Rumor: Randle wants OUT!?

[RHODEY]

In the final minute last week of the Charlotte laugher, Randle left the bench, then stayed in the tunnel with a public relations staffer. But that’s nothing compared to his decision to no longer participate in the pregame starting lineup introductions for road games — choosing instead to stay in the back to warm up.

Sources contend a lack of leadership from Randle has hurt the club this season. One source said Randle sometimes dresses by himself in another area of the locker room.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/29/julius-randle-could-be-forcing-way-off-knicks-in-james-harden-type-of-way/

''One source said Randle sometimes dresses by himself in another area of the locker room." Maybe he'll start dressing in the other team's locker room so Leon gets the hint!

Last time that happened was....

[3toheadmelo]

the thing about trading him for westbrick is that i feel like the knicks would try to resign him. dolan thirsty for those "big names". that's why we went after kemba too and we're stuck with him. plus i am pretty sure you can get more value out of him. randle is a walking 20/10/5. im sure you can do better than westbrick.

I'm terrified of that trade. It's all fun and games until you have a team catering to Westbrook.

it's a bad panic trade. if that's the best you can get, i'd rather be stuck with randle or build up his value until you can get something better. there's no player that holds a team back more than westbrook. like how you play with bron and you can't even make it to the playoffs? i aint never seen something like that

[Clyde_Style]

Just came across this tweet and I've been saying all year that Randle rebounds are fugazi...he seeks out easy ones, steal them from teammates and never battle for the ones we need. well.. here are the stats.

Read on Twitter

been saying this for a long time now. Randle is a stat whore. He plays the game solely to pad his stats. He's not interested in the team's success

for example, I said it last week that many of his assists are bail out passes from dribbling into double coverage. He's not in control when he does this, but some people attribute this to his "gravity" blah blah blah because he draws coverage. No, he dribbles INTO coverage, then throws these random bail-out passes. Many of his assists are makes by our outside shooting bailing Randle out

[dukeknicksirish]

Randle wants out, we want Zion, find a 3rd team to take Randle and get a 3 team trade going !

[oldshoolballer]

The reality is every single Knicks fan should be happy with this leak. If Randle wants out and is traded it resets the timeline of our team build. No more delusions of tryna get him ready now talent to help become a treadmill team. Maybe RJ, Obi, IQ, Grimes breaking out (and hopefully Cam, Miles and/or Rokas next year) will force us to finally truly invest in a youth movement.

I agree with this.

[Capn'O]

the thing about trading him for westbrick is that i feel like the knicks would try to resign him. dolan thirsty for those "big names". that's why we went after kemba too and we're stuck with him. plus i am pretty sure you can get more value out of him. randle is a walking 20/10/5. im sure you can do better than westbrick.

I'm terrified of that trade. It's all fun and games until you have a team catering to Westbrook.

it's a bad panic trade. if that's the best you can get, i'd rather be stuck with randle or build up his value until you can get something better. there's no player that holds a team back more than westbrook. like how you play with bron and you can't even make it to the playoffs? i aint never seen something like that

Yup. Like I said in the PG thread - Simmons literally refused to play for the Sixers all year and Morey was still able to drum up enough interest to put together a package for Harden. Randle ain't pulling that but have some damn pride.

[Juco24]

Berman article stating how much of cancer Randle is behind the scenes is just …

I really don’t know what to say.

It’s hilarious how after all his transgressions this punkass still has fanboys. He got a whole cheerleading section of our forum. Albeit a small herb weirdo corner, but still…

I have to be completely honest, even after his terrible first year, I was still on the Randle train, even though I complained the whole time. Not because I thought he was a bum but because I knew he was better than what he was showing and I blamed a lot of it on Fiz.

I officially turned this year and won't be back, I could care less about his good games. The selfishness, lack of effort, accountability and self awareness, tantrums, fights with teammates, assistant coaches, and opposing players, dodging the media, the whole thumbs down, his wife coming at CP lying on him, how it was rumored that he was happy Kemba got benched.. it's all to0 much and I don't see how anyone is still a fan of Randle's and knick fan at this point.

I was a huge Randle defender during and initially after the Fizdumb era. I initially soured on Randle after his fake thug act alongside Bullock in the playoffs... and it's been downhill from there. Dude does not put the team first and will not/can not accept his flaws. Which is why he CONTINUALLY turns the ball over, has bad games and blames coaches, teammates, referees and the FANS for his poor play. So many want to make this about Obi or RJ, but the fact is Randle has played like butt and has been/is being a butt!!

[seren]

Randle wants out, we want Zion, find a 3rd team to take Randle and get a 3 team trade going !

You may not even need a third team.

[seren]

Graham plus Zion for Randle works under checker. We would probably need to add half of the young guards (IQ, McBride) and zillion picks

[CDAZ]

the thing about trading him for westbrick is that i feel like the knicks would try to resign him. dolan thirsty for those "big names". that's why we went after kemba too and we're stuck with him. plus i am pretty sure you can get more value out of him. randle is a walking 20/10/5. im sure you can do better than westbrick.

