Could Mayo be our pick ? With article.

[perz260]

Agreed plus beasley is so fast and has so many moves i dont see how a regular power forward can contain him. I don't know what the rules are for pvt workouts, but i would lov to see the heat take haslem with them to work out against beasley, and see how he stacks up against nba defense. I find it laughable that Chimp Ford states that Mayo was impressive in his workout shooting 70% when he was being guarded by that all nba defensive whiz tyrone brazelton. I mean i thought his management team wanted to take it easy on him and maybe bring in artest, or prince, but they threw caution to the wind and brough in brazelton.LOL

[CoolD]

My question with Mayo, how much point, can the guy really play. But that is the same question about Beasley, how much of a low post force can he really be, being undersized 6 7. Even if the Heat slot him at four, can he really be effective at PF, specially in defense.

But I was suprised Mayo has such high vertical of 41 inches. The kid is pretty advance skill wise from most reports. Seems to be a real worker and has the drive to get better.


But getting rid of Blount, would be so huge that its hard to explain, some people just don't understand. If it takes giving away Beasley, let it be so.

Also if we add Miller, I could see this line up

Mayo, Wade, Miller, Marion, and free agent Center that rebounds and plays defense.

Haslem would be the six man, then move Marion back to SF for strech to play along Haslem, and Miller, Marion, Haslem rotate minutes. And to the people bitching about Millers age, the guy still has so many years left in the tank, is ridiculous bringing up his age.

And if you want talent, you have to pay for it. And if we have to overpay a couple millions to acquire talent, we did it with Shaq, won't be the last time either, we overpay for talent.

I think some people are ridiculous with this fantasy of saving all the money for 2010, and thinking Wade would want to play in a sorry team while the team waits for LeBron to save Wade and the Heat , that is beyond fairy tale as it gets.

Pat wants to be good, he will never allow so much mediocrity, waiting for a thing that might never happen down the the road.

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[MiaFLSurf]

Mayo > Beasley.

Just take Mayo at 2, Im not joking.

[Hoops23]

Nope Beasley >>> Mayo

I believe Riley will not draft Mayo at #2. If Riley doesn't like Beasley, he will trade down to take advantage to teams who likes Beasley than drafting someone at #2 outside of Rose/Beasley.

[miamiballer]

if riley takes mayo at # 2 i will puke

if riley trades down to take mayo, ill be dissapointed

seriously i cant believe we are having this discussion...its a 2 player draft for a reason

[SJ2100]

My question with Mayo, how much point, can the guy really play. But that is the same question about Beasley, how much of a low post force can he really be, being undersized 6 7. Even if the Heat slot him at four, can he really be effective at PF, specially in defense.

Beasley is 6'7" without shoes, which is not the standard unit of measurement in the NBA. Given heights for the NBA are taken with shoes on: thats why you and I both know that MJ was 6'6" and Magic was 6'9" and Shaq is 7'1". Discounting Beasley as anything less than 6'8" loses all credibility to the argument you are making. Not to mention he weighed in at a solid 240. He is a 1/4" away from being listed as 6'9", with a standing reach that measures favorably to Al Horford, who played C this whole entire year, and a full inch higher than Kevin Love, who is being seen as a PF/C in this league. So, calling him an undersized 6'7" just highlights your bias toward Rose, while forcing people to take your discussion of this draft less and less seriously.

Have you ever watched the guy play? Ever?

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

if riley takes mayo at # 2 i will puke

if riley trades down to take mayo, ill be dissapointed

seriously i cant believe we are having this discussion...its a 2 player draft for a reason

espn?

[miamiballer]

yeah prob espn or some other network showing beasley absolutely destroy his comp. week in and week out and having the highest ppg of any freshman of all time...mayo is nice but not beasley, lets be realistic here

[bigballajohn]

if mayo drops past minnesota and seattle, and riley is really lookin like he wants mayo more than beasley, then we make this trade to get the fifth pick

Miami Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +23.9 ppg, +9.8 rpg, and +6.1 apg.

Incoming Players
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
16.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.4 apg in 35.1 minutes
Hakim Warrick
6-9 SF / PF from Syracuse
11.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.4 minutes
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
9.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.6 apg in 25.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
8.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.3 minutes
Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
5.2 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 12.9 minutes

Memphis Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -23.9 ppg, -9.8 rpg, and -6.1 apg.

Incoming Players
Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
8.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 22.3 minutes
Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
5.2 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 12.9 minutes
Outgoing Players
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
16.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.4 apg in 35.1 minutes
Hakim Warrick
6-9 SF / PF from Syracuse
11.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.4 minutes
Kyle Lowry
6-0 PG from Villanova
9.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.6 apg in 25.3 minutes

adding in the second and fifth pick, i think we get a good deal, the start of a potentially good backcourt, and a fast break team that could do well in the east

Wade/Lowry/Quinn
Mayo/Cook/FA or second rounder
Miller/Wright/Davis
Marion/Warrick/Johnson
Haslem/Barron/Mourning

[SA37]

nice column by Chad Ford on a free preview of Insider from the Heat's workout with OJ

I think trading down to 5 would be risky, who knows if he'd be there

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft200 ... ayo-080609

Miami cannot trade the pick until they've actually made their selection. This trade is very viable and easy because Miami can take Beasley, assuming he is the guy who drops to us, and then wait literally 10 minutes until Memphis gets to select. If Mayo is still on board, and Miami and Memphis have agreed to the deal before hand, and then Mayo would be selected by the Grizz and then the trade would be completed.

