The 2022 NBA Finals | (3) Golden State Warriors VS. (2) Boston Celtics (BOS 1-0)

bb22 · Post #121 » by **bb22** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:02 am

It’s been Boston’s year since 2022 hit. It just seems right.
I really like both teams, but I think The Celtics have that extra motivation and fire. They don’t just want it, they need it.
Should be fun to watch.

GiannisAnte34 · Post #122 » by **GiannisAnte34** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:04 am

bb22 wrote:It’s been Boston’s year since 2022 hit. It just seems right.
I really like both teams, but I think The Celtics have that extra motivation and fire. They don’t just want it, they need it.
Should be fun to watch.

Lol extra motivation and fire? Magical thinking at its finest. Try to use sensible reasoning

TheLand13 · Post #123 » by **TheLand13** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:06 am

AussieCeltic wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:This is a very interesting series. On one hand, I can’t really see Boston doing much against golden state based on the fact that they struggled more than they should have against Milwaukee and Miami, both of whom were missing key players throughout their respective series.

On the other hand, Boston matches up ridiculously well with GS. They have an absurd amount of elite and versatile defenders who can defend at the perimeter. And golden state isn’t as big and physical as Miami and Milwaukee. They don’t dominate the boards either. That’s going to, at the very least, prevent these games from being complete blowouts (at least, I hope it will).

Nonetheless, I have to go with the more experienced team here. Golden State in… idk, seven? Let’s go with seven.

Celtics have had guys miss plenty of games as well.

TimeLord hasn’t been healthy the whole playoffs and missed 7 of 17 games.

Smart missed a game in the Bucks series and 2 in the Heat series and was clearly hobbled.

Horford missed game 1 of the Heat series.

White missed a game of the Heat series.

Sure other teams have carried injuries as well but the Celtics have had their fair share and not used it as an excuse.

You had a fully healthy team in game 6 while Miami was missing Hero and you couldn’t close it out. You had two games against the bucks where your team was fully healthy… and you lost. In fact, three of your four wins in that series was while missing one of those players.

ajones9219 · Post #124 » by **ajones9219** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:07 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
I honestly think that's an egregious take.

That's the best thing about opinions is everyone can have one. I'll take Tatum over curry as a complete player, especially with the defense.

That's a different argument.

Saying Tatum is more talented than Curry is simply laughable.

Curry is clearly more talented than Tatum.

I think Tatum is more talented when you factor defensive talent. He is just a complete player. If you want to disagree that's entirely fine. I don't think it's a huge gap either way.

iLLmatic860 · Post #125 » by **iLLmatic860** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:09 am

Ill be shocked if Warriors don’t win it all

KamikazeK · Post #126 » by **KamikazeK** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:11 am

multo wrote:Will Celtics hand the Warriors their 1st home loss of the playoffs? Warriors are a very good home team but Celtics are a very good road team. Gonna be a good one!

Warriors in 6.

If there's any team in the league not scared of going into GSW's house and getting the win it's Boston. :lol:

This is the moment these guys have been waiting for.

AussieCeltic · Post #127 » by **AussieCeltic** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:14 am

TheLand13 wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
TheLand13 wrote:This is a very interesting series. On one hand, I can’t really see Boston doing much against golden state based on the fact that they struggled more than they should have against Milwaukee and Miami, both of whom were missing key players throughout their respective series.

On the other hand, Boston matches up ridiculously well with GS. They have an absurd amount of elite and versatile defenders who can defend at the perimeter. And golden state isn’t as big and physical as Miami and Milwaukee. They don’t dominate the boards either. That’s going to, at the very least, prevent these games from being complete blowouts (at least, I hope it will).

Nonetheless, I have to go with the more experienced team here. Golden State in… idk, seven? Let’s go with seven.

Celtics have had guys miss plenty of games as well.

TimeLord hasn’t been healthy the whole playoffs and missed 7 of 17 games.

Smart missed a game in the Bucks series and 2 in the Heat series and was clearly hobbled.

Horford missed game 1 of the Heat series.

White missed a game of the Heat series.

Sure other teams have carried injuries as well but the Celtics have had their fair share and not used it as an excuse.

You had a fully healthy team in game 6 while Miami was missing Hero and you couldn’t close it out. You had two games against the bucks where your team was fully healthy… and you lost. In fact, three of your four wins in that series was while missing one of those players.

Cool story. We won some fully healthy and lost some fully healthy. They’re tight series, it’s the way it goes.

The Grizz won a game without Ja Morant, does that mean they’re better off without him? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove.

MagicFan12345 · Post #128 » by **MagicFan12345** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:16 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:Ill be shocked if Warriors don’t win it all

Why? Celtics have a great defense, you know the saying, defense wins championships?

Loaded_Hollows · Post #129 » by **Loaded_Hollows** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:17 am

Warriors were so close to getting a matchup with Miami which would have been a sweep.

This Celtics matchup is tougher….dang it. If warriors were in their prime, I’d still say warriors 4-0 in a heartbeat. But with the current state of GS, I’ll say GS in 6. Gonna be a tough and physical series.