What value does he really have if that 20/10/5 are just empty stats? His numbers have lead to jack chit since he's been in a Knicks uniform.

[CDAZ]

Just came across this tweet and I've been saying all year that Randle rebounds are fugazi...he seeks out easy ones, steal them from teammates and never battle for the ones we need. well.. here are the stats.

Read on Twitter

BOOM

[Vampirate]

the thing about trading him for westbrick is that i feel like the knicks would try to resign him. dolan thirsty for those "big names". that's why we went after kemba too and we're stuck with him. plus i am pretty sure you can get more value out of him. randle is a walking 20/10/5. im sure you can do better than westbrick.

Coming from an outside perspective, you guys need to suck, a lot for top 10 picks while developing RJ.

Westbrook would basically be your tank commander while being a catchy big name.

Randle is just good enough in the RS to ruin lotto chances. Westbrook will age worse and worse, ensuring your team is sub 400 or worse, meaning better lotto odds.

[3toheadmelo]

the thing about trading him for westbrick is that i feel like the knicks would try to resign him. dolan thirsty for those "big names". that's why we went after kemba too and we're stuck with him. plus i am pretty sure you can get more value out of him. randle is a walking 20/10/5. im sure you can do better than westbrick.

What value does he really have if that 20/10/5 are just empty stats? His numbers have lead to jack chit since he's been in a Knicks uniform.

it did last year. there's a much better player in him if he's held acccountable. we saw it last year.

[CDAZ]

it's a bit disappointing too cause randle asked Leon and Wes to get him a coach to hold him accountable. he wanted that. and thibs is letting him do whatever he wants instead of getting him to play the right way. it worked for one year but he stopped doing it this year and it's all been down hill for the both of them.

They said that this was his problem in Minny as well. He couldn't control Kat and Jimmy and it became a toxic environment. He gets his reputation from his years with Rose, but let's be honest, Rose is an introvert who brothers kept him in check. I believe that's the reason we surrounded thibs with a strong coaching staff - Woodson, Payne, Bryant .. because it's already known around the league that he can't manage players.

it sucks cause you know how good randle can be when he's held accountable. now thibs lost him and it's headed towards a bad end unless something magically changes next season.

I dunno if it me but this reads like you're shifting blame and responsibility on thibs for randles play and behavior.

[oldshoolballer]

Randle shuffling his way off the Knicks:

[Adelheid]

randle can be held accountable but can he participate in teamball all season long? you hafta build around him to keep him happy

[3toheadmelo]

the thing about trading him for westbrick is that i feel like the knicks would try to resign him. dolan thirsty for those "big names". that's why we went after kemba too and we're stuck with him. plus i am pretty sure you can get more value out of him. randle is a walking 20/10/5. im sure you can do better than westbrick.

Coming from an outside perspective, you guys need to suck, a lot for top 10 picks while developing RJ.

Westbrook would basically be your tank commander while being a catchy big name.

Randle is just good enough in the RS to ruin lotto chances. Westbrook will age worse and worse, ensuring your team is sub 400 or worse, meaning better lotto odds.

the scary thing about westbrook is that he's so bad he would hinder the development of RJ and any young player we have.

i mean the lakers had THT who looked very promising last season.. now all of a sudden he looks awful.

[3toheadmelo]

They said that this was his problem in Minny as well. He couldn't control Kat and Jimmy and it became a toxic environment. He gets his reputation from his years with Rose, but let's be honest, Rose is an introvert who brothers kept him in check. I believe that's the reason we surrounded thibs with a strong coaching staff - Woodson, Payne, Bryant .. because it's already known around the league that he can't manage players.

it sucks cause you know how good randle can be when he's held accountable. now thibs lost him and it's headed towards a bad end unless something magically changes next season.

I dunno if it me but this reads like you're shifting blame and responsibility on thibs for randles play and behavior.

of course randle has his faults. but it seems to me you aren't blaming thibs at all. even the people who dislike randle have pointed out that thibs made randle's situation worse.

[RHODEY]

the thing about trading him for westbrick is that i feel like the knicks would try to resign him. dolan thirsty for those "big names". that's why we went after kemba too and we're stuck with him. plus i am pretty sure you can get more value out of him. randle is a walking 20/10/5. im sure you can do better than westbrick.

What value does he really have if that 20/10/5 are just empty stats? His numbers have lead to jack chit since he's been in a Knicks uniform.

20/10/5 on a playoff ready vet team can be enticing. What hurts his value is his headcase tendencies....

[god shammgod]

Just came across this tweet and I've been saying all year that Randle rebounds are fugazi...he seeks out easy ones, steal them from teammates and never battle for the ones we need. well.. here are the stats.

Read on Twitter

i've told people this many times. the only reason randle even has big rebounding numbers is because mitch plays for the team first and is 2nd in the league in box outs. so instead of trying to grab the defensive rebound himself, he's boxing out the opposing big and letting randle grab all the easy ones. mitch could be putting up rodman rebound numbers if he felt like it. but he plays his role.