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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #7 - We must be close to being close!!!!!!!! 

Post#121 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:31 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:I would say the book is not closed on him. He may not pan out to meet potential and he may be like a Mario Hezonja. But that it is not 100% certain.

The tempting part is big athletic wings like Cam can be very valuable, even as a role player type. If we don't trade him, think we need to find consistent playing time for him. We already invested in him so might as well give him a shot.

The problem with Cam's situation is, we have to make a decision on him this year. There's really not enough time left to evaluate him, so if he has a good year, is that a fluke or a genuine sign of improvement? It'll be hard to tell

He has a ton of potential, but he's shown very little improvement year over year. But that's also hard to say since he's only played in 133 out of a possible 221 games since being drafted, which is only 49 games a year per 82 game season

As a starter this past year, he put up 18/3/2 on 41/39/88 splits (.535 TS), which is comparable to Paul George at the same age. Of course, he only started 7 games this year so again, that's not really much to go on

I hesitate to say he's a bust though statistically it seems so, just because of the fact he missed so much time 2 years ago and we didn't put him in a good position to succeed once trading for him

I just think it's stupid that we traded a 1st round pick for him only to bury him on the bench, making evaluating him that much more difficult.


Yea. The contract situation makes it tough. Trade doesn't look great right now. At this point think they have to trade him or play him, and figure it out from there.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #7 - We must be close to being close!!!!!!!! 

Post#122 » by spree8 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:32 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Ainge knows what happened during the negotiations between us and Denver leading up to the Melo trade, to wit, Donnie Walsh was playing hardball until Dolan got impatient, got involved in the negotiations, and gave up the farm. Ainge is banking on Dolan's impatience to effect his judgment.



Yea I just hope Leon has the balls to tell Dolan to sit down and stfu before he turns this into another Melo or Bargnani situation.

If Dolan stays out, Leon needs to just call Ainge’s bluff and wait it out until Mitchell and CAA start making noise publicly. Ainge is that stubborn that it’ll probably be the only thing to force his hand… bad press/toxic environment. Because this asking price is disgustingly offensive.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #7 - We must be close to being close!!!!!!!! 

Post#123 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:36 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Ainge knows what happened during the negotiations between us and Denver leading up to the Melo trade, to wit, Donnie Walsh was playing hardball until Dolan got impatient, got involved in the negotiations, and gave up the farm. Ainge is banking on Dolan's impatience to effect his judgment.



Yea I just hope Leon has the balls to tell Dolan to sit down and stfu before he turns this into another Melo or Bargnani situation.

If Dolan stays out, Leon needs to just call Ainge’s bluff and wait it out until Mitchell and CAA start making noise publicly. Ainge is that stubborn that it’ll probably be the only thing to force his hand… bad press/toxic environment. Because this asking price is disgustingly offensive.




It wont.

This is a tier 1 GM, he's not going to fold because of public trade demands or bad press, this is the man that traded Isaiah Thomas after his sister died and had team doctors tell him playing through a hip injury was fine.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell Thread #7 - We must be close to being close!!!!!!!! 

Post#124 » by Jimmit79 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:45 pm

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F N 11 wrote:People want Jaylen Brown but want to give up on RJ. Lmao never change…..

Jaylen brown first 3 years in the league y’all would of wanted to trade him. That’s how average his stats were.

But carry along..

Not the same players.

What they have in common is mostly their weaknesses

But Brown has always been an elite athlete and a more efficient scorer relative to league-average.

The athleticism always gave Brown a higher upside as a defender and as a finisher.
I would give up RJ for Brown in a heartbeat so would Leon. Dolan would personally drive RJ to Boston lol.
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Post#125 » by nykfan42 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:52 pm

Soooo we gettin him? or nah
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Post#126 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:59 pm

Hollinger with a good article in the athletic on the cap. I dont think many people fully realize what is going to happen with the cap. He projects the cap is will go up to $200mil by 2028 with max contracts at $70mil

This impacts Mitchell as there is probably no way to extend him unless they change the CBA. He will likely hit the market as an UFA in '25 since he will get a lot more then the extension.

For RJ, if you can lock him up to a 4 or 5 year deal it will be well worth it by the middle/end of his deal.

Randle's contract wont even look that bad by the end of his deal.

Knicks may actually be set up pretty decently to make a big move if they play there cards right.

Similarly, this situation hangs over the Donovan Mitchell situation in Utah — another player who is really good but perhaps not quite good enough to become supermax eligible. One reason the Jazz might be looking harder at trading him now and rebuilding the team is the impossibility of extending him ahead of his player option in 2025. He can make an estimated $48 million that year as a free agent but only $41.8 million on the first year of a non-supermax extension.