If Miami selected Beasley and then either Minnesota or Seattle selected Mayo before the Grizzlies got to pick, then the deal would obviously be off and Miami could either keep Beasley or shop him elsewhere.

What doesn't make sense is to pass on Beasley and take Mayo with the 2nd pick. Beasley has too much value and is too good of a prospect to just allow someone else to take unimpeded.

[CRHeel94]

Well put. Taking Mayo at 2 makes no sense.

[BFRESH44]

Discucssing Mayo at all for this team makes zero SENSE. He's a friggin off guard.

Michael Beasley, or trade for a star post player in his prime right now or BUST.

That simple.

[rainking]

Frankly, I don't know why Chad Ford keeps writing that Seattle does not have anything that the Heat would want in a trade should the Heat try to move Beasley to Seattle after drafting him. Personally, I think that if the Heat could trade the rights to Beasley, plus Mark Blount to Seattle for the rights to Mayo (assuming that Minny doesn't take him), plus Wilcox and a future first round pick, it would be much better than the scenario he keeps throwing out with Memphis.

First off, Wilcox can play Center in the East and is a much better player than Mark Blount. More important than the upgrade in skill though, is that his deal expires next year. You put his expiring deal together with Marion's and all of a sudden the Heat are in position to sign a top tier free agent after next season instead of waiting for 2010. I would think that Miami would be able to squeeze a future first out of Seattle as well, considering how many picks they have in future drafts.

If Mayo is who the Heat really want, then I think they should push hard to make this deal with the Sonics happen. You would have a lineup of:

Mayo/Banks
Wade/Cook
Marion/Wright
Haslem/MLE signing
Wilcox/Mourning

Now, that team is not going to contend for a title or anything, but it lays the groundwork for major upgrades following next year.

[Lane1974]

how about Jeff Green instead of 'Cox?

[rainking]

how about Jeff Green instead of 'Cox?

Green is obviously a player that the Heat would prefer, but there would be a few problems. The first one being that I doubt the deal is seen as favorable if they have to give up Green (who they value) and the fourth pick in order to get back Beasley. I would assume that they value a combo of Green and Bayless higher than just Beasley. The second problem is that I don't think the salaries would match...The 2nd pick + Blount would not work for Green + the 4th pick, though I could be wrong.

[Pro]

If we were to try and get Green + the 4th, I would prefer for us to draft to Beasley and try to trade for Hinrich or Ford. I'm pretty sure we would end up in a better position.

[perz260]

I agree, the deals brought up by ford and ira just dont make any sense. If we trade with Seattle for Mayo and Green we are loading up on wing players and still have no inside scoring from anyone on the team. And Ira's trade is even worse as we don't even get beasley or mayo instead its lopez or love and miller; which are all good players but in beasley we are giving up a player who is supposed to become an all star, and to top it off we dont even get mayo either. You take the best player available, and unless every news agency, draftwebsite, and sports publication is wrong that is either Beasley or Rose. Then you make trades to add talent to the team.

[CRHeel94]

Seattle is not giving up Green.

[CoolD]

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Beasley is 6'7" without shoes, which is not the standard unit of measurement in the NBA. Given heights for the NBA are taken with shoes on: thats why you and I both know that MJ was 6'6" and Magic was 6'9" and Shaq is 7'1". Discounting Beasley as anything less than 6'8" loses all credibility to the argument you are making. Not to mention he weighed in at a solid 240. He is a 1/4" away from being listed as 6'9", with a standing reach that measures favorably to Al Horford, who played C this whole entire year, and a full inch higher than Kevin Love, who is being seen as a PF/C in this league. So, calling him an undersized 6'7" just highlights your bias toward Rose, while forcing people to take your discussion of this draft less and less seriously.

Have you ever watched the guy play? Ever?

Beasley is almost the same height as Haslem, has one extra inch in standing reach than Haslem, and all I hear from most Heat fans, is how small Haslem is, but know that you have a man crush on Beasley, he know he is huge. Beasly is 238 pounds. LeBron a SF weights 250. Yes by all accounts the guy is undersized if he is planning to go vs Duncan, KG, Rasheed, and a ton of PF's.

No matter how much spinning you do for your boy. The guy is 6 7. Yes that is small for PF.

[Wade2k6]

^^ So what how tall he is without shoes? He is about 6'8-1/2 with shoes on, why does it matter what he's without shoes?

LeBron at 19 was 245 pounds, 7 more then Beasley at this age. Not to mention, LeBron is one of the most athletically built players in NBA history, he has an incredible size and strength for his position.

Bosh at 19 was like 2 inches taller then Beasley, yet 15 pounds lighter.

Dwight Howard at 19 was 2 inches and 2 pounds heavier then Beasley. Howard is now about 260-270 pounds.

Who's to say Beasley won't/can't add another 10-15 pounds to his frame? He's only 19 years old you know. All those players mentioned above were 19-20 playing in the NBA their rookie year and at least 10-15 pounds lighter then they are now.