considered top ten players going into the season but have struggled with injuries / slow starts.

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Post#130 » by Laimbeer » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:20 am

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For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.


I assume we are going to give Milt his 8 hours to make two picks and then Dr P would be up?
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #15 PistolPeteJR 

Post#131 » by Colbinii » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:49 am

Laimbeer wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
MiltChamberlain wrote:Hello



For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.


I assume we are going to give Milt his 8 hours to make two picks and then Dr P would be up?


That sounds fair to me.
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Post#132 » by Doctor MJ » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:51 am

Laimbeer wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
MiltChamberlain wrote:Hello



For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.


I assume we are going to give Milt his 8 hours to make two picks and then Dr P would be up?


Definitely up to Ryoga, but question:

When was the last confirmation we got from Milt that he was interested? If it's not recent, then he might have forgotten about the project too. Generally I don't think 8 hours of time is required for someone brought in as an alternate.
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Post#133 » by confucius » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:10 am

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Laimbeer wrote:
Colbinii wrote:

For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.


I assume we are going to give Milt his 8 hours to make two picks and then Dr P would be up?


Definitely up to Ryoga, but question:

When was the last confirmation we got from Milt that he was interested? If it's not recent, then he might have forgotten about the project too. Generally I don't think 8 hours of time is required for someone brought in as an alternate.


I know Milt. I think he is AFK at that moment, but really wanted to do this draft.
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #15 PistolPeteJR 

Post#134 » by MiltChamberlain » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:16 am

Colbinii wrote:
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For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.
Okay give me a few to check out the board

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Post#135 » by Colbinii » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:18 am

MiltChamberlain wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
MiltChamberlain wrote:Hello



For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.
Okay give me a few to check out the board

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You have 2 picks to make.
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Post#136 » by MiltChamberlain » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:30 am

Colbinii wrote:
MiltChamberlain wrote:
Colbinii wrote:

For the good of the game, you may pick in 25 minutes at 8:06 PM CST.
Okay give me a few to check out the board

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You have 2 picks to make.
Jayson Tatum and LaMelo Ball

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Post#137 » by Colbinii » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:38 am

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Post#138 » by eminence » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:50 am

LaMelo is a bold one, but I like it.
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Re: Build Your Realistic Team - Draft started: #15 PistolPeteJR 

Post#139 » by Doctor MJ » Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:51 am

MiltChamberlain wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
MiltChamberlain wrote:Okay give me a few to check out the board

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You have 2 picks to make.
Jayson Tatum and LaMelo Ball

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Post#140 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:20 am

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