Sexy Time: The Collin Sexton Thread

[MasterIchiro]

Sexton has averaged 18.8 points, 3.7 assists and 2.8 rebounds in seven seasons — numbers on par with the 18.4 points and 4.2 assists he put up in 63 outings with the Utah Jazz this past season, starting in 61 games.

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-hornets/article310480335.html#storylink=cpy

I have him penciled in as starter, while Green is injured, and after Josh returns. Sexton is a better version of Rozier, and better fit as a secondary playmaker - 100% more of a 3-level scorer and better defender than Rozier imo. We won 43 games with that backcourt, and no Miller. I also think Mann could really add to the offense.

[Chapelchilla]

https://t.co/F58eGZc5rj

Sounds like he’s made a big imrpession so far

Excellent article. I think our offense is going to good. Even the 2nd teams. We have gone from g leaguer types starting due to injuries to being pretty deep. The 2016 playoff team won 48 because the bench guys would smoke the opps and extend leads. Hopefully, we are getting back to that kind of depth (other then the bigs, which is said to be coming when the time is right).

[MasterIchiro]

https://t.co/F58eGZc5rj

Sounds like he’s made a big imrpession so far

Excellent article. I think our offense is going to good. Even the 2nd teams. We have gone from g leaguer types starting due to injuries to being pretty deep. The 2016 playoff team won 48 because the bench guys would smoke the opps and extend leads. Hopefully, we are getting back to that kind of depth (other then the bigs, which is said to be coming when the time is right).

Sexton will really help take the load off LaMelo which should improve his efficiency, stamina closing games, and overall durability.

Ball has a better chance to play more games given a secondary playmaker to relieve some of the stress.

And at 26, Sexton fits as a longterm piece. Helps that he's feeling enthusiastic about taking a leadership role here. His makeup seems strong and I find myself already wanting to keep him beyond this season and hope that's the plan.

Fears wasn't going to shoot even close to Sexton, and Sexton provides the rim pressure we needed, and that I hoped Fears could provide.

I know some celebrated Hornets avoiding small combo guards in the draft, but here we are with Sexton. Have to diversify the offense. I would be happy to fix just one side of the ball, because that represents improvement.

Look at what Cleveland did with a backcourt purely built on offense alone - Garland & Donovan Mitchell. They contributed to wins despite the weak defense.

Kon is not going to be ready to start anytime soon. He and Liam will be fine developing on the bench with Mann.

1st unit options - #1LaMelo - #2Sexton - #3Miller
2nd unit options - #1Mann - #2McNeeley #3Kon

Once those bench players develop over the next 2 years, both units have potential to be a load to deal with for opposing defense.

We do need a defensive stopper with each unit. That can be Moussa for one. But the missing piece is a stopper for the starting unit, given all that offense, not including Miles who has averaged 20+ in a season.

[fatlever]

im agreeing in that i think sexton should, and will be, the day 1 starter between melo/miller.

[Chapelchilla]

im agreeing in that i think sexton should, and will be, the day 1 starter between melo/miller.

Yeah, I think it's -
Melo
Sexton
Miller
Bridges
Moose

And something like-

Mann/Dinwiddie/KJ
Kon/Green/Pat?
Liam/Sion
TJ/Grant
Kalk/Plumlee
Or thereabouts

[yosemiteben]

Uhh I like this guy

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[amcoolio]

I really wanted him during the draft, but Cavs would deadset on drafting him at 8 if I remember. Glad he's on board, hope we can resign him

[basketballwacko2]

I was wondering what's up with Sexton ESPN still shows him with the Jazz but they also show Nurkic with the Jazz?

[MasterIchiro]

I was wondering what's up with Sexton ESPN still shows him with the Jazz but they also show Nurkic with the Jazz?

Trade is finalized. Fanspo shows him on the Hornets. But strangely, hasn't moved Tre Mann from the cap hold tab (CH) to the roster tab even though it shows Mann as recently signed. And none of the 4 rookie contracts show up there so it looks like Charlotte doesn't have a roster crunch when we actually do have one.

But Sexton is likely the starting SG, here to take the heat off LaMelo Ball.

Not as great as D. Mitchell / Garland, but a pretty strong backcourt in my opinion.

It was a great acquisition, but I suspect (no way to prove either way) an extension of a separate signed draft day deal that Ainge agreed to provided the front office let Ace Bailey fall to 5. Peterson just preferred to sign and submit after he moved Mark Williams and let some time pass.

No way Nurkic was worth more. And no way Ainge needed Nurk with Kessler and Flip aboard.

I think Sexton is worth a 1st but being 26, I want to use Bird Rights to lock him up on a 3-year deal after this season.

I think he and LaMelo will be electric, and they're the most exciting thing about next season for me. Also love watching Tre Mann and Brandon Miller. We have some firepower with those four plus Miles if everyone stays healthy.

[GoBobs]

I think they did the Sexton trade just to get the 2nd round pick. He is not in the long term plan.

He better show something if he wants to stay.

[MasterIchiro]

I think they did the Sexton trade just to get the 2nd round pick. He is not in the long term plan.

He better show something if he wants to stay.

They did it because opposing defenses smothered LaMelo and wore him down. And when they tested Miller as a primary/secondary ball handler it gave him fits. So now they have someone to run offense when LaMelo needs a blow or falls to injury.

