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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#121 » by Ell Curry » Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:00 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:They have the picks but I think their missing that one young player that would interest the Blazers if they really were serious about moving Lillard


Also why would Lillard want to go there? Even if they keep Bridges, Cam Johnson and Claxton somehow, that's not enough defence to be a serious contender.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#122 » by JRoy » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:16 pm

Mattatron wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Dame made his demands clear. That 2023 1st is being traded BEFORE the draft.


Portland going to trade dame instead of trading that pick. 100%


Let’s hope.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#123 » by JRoy » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:23 pm

refshateRaps wrote:Why not sign and trade FVV + GTJ + picks for Dame?

Dame
Vet shooter/OG
OG/Barnes
Pascal/Barnes
Poeltl


We right there with Pascal. Barnes progress would be a wildcard that could tilt us into a force



Nothing we need or want for our best player.

Lol.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#124 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:44 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:
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They have the picks but I think their missing that one young player that would interest the Blazers if they really were serious about moving Lillard


Not only that, I think with the relationship management has with Dame that they will try to accomodate him the best they can & find a team that MAYBE with his addition really contend and the writing is ALREADY all over the wall...

You take it to the bank the moment Harden gets starched by BOS' defence next series & Harden goes to take his jersey outta retirement in those HOU stripclubs...all you're gonna hear is

DAME TO PHILLY (that's going to be the rumour to get it all started)

Just watch lol and I'm not saying that Dame will end up in PHI because even with Maxey in the package (which I don't think PHI would want to do but I can't see POR taking just their picks + Harris)....but that will be the media fuelled narrative that will probably start with some very obvious leak from Morey saying they want to target Dame in the off-season. See if they can pressure it but I think some other quasi-contender will step forward (maybe MIA with Herro + picks or NOP sends some of their picks & a couple young guys - financially not sure if they'll do it, heck I wouldn't rule out DEN if they get dusted in the 2nd rd).

Unless POR gets the 1st overall, I think they're going to look at Sharpe (and a lesser degree Simons) + that the majority of their roster is younger and decide that they're gonna reboot with Sharpe + the 2-7th pick + all the picks + young players for Dame) and start over because there's a pretty clear ceiling short of POR being the one that trades for Embiid (Sharpe + 1sts + futures) lol but I don't see that happening. But I do think they'll head that direction although I'm praying they don't and will use that pick and hopefully for Pascal & then they go get Draymond like Dame has long said he wishes he had a player like on his team.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#125 » by JRoy » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:59 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=XqhcTzKgNBlPnIHnzRhiDQ

They have the picks but I think their missing that one young player that would interest the Blazers if they really were serious about moving Lillard


Not only that, I think with the relationship management has with Dame that they will try to accomodate him the best they can & find a team that MAYBE with his addition really contend and the writing is ALREADY all over the wall...

You take it to the bank the moment Harden gets starched by BOS' defence next series & Harden goes to take his jersey outta retirement in those HOU stripclubs...all you're gonna hear is

DAME TO PHILLY (that's going to be the rumour to get it all started)

Just watch lol and I'm not saying that Dame will end up in PHI because even with Maxey in the package (which I don't think PHI would want to do but I can't see POR taking just their picks + Harris)....but that will be the media fuelled narrative that will probably start with some very obvious leak from Morey saying they want to target Dame in the off-season. See if they can pressure it but I think some other quasi-contender will step forward (maybe MIA with Herro + picks or NOP sends some of their picks & a couple young guys - financially not sure if they'll do it, heck I wouldn't rule out DEN if they get dusted in the 2nd rd).

Unless POR gets the 1st overall, I think they're going to look at Sharpe (and a lesser degree Simons) + that the majority of their roster is younger and decide that they're gonna reboot with Sharpe + the 2-7th pick + all the picks + young players for Dame) and start over because there's a pretty clear ceiling short of POR being the one that trades for Embiid (Sharpe + 1sts + futures) lol but I don't see that happening. But I do think they'll head that direction although I'm praying they don't and will use that pick and hopefully for Pascal & then they go get Draymond like Dame has long said he wishes he had a player like on his team.


I think POR moves him to MIL in a 3 way deal.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#126 » by will » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:01 pm

Why do we keep attempting to dump our garbage onto Portland?

Do you not see the NO GARBAGE sign?
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#127 » by JRoy » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:14 pm

will wrote:Why do we keep attempting to dump our garbage onto Portland?

Do you not see the NO GARBAGE sign?


Hear, hear.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#128 » by TNRaps4life » Sat May 13, 2023 8:38 am

Watch the warriors closely. They will likely chase pascal.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#129 » by DonaldSanders » Sat May 13, 2023 10:37 am

TNRaps4life wrote:Watch the warriors closely. They will likely chase pascal.


What do you think the price is? The Warriors really have to include Poole in any deal for salary to work, unless somehow the Warriors are willing to part with Klay (unlikely).
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#130 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat May 13, 2023 11:03 am

DonaldSanders wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:Watch the warriors closely. They will likely chase pascal.


What do you think the price is? The Warriors really have to include Poole in any deal for salary to work, unless somehow the Warriors are willing to part with Klay (unlikely).


Draymond if he opts in?
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#131 » by DonaldSanders » Sat May 13, 2023 11:06 am

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TNRaps4life wrote:Watch the warriors closely. They will likely chase pascal.


