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Re: PG Bulls - No Giannis/Khris/Pat/Grayson No Problem - 1 Seed 

Post#121 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Apr 6, 2023 2:38 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:I have never heard people talking about pants pissing more in my life. Kind of worried about y'all.


Based on the constant reminders by a certain vocal minority of posters, one could be forgiven in thinking that the Bucks players themselves are pissing their pants at the thought of meeting Boston in a playoff series. I for one, have never heard so many grown adult men (or women) talk about how "scared" they are of another professional sports team(s) beating their professional sports team.
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Post#122 » by buckboy » Thu Apr 6, 2023 2:39 pm

Sit him for round 1. Won't need him anyway.

Or at least play him sparingly.
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Post#123 » by buckboy » Thu Apr 6, 2023 2:40 pm

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GoldenAntlers wrote:I have never heard people talking about pants pissing more in my life. Kind of worried about y'all.


Based on the constant reminders by a certain vocal minority of posters, one could be forgiven in thinking that the Bucks players themselves are pissing their pants at the thought of meeting Boston in a playoff series. I for one, have never heard so many grown adult men (or women) talk about how "scared" they are of another professional sports team(s) beating their professional sports team.


I hope the Bucks are as scared of the Celtics as they were of the Heat in 2021.

I'd like them to kick the **** out of the Celtics.
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Post#124 » by aboveAverage » Thu Apr 6, 2023 2:49 pm

buckboy wrote:Sit him for round 1. Won't need him anyway.

Or at least play him sparingly.

I think we’ll need him vs Toronto. That series will be harder than most think.
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Post#125 » by WRau1 » Thu Apr 6, 2023 2:56 pm

I thought I heard a stat this morning that was Lopez has more 20+ point games this season than he had his entire Bucks career (previous to this season) combined. That's crazy.
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Post#126 » by FrieAaron » Thu Apr 6, 2023 3:03 pm

Obviously hope Khris is fine and can go for the playoffs but if the Lopez, Jrue and Grayson improvements carry over into the playoffs it will mean a lot for us as well compared to last year. To say nothing of Ingles/Crowder.
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Post#127 » by aboveAverage » Thu Apr 6, 2023 3:19 pm

I just wanted to restate my appreciation for this elite franchise that Horst and Bud have built together with Giannis. We are so so lucky as Milwaukee Bucks fans. We have the best team in the league, the best record in the league, and the best player in the league. Don’t miss out on any of the action over the next two years. We’re gonna miss it when it’s gone.

Don’t care as much about the end result, just enjoying the process. As long as we are as healthy as we can be and we play hard, it’s going to be a fun playoffs. Go Bucks.
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Post#128 » by skones » Thu Apr 6, 2023 3:50 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Pat and Grayson landed on someone's foot, a common way to sprain an ankle. But Khris didn't land on anyone. Very concerning.

The fact that they never get more specific than knee soreness makes me assume that Khris is dealing with something chronic, which is far more concerning than a more concrete injury that has a defined recovery timeline or healing process. They could not have done any more to carefully manage his ramp up and overall workload and it still didn't matter.


Knee sprains, particularly bad ones are not short term injuries, nor is a single sprain "chronic." While Giannis played after his knee sprain, because he's a robot, we had heard whispers that that sprain vs. the Hawks bothered him all summer and into the next season. Playing a game with a sprain in this league does not equal pain free. They can take months and months to completely subside.
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Post#129 » by buckboy » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:00 pm

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buckboy wrote:Sit him for round 1. Won't need him anyway.

Or at least play him sparingly.

I think we’ll need him vs Toronto. That series will be harder than most think.


I agree that that is the toughest possible matchup.
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Post#130 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:05 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Pat and Grayson landed on someone's foot, a common way to sprain an ankle. But Khris didn't land on anyone. Very concerning.

The fact that they never get more specific than knee soreness makes me assume that Khris is dealing with something chronic, which is far more concerning than a more concrete injury that has a defined recovery timeline or healing process. They could not have done any more to carefully manage his ramp up and overall workload and it still didn't matter.


Knee sprains, particularly bad ones are not short term injuries, nor is a single sprain "chronic." While Giannis played after his knee sprain, because he's a robot, we had heard whispers that that sprain vs. the Hawks bothered him all summer and into the next season. Playing a game with a sprain in this league does not equal pain free. They can take months and months to completely subside.