Now we get to the tricky part: the players who aren’t quite All-Stars but still are pretty good, still on their rookie deals and still pretty obviously capable of getting better. As you’ll see, it gets pretty hard to overpay some of these guys once you factor in the rising cap.
Running my BORD$ model on some of these players, even with its hazy crystal ball looking multiple years in the future, showed just how hard it actually is to screw this up: Players like RJ Barrett, Jordan Poole and Tyler Herro pencil out as being worth something like 50 percent more than their maximum deal.

This results from a combination of the players’ youth and the rising cap. For the youngest cohort of extension-eligible players, it seems virtually impossible to overpay them at almost any price; in fact, “extendability” creates a downside risk that the contract might end up too low just as the player’s value peaks.

For instance, the biggest risk with an extension like Johnson’s above is that he’ll depart in unrestricted free agency at the end of the deal due to the near-impossibility of a workable extension. By BORD$, Johnson’s contract is a humungous value in any environment where we have 10 percent year-over-year cap increases (or anything even remotely close). However, he can only be extended for $21 million a season in the final year of the deal — a pittance for a then-27-year-old in a nearly $200 million cap environment if he’s just a solid starter, let alone a star.


In some cases, that’s the case even if the player’s development stalls out. For example, BORDS$ values Poole as being worth $28.7 million for the coming season. If he doesn’t improve at all from that point, the rises in the cap environment alone will make him worth $145 million over the first four years of an extension. The most the Warriors can legally pay him over those four years is $147 million. The math for Barrett and Herro — both of whom are a year younger than Poole — plays out nearly as strongly.

Thus, committing to pay one of these guys $40 million in 2026-27 may seem like a big swallow, but it’s the equivalent of a salary in the $25 million range today. From the team side, they don’t need to become All-Stars for the contracts to turn into big wins. Also, going longer is likely even better. A full five years on a “designated rookie” deal looks aggressive at first, but by the end of the deal, you have a 27-year-old being paid regular starter money.

Meanwhile, from the players’ side, one wonders if some of these guys will want to bet on themselves rather than go long. Wouldn’t a player like Herro or Barrett prefer to sign, say, a short three-year extension and hit unrestricted free agency as a 26-year-old with a post-TV-deal cap?
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Post#129 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:01 pm

Rarely do stars get traded to places they don't want to go in today's NBA. He wants to come here....it's going to take some time likely because Ainge wants the moon but I think it will get done. If what the Knicks were offering wasn't reasonable Id be more concerned. But they are offering a haul of picks which is truly when you boil it down what Ainge wants most.
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Post#130 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:04 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Hollinger with a good article in the athletic on the cap. I dont think many people fully realize what is going to happen with the cap. He projects the cap is will go up to $200mil by 2028 with max contracts at $70mil

This impacts Mitchell as there is probably no way to extend him unless they change the CBA. He will likely hit the market as an UFA in '25 since he will get a lot more then the extension.

For RJ, if you can lock him up to a 4 or 5 year deal it will be well worth it by the middle/end of his deal.

Randle's contract wont even look that bad by the end of his deal.

Knicks may actually be set up pretty decently to make a big move if they play there cards right.

Similarly, this situation hangs over the Donovan Mitchell situation in Utah — another player who is really good but perhaps not quite good enough to become supermax eligible. One reason the Jazz might be looking harder at trading him now and rebuilding the team is the impossibility of extending him ahead of his player option in 2025. He can make an estimated $48 million that year as a free agent but only $41.8 million on the first year of a non-supermax extension.


Now we get to the tricky part: the players who aren’t quite All-Stars but still are pretty good, still on their rookie deals and still pretty obviously capable of getting better. As you’ll see, it gets pretty hard to overpay some of these guys once you factor in the rising cap.
Running my BORD$ model on some of these players, even with its hazy crystal ball looking multiple years in the future, showed just how hard it actually is to screw this up: Players like RJ Barrett, Jordan Poole and Tyler Herro pencil out as being worth something like 50 percent more than their maximum deal.

This results from a combination of the players’ youth and the rising cap. For the youngest cohort of extension-eligible players, it seems virtually impossible to overpay them at almost any price; in fact, “extendability” creates a downside risk that the contract might end up too low just as the player’s value peaks.

For instance, the biggest risk with an extension like Johnson’s above is that he’ll depart in unrestricted free agency at the end of the deal due to the near-impossibility of a workable extension. By BORD$, Johnson’s contract is a humungous value in any environment where we have 10 percent year-over-year cap increases (or anything even remotely close). However, he can only be extended for $21 million a season in the final year of the deal — a pittance for a then-27-year-old in a nearly $200 million cap environment if he’s just a solid starter, let alone a star.


In some cases, that’s the case even if the player’s development stalls out. For example, BORDS$ values Poole as being worth $28.7 million for the coming season. If he doesn’t improve at all from that point, the rises in the cap environment alone will make him worth $145 million over the first four years of an extension. The most the Warriors can legally pay him over those four years is $147 million. The math for Barrett and Herro — both of whom are a year younger than Poole — plays out nearly as strongly.