What do you think the price is? The Warriors really have to include Poole in any deal for salary to work, unless somehow the Warriors are willing to part with Klay (unlikely).


Draymond if he opts in?


I don't think the Warriors are looking to trade core guys. Curry/Dray/Wiggins/Looney/GPII are the most important 5 and likely not going anywhere. Klay has underperformed but might be doable, but very unlikely the FO is willing to part.

Really it's likely Poole is the only big salary who is getting moved, and I understand if a team doesn't want him (plus a player/pick(s).
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland 

Post#132 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat May 13, 2023 12:39 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:Watch the warriors closely. They will likely chase pascal.


What do you think the price is? The Warriors really have to include Poole in any deal for salary to work, unless somehow the Warriors are willing to part with Klay (unlikely).


Yeah, it would be Poole as the big money contract to make it work.

Given the new CBA and the size of Poole’s contract he’d have to at least be considered a negative asset at this point.

He has creation, which raptors need, but his 3pt shooting is shaky at best and no D.

Kuminga, Moody, Baldwin all interest me Though.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#133 » by T-d0t » Sat May 13, 2023 1:11 pm

Jordan Poole in Toronto? Oh boy
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#134 » by bluerap23 » Sat May 13, 2023 1:25 pm

They'd have to throw in 8 first rounders to make that work.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#135 » by Mister Ze » Sat May 13, 2023 2:10 pm

All the moderators on this board would retire if Poole came to the Raptors.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#136 » by Los_29 » Sat May 13, 2023 2:30 pm

Problem with the Warriors is I don't think they have very good assets. They had assets but wasted them on Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody. lol.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#137 » by alienchild » Sat May 13, 2023 2:46 pm

T-d0t wrote:Jordan Poole in Toronto? Oh boy


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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#138 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sat May 13, 2023 2:58 pm

Los_29 wrote:Problem with the Warriors is I don't think they have very good assets. They had assets but wasted them on Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody. lol.

Wiseman’s already gone and kuminga/moody value at an all time low.
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#139 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat May 13, 2023 2:59 pm

There’s been an unspoken two-timeline tug-of-war the last few years, as the roster beneath the Curry core has been overloaded with youth with an eye toward the future. It reached a tipping point this season and the James Wiseman for Gary Payton II trade was viewed as a necessary concession, reprioritizing the present.

But some tension persists. Jonathan Kuminga had an encouraging second season, emerging into the type of individual defender and slashing wing who should carve out a long career in the NBA. He was great down the stretch of the regular season, helping the Warriors get into the playoffs while Andrew Wiggins was away from the team for a couple months. Kuminga averaged 13.2 points in 24.2 minutes in the 21 games after the All-Star break.

But Wiggins returned, Payton entered the lineup and Kuminga was pulled from the playoff rotation, generating frustration for a young player trying to get his career off the ground and a front office that doesn’t view him as a failed draft pick.

There’s an acknowledgement from the Warriors’ decision makers that some amount of rotation retooling is needed this summer. That could put Kuminga’s future in question. It’s been difficult to fit him into lineup combinations with both Green and Kevon Looney – two non-shooters – and that frontcourt logjam ahead of him is expected to remain in place.

The Warriors and Kuminga’s representatives are expected to discuss his future this offseason, league sources say. Golden State will need to decide whether Kuminga will receive a full-time role moving forward, and, if not, league sources say the No. 7 pick in the 2021 NBA Draft will want to be somewhere he can play more.

But it’s Jordan Poole’s future that is of greater question. His contract extension kicks in next season at $27.4 million. That spike, along with retaining Green, would put the Warriors in a luxury tax tier that could be a non-starter for Lacob. It also now contains other roster-building restrictions, including the loss of the midlevel exception, which allowed them to get Donte DiVincenzo this past summer.

If cost-cutting is required, he profiles as the likeliest candidate. Poole had a turbulent fourth season, beginning when he took the infamous preseason punch from Green during a training camp practice. Poole kept it professional in the aftermath and tensions cooled enough for the two to work together. But the relationship was never fully repaired and Poole’s struggles didn’t help the mood, culminating in a challenging playoffs that saw his efficiency plummet and minutes get reduced.

There’s still hesitancy to move him. Poole averaged 20.4 points this season and has potent offensive capability that is lacking on the roster below Curry and will be needed as the core ages further. Is it wise to move off of that when his value is at its lowest in 12 months? Will the money crunch dictate it?


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I think dynasty is over. Fantastic run though. Curry is curry but rest of the core like klay are declining. Their draft picks havent developed. Drafting wiseman was a misfire. Kuminga has potential but needs a bigger role to see exactly what he is. Moody hardly plays. Poole got a big contract and clearly needs a new change of scenary. Plus bob myers might walk. Lacob can see the end and dont think he wants to pay all that extra cash for this team
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Re: Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors? 

Post#140 » by hype_2004 » Sat May 13, 2023 3:02 pm

T-d0t wrote:Jordan Poole in Toronto? Oh boy


Sometimes a new environment is what all players need to succeed and thrive. He has all kinds of pressure to play in GS and the issue that he has with Green it exacerbated the already fragile relationship. He's exactly the type of player this Raptors need a young dynamic guard that can grow and play with Barnes. A trade between our team and GS is exactly what doctor ordered.

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