A knee sprain was the initial injury that knocked him out of the playoffs last year but we're almost a year out from that. We're nitpicking terminology now but what would you call continued knee soreness if not chronic? Something that persists for a long time or continually reoccurs is by definition "chronic".

As for comparing it to Giannis, I thought it was pretty common that he is also dealing with "chronic" issues in his knees. It is frequently described that way and alluded to in that way. The difference is he consistently and effectively plays with it and through it at an MVP level. If he had missed the amount of time Khris has missed this season with "knee soreness" I think we'd be talking about it with a different level of concern.
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Post#131 » by skones » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:34 pm

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Turk Nowitzki wrote:The fact that they never get more specific than knee soreness makes me assume that Khris is dealing with something chronic, which is far more concerning than a more concrete injury that has a defined recovery timeline or healing process. They could not have done any more to carefully manage his ramp up and overall workload and it still didn't matter.


Knee sprains, particularly bad ones are not short term injuries, nor is a single sprain "chronic." While Giannis played after his knee sprain, because he's a robot, we had heard whispers that that sprain vs. the Hawks bothered him all summer and into the next season. Playing a game with a sprain in this league does not equal pain free. They can take months and months to completely subside.

A knee sprain was the initial injury that knocked him out of the playoffs last year but we're almost a year out from that. We're nitpicking terminology now but what would you call continued knee soreness if not chronic? Something that persists for a long time or continually reoccurs is by definition "chronic".

As for comparing it to Giannis, I thought it was pretty common that he is also dealing with "chronic" issues in his knees. It is frequently described that way and alluded to in that way. The difference is he consistently and effectively plays with it and through it at an MVP level. If he had missed the amount of time Khris has missed this season with "knee soreness" I think we'd be talking about it with a different level of concern.


We're not talking about the knee sprain he had last season. He sprained it against Memphis THIS year shortly after his return.

Giannis does have chronic issues in his knees, but again, that's a separate issue altogether. There were whispers of lingering effects from his knee bending backwards in the opposite direction into the following season, because again, that's sort of the nature of sprains. They take time.
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Post#132 » by LUKE23 » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:41 pm

Toronto is terrible on the road, but personnel wise I'd just prefer not to play them because of how they play GA.

I want the Bulls in the first round. They have nobody that has a prayer of stopping GA and I just love beating that team.
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Post#133 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:43 pm

Either Bulls or Hawks preferably, but neither Toronto nor Miami has a chance of scoring enough in a 7-game series to beat us.
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Post#134 » by LUKE23 » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:44 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Either Bulls or Hawks preferably, but neither Toronto nor Miami has a chance of scoring enough in a 7-game series to beat us.


Right, they will win regardless of opponent, but Miami/Toronto are just way more physical than the other two teams. I'd prefer the first round be a breeze for GA physically.
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Post#135 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Apr 6, 2023 4:54 pm

skones wrote:
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skones wrote:
Knee sprains, particularly bad ones are not short term injuries, nor is a single sprain "chronic." While Giannis played after his knee sprain, because he's a robot, we had heard whispers that that sprain vs. the Hawks bothered him all summer and into the next season. Playing a game with a sprain in this league does not equal pain free. They can take months and months to completely subside.

A knee sprain was the initial injury that knocked him out of the playoffs last year but we're almost a year out from that. We're nitpicking terminology now but what would you call continued knee soreness if not chronic? Something that persists for a long time or continually reoccurs is by definition "chronic".

As for comparing it to Giannis, I thought it was pretty common that he is also dealing with "chronic" issues in his knees. It is frequently described that way and alluded to in that way. The difference is he consistently and effectively plays with it and through it at an MVP level. If he had missed the amount of time Khris has missed this season with "knee soreness" I think we'd be talking about it with a different level of concern.


We're not talking about the knee sprain he had last season. He sprained it against Memphis THIS year shortly after his return.

Giannis does have chronic issues in his knees, but again, that's a separate issue altogether. There were whispers of lingering effects from his knee bending backwards in the opposite direction into the following season, because again, that's sort of the nature of sprains. They take time.

Did he? They never referred to it as such, the very next game he was on the injury report as out with "knee soreness".