Thus, committing to pay one of these guys $40 million in 2026-27 may seem like a big swallow, but it’s the equivalent of a salary in the $25 million range today. From the team side, they don’t need to become All-Stars for the contracts to turn into big wins. Also, going longer is likely even better. A full five years on a “designated rookie” deal looks aggressive at first, but by the end of the deal, you have a 27-year-old being paid regular starter money.

Meanwhile, from the players’ side, one wonders if some of these guys will want to bet on themselves rather than go long. Wouldn’t a player like Herro or Barrett prefer to sign, say, a short three-year extension and hit unrestricted free agency as a 26-year-old with a post-TV-deal cap?





Funny, the father of NBA nerd stats says RJ is worth XYZ, and I'm sure Knick fans on here will disagree, because they have run their own advanced statistical models I'm sure.
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Post#131 » by Dave DaButcher » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:06 pm

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Post#132 » by G_K_F » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:09 pm

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It’s not known for which New York team that traitor is recruiting Donovan Jr.


Well he's got the Brooklyn gear on so I guess we know.
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Post#133 » by Rooster8 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:21 pm

I guess the hack wannabe journalists finally gave up on trying to get lucky and break some news.
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Post#135 » by Synciere » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:27 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Hollinger with a good article in the athletic on the cap. I dont think many people fully realize what is going to happen with the cap. He projects the cap is will go up to $200mil by 2028 with max contracts at $70mil

This impacts Mitchell as there is probably no way to extend him unless they change the CBA. He will likely hit the market as an UFA in '25 since he will get a lot more then the extension.

For RJ, if you can lock him up to a 4 or 5 year deal it will be well worth it by the middle/end of his deal.

Randle's contract wont even look that bad by the end of his deal.

Knicks may actually be set up pretty decently to make a big move if they play there cards right.

Similarly, this situation hangs over the Donovan Mitchell situation in Utah — another player who is really good but perhaps not quite good enough to become supermax eligible. One reason the Jazz might be looking harder at trading him now and rebuilding the team is the impossibility of extending him ahead of his player option in 2025. He can make an estimated $48 million that year as a free agent but only $41.8 million on the first year of a non-supermax extension.


Now we get to the tricky part: the players who aren’t quite All-Stars but still are pretty good, still on their rookie deals and still pretty obviously capable of getting better. As you’ll see, it gets pretty hard to overpay some of these guys once you factor in the rising cap.
Running my BORD$ model on some of these players, even with its hazy crystal ball looking multiple years in the future, showed just how hard it actually is to screw this up: Players like RJ Barrett, Jordan Poole and Tyler Herro pencil out as being worth something like 50 percent more than their maximum deal.

This results from a combination of the players’ youth and the rising cap. For the youngest cohort of extension-eligible players, it seems virtually impossible to overpay them at almost any price; in fact, “extendability” creates a downside risk that the contract might end up too low just as the player’s value peaks.

For instance, the biggest risk with an extension like Johnson’s above is that he’ll depart in unrestricted free agency at the end of the deal due to the near-impossibility of a workable extension. By BORD$, Johnson’s contract is a humungous value in any environment where we have 10 percent year-over-year cap increases (or anything even remotely close). However, he can only be extended for $21 million a season in the final year of the deal — a pittance for a then-27-year-old in a nearly $200 million cap environment if he’s just a solid starter, let alone a star.


In some cases, that’s the case even if the player’s development stalls out. For example, BORDS$ values Poole as being worth $28.7 million for the coming season. If he doesn’t improve at all from that point, the rises in the cap environment alone will make him worth $145 million over the first four years of an extension. The most the Warriors can legally pay him over those four years is $147 million. The math for Barrett and Herro — both of whom are a year younger than Poole — plays out nearly as strongly.

Thus, committing to pay one of these guys $40 million in 2026-27 may seem like a big swallow, but it’s the equivalent of a salary in the $25 million range today. From the team side, they don’t need to become All-Stars for the contracts to turn into big wins. Also, going longer is likely even better. A full five years on a “designated rookie” deal looks aggressive at first, but by the end of the deal, you have a 27-year-old being paid regular starter money.

Meanwhile, from the players’ side, one wonders if some of these guys will want to bet on themselves rather than go long. Wouldn’t a player like Herro or Barrett prefer to sign, say, a short three-year extension and hit unrestricted free agency as a 26-year-old with a post-TV-deal cap?


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Post#136 » by DowNY » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:29 pm

Fury wrote:
TraveyKnicks31 wrote:
DowNY wrote:Not sure you can say that based on the trailer.
It’s possible it can be him but there’s rumors it can be Shuri or Nakia also. Can’t tell by the limited scenes. Marvel likes to leave the people guessing.


