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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread 

Post#121 » by LikeABosh » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:30 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:I’m getting the sense that most of Packers fans are ready to move on from Rodgers. If he can’t be the same guy in the postseason it doesn’t justify the salary.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jordan Love can score 10 points in a playoff game. Unfortunately I don't think he's getting us 13 wins every year either
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread 

Post#122 » by raysbookclub » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:32 am

I've always liked Bridgewater, and I would be happy to see GB sign him. Not so much to play but just for the kind of person he seems to be; seems like he'd be a good vet guy to be with Love and Benkert in the QB room.
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Post#124 » by humanrefutation » Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:19 am

If they do move on from Rodgers, I think it's likely they'll pursue a veteran backup for Love. Not necessarily to give him competition, but as security in case of injury and to give him someone to talk to and learn from.

But I agree that I don't want to bring in a guy to actually play meaningful snaps. You have to throw Love out there and see what you get from him during the season.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread 

Post#125 » by th87 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:26 am

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Bridgewater would win us 8-9 games. Would rather win 4 or so with Love, load up in the next draft, and then see what's up at the end of next season. If Love somehow wins 9, we have hit the jackpot again, and the analysis changes.


I don't like that I am 'championing' for Bridgewater, because I don't really want to, but with that said, I feel like his skill set is a great fit for MLF playcalling and given the state of the nfc north, I really wouldn't be shocked if we are able to bring most everyone back AND the team doesn't think Love is ready to start yet (again, this is my personal preference), he could sneak us into the playoffs.

All comes down to how ready the front office feels Love is.


I hear you, but I'm not really trying to sneak into the playoffs to get trounced by a contender.
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Post#126 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:33 pm

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I don't like that I am 'championing' for Bridgewater, because I don't really want to, but with that said, I feel like his skill set is a great fit for MLF playcalling and given the state of the nfc north, I really wouldn't be shocked if we are able to bring most everyone back AND the team doesn't think Love is ready to start yet (again, this is my personal preference), he could sneak us into the playoffs.

All comes down to how ready the front office feels Love is.


I hear you, but I'm not really trying to sneak into the playoffs to get trounced by a contender.


The Packers have really only been good in the playoffs as underdogs anyway. Parity and "anything can happen" is part of the fun in the NFL. And the Packers have been contenders who got beat by teams that snuck into the playoffs many times in the last decade+.
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Post#127 » by jute2003 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:58 pm

Seriously,

#12 hasn't been doing himself any favors when he's opened his mouth in the last month.

He is certainly taking the sting out of the potential divorce.
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Post#128 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:32 pm

For the life of me, I don't understand the notion that they can't trade him within the NFC. My dream scenario would be going 10-7 with a great run game and good defense and beating his new team in the divisional round. But even if you think trading him is an automatic rebuild, then who cares if he's in the NFC for a few years?
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Post#129 » by Finn » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:17 pm

Yup. If a trade is the solution, take the best offer. Period.
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Post#130 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:17 pm

Keep in mind Rodgers reworked contract let's him retire without having to give back any of his bonuses. This essentially allows him to block any trade he doesn't like by threatening to retire. Packers can play hardball and force his hand on this but I don't think anyone wants a huge ugly mess this off-season.

If Rodgers wants to come back to the pack they will let him and if he doesn't I think they'll work with him to get him where he wants to go.

Last off-season was the packs chance to trade him with leverage. This off-season not so much, but that was the trade off for getting him to report to camp this summer.

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Post#131 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:20 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Keep in mind Rodgers reworked contract let's him retire without having to give back any of his bonuses. This essentially allows him to block any trade he doesn't like by threatening to retire. Packers can play hardball and force his hand on this but I don't think anyone wants a huge ugly mess this off-season.

If Rodgers wants to come back to the pack they will let him and if he doesn't I think they'll work with him to get him where he wants to go.

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Yup. Rodgers is going to go where he wants to. The Packers only hope is he helps the team out in trade negotiations.
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Post#132 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:23 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Keep in mind Rodgers reworked contract let's him retire without having to give back any of his bonuses. This essentially allows him to block any trade he doesn't like by threatening to retire. Packers can play hardball and force his hand on this but I don't think anyone wants a huge ugly mess this off-season.

If Rodgers wants to come back to the pack they will let him and if he doesn't I think they'll work with him to get him where he wants to go.



Yeah, I'm not suggesting they can trade him anywhere, but I just think ruling out NFC teams would be cutting off their nose to spite their face. It's going to be hard enough to get any sort of bidding war going among his preferred options without ruling out half the league in advance.