Something happened but we don't really know what. I guess the point is he's had either several setbacks or several separate issues with the knee now where it's been almost a year of being a chronic thing either preventing him from playing or limiting him when he does play. At the end of the day, despite the Bucks best efforts, it doesn't seem likely he's going to be ready to go 40 minutes a night for (hopefully) like two months in these playoff games at the level we were hoping for. Hope we can get around it somehow with our depth and maybe he can excel in a more limited role.
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Post#136 » by Dick Tate » Thu Apr 6, 2023 5:03 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:I have never heard people talking about pants pissing more in my life. Kind of worried about y'all.

It's unsightly. :sour:
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Post#138 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Apr 6, 2023 7:00 pm

Yeah, in the I'm an idiot department, I either forgot or didn't know that the knee bothering him this year is not the same knee he sprained in the playoffs last year.

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Post#139 » by rilamann » Fri Apr 7, 2023 2:52 am

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rilamann wrote:After celebrating the Bucks clinching the #1 seed and best record in the league for the past hour, I come here and read this PG thread and apparently I am the miserable one?

Haha.

I have no problem admitting I was wrong about the #1 seed. I said what I said, turned out I was wrong. Happy as hell to be wrong and I'll own it, and if you want to let me have it, go for it. Doesn't bother me in the least, I actually enjoy it. That's why I am here.

It's all good. I get carried away sometimes after a big win (or big loss)


All good on my end as well. We all get carried away from time to time. At the end of the day we're all Bucks fans and that's all that really matters.

I admit I get a bit bound wound up a times. I think with me it's that the first 25 years that I was a Bucks fan this franchise was an irrelevant laughing stock and now that we have the best player in the world and a great team, I don't want to see the Bucks blow an opportunity because I know someday Giannis will retire and it's going to be back to old Bucks for us. Instead of having a We better not **** this up mentality, I should probably try to relax and enjoy the ride a bit more than I do. Like most of you guys do.

We've won a championship and have now had the best record in the league twice over the past 4 full seasons (Not counting the Covid/bubble season or it would be best record 3 times in the past 5 seasons). I'm still going to complain about stuff, but it's not lost on me that the Bucks have had more success since 2019 than I ever dreamed I would see in my lifetime.

As Bucks fans, we're living the dream every game and every season that Giannis suits up for the Bucks.
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Post#140 » by RubberSoul » Fri Apr 7, 2023 11:50 am

rilamann wrote:
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rilamann wrote:After celebrating the Bucks clinching the #1 seed and best record in the league for the past hour, I come here and read this PG thread and apparently I am the miserable one?

Haha.

I have no problem admitting I was wrong about the #1 seed. I said what I said, turned out I was wrong. Happy as hell to be wrong and I'll own it, and if you want to let me have it, go for it. Doesn't bother me in the least, I actually enjoy it. That's why I am here.

It's all good. I get carried away sometimes after a big win (or big loss)


All good on my end as well. We all get carried away from time to time. At the end of the day we're all Bucks fans and that's all that really matters.

I admit I get a bit bound wound up a times. I think with me it's that the first 25 years that I was a Bucks fan this franchise was an irrelevant laughing stock and now that we have the best player in the world and a great team, I don't want to see the Bucks blow an opportunity because I know someday Giannis will retire and it's going to be back to old Bucks for us. Instead of having a We better not **** this up mentality, I should probably try to relax and enjoy the ride a bit more than I do. Like most of you guys do.

We've won a championship and have now had the best record in the league twice over the past 4 full seasons (Not counting the Covid/bubble season or it would be best record 3 times in the past 5 seasons). I'm still going to complain about stuff, but it's not lost on me that the Bucks have had more success since 2019 than I ever dreamed I would see in my lifetime.

As Bucks fans, we're living the dream every game and every season that Giannis suits up for the Bucks.

I think being so fresh off TT/MM completely botching Aaron Rodgers prime is what makes me a little bit more on edge as well. I feel like the Bucks are at least making an effort however to provide Giannis what he needs and are being aggressive as opposed to the Packers relying on UDFA and 7th round picks for the heart of Aaron Rodgers prime because TT got lucky once and struck gold with Sam Shields as an UDFA early in his tenure (2010).


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