I thought it’s fairly obvious where they are going since they no longer want a black male in that role


Shuri has been Black Panther

I hope they take a chance with Killmonger tho. With the focus on Namor and Atlantis in this movie, they can say they found him in the ocean

In the comics, Shuri & Killmonger were both Black Panther at some point.
In the trailer, Ramonda (Angela Bassett) was talking and said “both her children are gone”. I think the movie starts off with Shuri taking over but that leads to a situation with Namor.
In the comics, Killmonger gets revived. So idk if that’s going to be the surprise twist or not.
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Post#137 » by stuporman » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:30 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Hollinger with a good article in the athletic on the cap. I dont think many people fully realize what is going to happen with the cap. He projects the cap is will go up to $200mil by 2028 with max contracts at $70mil

This impacts Mitchell as there is probably no way to extend him unless they change the CBA. He will likely hit the market as an UFA in '25 since he will get a lot more then the extension.

For RJ, if you can lock him up to a 4 or 5 year deal it will be well worth it by the middle/end of his deal.

Randle's contract wont even look that bad by the end of his deal.

Knicks may actually be set up pretty decently to make a big move if they play there cards right.

Similarly, this situation hangs over the Donovan Mitchell situation in Utah — another player who is really good but perhaps not quite good enough to become supermax eligible. One reason the Jazz might be looking harder at trading him now and rebuilding the team is the impossibility of extending him ahead of his player option in 2025. He can make an estimated $48 million that year as a free agent but only $41.8 million on the first year of a non-supermax extension.


Now we get to the tricky part: the players who aren’t quite All-Stars but still are pretty good, still on their rookie deals and still pretty obviously capable of getting better. As you’ll see, it gets pretty hard to overpay some of these guys once you factor in the rising cap.
Running my BORD$ model on some of these players, even with its hazy crystal ball looking multiple years in the future, showed just how hard it actually is to screw this up: Players like RJ Barrett, Jordan Poole and Tyler Herro pencil out as being worth something like 50 percent more than their maximum deal.

This results from a combination of the players’ youth and the rising cap. For the youngest cohort of extension-eligible players, it seems virtually impossible to overpay them at almost any price; in fact, “extendability” creates a downside risk that the contract might end up too low just as the player’s value peaks.

For instance, the biggest risk with an extension like Johnson’s above is that he’ll depart in unrestricted free agency at the end of the deal due to the near-impossibility of a workable extension. By BORD$, Johnson’s contract is a humungous value in any environment where we have 10 percent year-over-year cap increases (or anything even remotely close). However, he can only be extended for $21 million a season in the final year of the deal — a pittance for a then-27-year-old in a nearly $200 million cap environment if he’s just a solid starter, let alone a star.


In some cases, that’s the case even if the player’s development stalls out. For example, BORDS$ values Poole as being worth $28.7 million for the coming season. If he doesn’t improve at all from that point, the rises in the cap environment alone will make him worth $145 million over the first four years of an extension. The most the Warriors can legally pay him over those four years is $147 million. The math for Barrett and Herro — both of whom are a year younger than Poole — plays out nearly as strongly.

Thus, committing to pay one of these guys $40 million in 2026-27 may seem like a big swallow, but it’s the equivalent of a salary in the $25 million range today. From the team side, they don’t need to become All-Stars for the contracts to turn into big wins. Also, going longer is likely even better. A full five years on a “designated rookie” deal looks aggressive at first, but by the end of the deal, you have a 27-year-old being paid regular starter money.

Meanwhile, from the players’ side, one wonders if some of these guys will want to bet on themselves rather than go long. Wouldn’t a player like Herro or Barrett prefer to sign, say, a short three-year extension and hit unrestricted free agency as a 26-year-old with a post-TV-deal cap?





Funny, the father of NBA nerd stats says RJ is worth XYZ, and I'm sure Knick fans on here will disagree, because they have run their own advanced statistical models I'm sure.


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Post#138 » by iLLmatic860 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:33 pm

Rooster8 wrote:I guess the hack wannabe journalists finally gave up on trying to get lucky and break some news.

Them Utah reporters /radio hosts clicks at an all time high with New York fanbase reading and listening to everything they say. I bet they loving this **** lol
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Post#139 » by TrueWarrior » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:48 pm

Would the Thunder trade Shai for Grimes &/or IQ plus 5-6 picks (3 Knicks unprotected, 3 other teams’ protected)?

And how do u guys rate Shai compared to Mitchell? He’s obviously bigger at 6’6” with a 6’11” wingspan so he could fit next to Brunson better at the 2. Also younger. May not be quite as good a scorer tho.

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Thats a fun tanking lineup with potential. Would the Thunder want to tank like the Jazz, or do they keep Shai? Guess they’re trying to do both again.
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