Post #130 » by **FNQ** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:17 am

KamikazeK wrote:
multo wrote:Will Celtics hand the Warriors their 1st home loss of the playoffs? Warriors are a very good home team but Celtics are a very good road team. Gonna be a good one!

Warriors in 6.

If there's any team in the league not scared of going into GSW's house and getting the win it's Boston. This is the moment these guys have been waiting for.

I dont doubt you believe it but we've heard that 2 straight series now

That said Boston is absolutely our biggest challenge because their style is an exact opposite to ours, and we don't have the perimeter defenders to cover both Tatum and Brown. Matchups are gonna be very interesting for us.. Klay is gonna be on one of them, and that aint great for us

Post #131 » by **FNQ** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:18 am

MagicFan12345 wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:Ill be shocked if Warriors don’t win it all

Why? Celtics have a great defense, you know the saying, defense wins championships?

We had the #1 defense this year with Draymond missing 30 games

meh · Post #132 » by **meh** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:21 am

FNQ wrote:
MagicFan12345 wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:Ill be shocked if Warriors don’t win it all

Why? Celtics have a great defense, you know the saying, defense wins championships?

We had the #1 defense this year with Draymond missing 30 games

Celtics have had the best defense since January. It's not even close:
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-team-defensive-rating-rankings-since-january-1st-2022

Post #133 » by **FNQ** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:23 am

meh wrote:
FNQ wrote:
MagicFan12345 wrote:
Why? Celtics have a great defense, you know the saying, defense wins championships?

We had the #1 defense this year with Draymond missing 30 games

Celtics have had the best defense since January. It's not even close:
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-team-defensive-rating-rankings-since-january-1st-2022

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2022.html

Warriors had 106.9 for the year, and the reason that your stat is right and mine is right is because Draymond was injured Jan 15 and missed 2 months..

healthy Draymond W's:

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=nba+team+defensive+rating+rankings+2021-22+before+january+1st+2022

thelead · Post #134 » by **thelead** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:23 am

My guess is Warriors in 5. My second guess is Warriors in 6. I’ll be shocked if Boston can keep up with the Warriors’ depth.

Miami_Lux · Post #135 » by **Miami_Lux** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:25 am

FNQ wrote:
MagicFan12345 wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:Ill be shocked if Warriors don’t win it all

Why? Celtics have a great defense, you know the saying, defense wins championships?

We had the #1 defense this year with Draymond missing 30 games

This is ultimately why I think the Warriors will win the Finals. Their edge on offense is bigger over Boston than Boston s edge on defense over the Warriors.

CelticSooner · Post #136 » by **CelticSooner** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:26 am

I felt good about this potential series before Friday. Now I’m not so sure, C’s make some dumb mistakes that GS can actually exploit. Physically the C’s are better, you gotta play smart to go along with it though.

Post #137 » by **FNQ** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:26 am

Miami_Lux wrote:
FNQ wrote:
MagicFan12345 wrote:
Why? Celtics have a great defense, you know the saying, defense wins championships?

We had the #1 defense this year with Draymond missing 30 games

This is ultimately why I think the Warriors will win the Finals. Their edge on offense is bigger over Boston than Boston s edge on defense over the Warriors.

Wait what

meh · Post #138 » by **meh** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:26 am

FNQ wrote:
meh wrote:
FNQ wrote:
We had the #1 defense this year with Draymond missing 30 games

Celtics have had the best defense since January. It's not even close:
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-team-defensive-rating-rankings-since-january-1st-2022

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2022.html

Warriors had 106.9 for the year, and the reason that your stat is right and mine is right is because Draymond was injured Jan 15 and missed 2 months..

healthy Draymond W's:

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=nba+team+defensive+rating+rankings+2021-22+before+january+1st+2022

Before January 1st 2022?? That is not really that relevant.

Miami_Lux · Post #139 » by **Miami_Lux** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:27 am

FNQ wrote:
Miami_Lux wrote:
FNQ wrote:
We had the #1 defense this year with Draymond missing 30 games

This is ultimately why I think the Warriors will win the Finals. Their edge on offense is bigger over Boston than Boston s edge on defense over the Warriors.

Wait what

Ok that was a weird phrasing. I think Boston has a slightly better defense than the Warriors. However the Warriors eclipse the Celtics much more offensively.

Post #140 » by **FNQ** » Mon May 30, 2022 5:27 am

meh wrote:
FNQ wrote:
meh wrote:Celtics have had the best defense since January. It's not even close:
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-team-defensive-rating-rankings-since-january-1st-2022

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2022.html

Warriors had 106.9 for the year, and the reason that your stat is right and mine is right is because Draymond was injured Jan 15 and missed 2 months..

healthy Draymond W's:

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=nba+team+defensive+rating+rankings+2021-22+before+january+1st+2022

Before January 1st 2022?? That is not really that relevant.

Wait what

Our team fully healthy, which it is now, had a defensive rating that was literally 3 full points ahead of everyone. We lost our best defensive player for 30 games.

But your cherry pick counts? Hmmm

Who you got?