And you still haven't explained why Utah owners would sign off on paying a 3rd center 19 million.

[mg]

I think they did the Sexton trade just to get the 2nd round pick. He is not in the long term plan.

He better show something if he wants to stay.

Highly doubt they would trade their only veteran center and then be forced to go out and sign someone like Plumlee as a replacement for just a SRP. You could buy a SRP much cheaper than that.

[GoBobs]

I think they did the Sexton trade just to get the 2nd round pick. He is not in the long term plan.

He better show something if he wants to stay.

They did it because opposing defenses smothered LaMelo and wore him down. And when they tested Miller as a primary/secondary ball handler it gave him fits. So now they have someone to run offense when LaMelo needs a blow or falls to injury.

And you still haven't explained why Utah owners would sign off on paying a 3rd center 19 million.

We have LaMelo at pg, just drafted Kon to play sg, just signed Tre Mann to a 3 year deal while Sexton is on an expiring contract.

I can see him being in another deal before the deadline.

[MasterIchiro]

I think they did the Sexton trade just to get the 2nd round pick. He is not in the long term plan.

He better show something if he wants to stay.

They did it because opposing defenses smothered LaMelo and wore him down. And when they tested Miller as a primary/secondary ball handler it gave him fits. So now they have someone to run offense when LaMelo needs a blow or falls to injury.

And you still haven't explained why Utah owners would sign off on paying a 3rd center 19 million.

We have LaMelo at pg, just drafted Kon to play sg, just signed Tre Mann to a 3 year deal while Sexton is on an expiring contract.

I can see him being in another deal before the deadline.

You are not backing down from your assertion Hornets valued the 2nd round pick attached to Sexton more than Sexton himself, huh?

So if some team comes to you and offers you a second round pick for Sexton, you are trading Sexton for a 2nd round pick, because the 2nd round pick is the whole reason you added him in the first place.

If management were to flirt with that return, I would push back so hard against it, their heads would never stop spinning.

[fatlever]

It's probably both...

They probably like Sexton as a player and also wanted the second round pick. They also probably want to give him a tryout to see if that's someone they want to bring back into the team on a long-term deal and they have half a season to evaluate him before the trade deadline. Otherwise it shouldn't be hard to find a contending team looking for guard help that will give up some assets. I think if the team is looking competitive and headed towards the right direction aka the playoffs or even the play in, then they probably hold on to him. If it's looking like another Lost season by mid-December with half the team on the injured list, then I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to flip him at the deadline. At worst he's a one-year Hired Gun to help push for the playoffs. And to help teach some of the youngsters some good habits.

From what we've seen, it does appear that they are pretty high on him. We saw him in all the team events immediately after the trade. Sexton also seems to be pretty thrilled to be here. Start contrast from Pat who has basically been invisible since the trade. So I definitely think it's more than just getting a second round pick. I do genuine believe they want to see if that's someone worth adding to the team long term.

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[MasterIchiro]

I don't live in a world where the Jazz had to pay to move Sexton.

It does not compute.

Hornets would never under any circumstance have to pay to move Sexton after the past 2 years he had.

The value driving the deal was hidden (draft night).

That theory makes more sense to me than the whole idea of paying to move Sexton.

Contrast to Pat - they'd have to pay to move Connaughton right now.

[Walt Cronkite]

What do we think about his defense? Metrics show anything interesting?

[Bassman]

What do we think about his defense? Metrics show anything interesting?

Haven’t seen them, but most comments have said he’s not a plus defender. That was the biggest concern when the trade went down.

[Chapelchilla]

I don't live in a world where the Jazz had to pay to move Sexton.

It does not compute.

Hornets would never under any circumstance have to pay to move Sexton after the past 2 years he had.

The value driving the deal was hidden (draft night).

That theory makes more sense to me than the whole idea of paying to move Sexton.

Contrast to Pat - they'd have to pay to move Connaughton right now.

I agree. It seems possible or even likely that Sexton (and the pick) was the asset we got for passing Ace down to the Jazz.
I think he could be in the plans long term if - he plays well and wants to sign a team friendly extension And/Or - Melo gets hurt or traded.

[fatlever]

I don't live in a world where the Jazz had to pay to move Sexton.

It does not compute.

My best guess, and this is me piercing together information from various sources and interviews over the summer...

Sexton was vocal about the obvious tanking the Jazz were doing last year and wanted to play and wanted to compete and wanted to try to win games. And this clearly was not what the front office wanted to do.
The Jazz are clearing the runway for all of their young players to get as much playing time as possible with the lone exception of lauri - Who they would still probably trade if the right offer came around.
Sexton was too good to sit on the bench and probably would help them win more games than they wanted to while also blocking playing time from the stockpile of young guards/wings - collier, george, clayton, brice, cody, and Ace that need pt and shots.
nurk On the other hand isn't gonna be taking shots away from anyone and when he does play he will at least lay some screens and grab some offensive rebounds for all the young guys.

So I think they paid to get off of Sexton purely too free up playing time for the young guys while simultaneously trying to lose as many games as possible.

and nurk On an expiring deal at the trade deadline might get back a second round pick from a playoff team needing some center depth.