You also kind of need him to be open-minded about staying just to have enough leverage to maximize your trade return too. There's a big difference between choosing between GB and, say, Denver, in which case GB still has leverage, as opposed to just forcing his way to Denver.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread 

Post#133 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:25 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Keep in mind Rodgers reworked contract let's him retire without having to give back any of his bonuses. This essentially allows him to block any trade he doesn't like by threatening to retire. Packers can play hardball and force his hand on this but I don't think anyone wants a huge ugly mess this off-season.

If Rodgers wants to come back to the pack they will let him and if he doesn't I think they'll work with him to get him where he wants to go.

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Yup. Rodgers is going to go where he wants to. The Packers only hope is he helps the team out in trade negotiations.
Yup. But should be noted the Pack aren't without any leverage. The acquiring team needs to pony up some acceptable level of compensation or the Pack can tell Rodgers to **** off and retire.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread 

Post#134 » by M-C-G » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:48 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Keep in mind Rodgers reworked contract let's him retire without having to give back any of his bonuses. This essentially allows him to block any trade he doesn't like by threatening to retire. Packers can play hardball and force his hand on this but I don't think anyone wants a huge ugly mess this off-season.

If Rodgers wants to come back to the pack they will let him and if he doesn't I think they'll work with him to get him where he wants to go.

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Yup. Rodgers is going to go where he wants to. The Packers only hope is he helps the team out in trade negotiations.
Yup. But should be noted the Pack aren't without any leverage. The acquiring team needs to pony up some acceptable level of compensation or the Pack can tell Rodgers to **** off and retire.

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Does anyone think for a second that Rodgers would accept being traded for less than what Stafford was traded for? I think, assuming he wants to keep playing, he would probably want to be traded for more than anyone else has ever been traded for with regard to picks.
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Post#135 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:56 pm

M-C-G wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
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Yup. Rodgers is going to go where he wants to. The Packers only hope is he helps the team out in trade negotiations.
Yup. But should be noted the Pack aren't without any leverage. The acquiring team needs to pony up some acceptable level of compensation or the Pack can tell Rodgers to **** off and retire.

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Does anyone think for a second that Rodgers would accept being traded for less than what Stafford was traded for? I think, assuming he wants to keep playing, he would probably want to be traded for more than anyone else has ever been traded for with regard to picks.
I never thought of it like that but you might have a point. :)

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Post#136 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:04 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Yup. But should be noted the Pack aren't without any leverage. The acquiring team needs to pony up some acceptable level of compensation or the Pack can tell Rodgers to **** off and retire.

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Does anyone think for a second that Rodgers would accept being traded for less than what Stafford was traded for? I think, assuming he wants to keep playing, he would probably want to be traded for more than anyone else has ever been traded for with regard to picks.
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I don't know why he would want to gut the team he's getting moved to.
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Post#137 » by M-C-G » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:23 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Does anyone think for a second that Rodgers would accept being traded for less than what Stafford was traded for? I think, assuming he wants to keep playing, he would probably want to be traded for more than anyone else has ever been traded for with regard to picks.
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I don't know why he would want to gut the team he's getting moved to.


Why would he want to leave a team that has won 39 games in three years, with a great headcoach, a bunch of all pro level talent for a team that just was bad enough to get the 9th pick in the draft (assuming it is Denver)?

Why is he always looking for the extension to his current contract that makes him the highest paid player?

Answer, he has a massive ego that has worked for him and against him, no reason to think he will just set that aside right now. That's my guess anyway.
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Post#138 » by RRyder823 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:03 pm

With what the Eagles got for Wentz and the Lions got for Stafford its a pretty safe bet the Packers are getting at least 2 first round picks for Rodgers. Probably closer to 2 firsts and a 2nd. If the list of teams he is willing to go to is 3 or more then add on a conditional 3 for starters

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Post#139 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:01 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Keep in mind Rodgers reworked contract let's him retire without having to give back any of his bonuses. This essentially allows him to block any trade he doesn't like by threatening to retire. Packers can play hardball and force his hand on this but I don't think anyone wants a huge ugly mess this off-season.

If Rodgers wants to come back to the pack they will let him and if he doesn't I think they'll work with him to get him where he wants to go.

Last off-season was the packs chance to trade him with leverage. This off-season not so much, but that was the trade off for getting him to report to camp this summer.

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You really think Rodgers is going to walk away from what $40m and 'retire' in one of his last chances as an elite QB? I dont, but could see him being a dick and threaten to hold out all pre-season
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Post#140 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:02 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Why would he want to leave a team that has won 39 games in three years, with a great headcoach, a bunch of all pro level talent for a team that just was bad enough to get the 9th pick in the draft (assuming it is Denver)?


To screw over packers management and the fans he felt betrayed him?

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