2019 Draft Thread

[Ron Swanson]

If I'm New Orleans I'm immediately offering Holiday up to PHX for the 6th pick.

[LuessiT]

If I'm New Orleans I'm immediately offering Holiday up to PHX for the 6th pick.

Why? NOP doesn't need to outright tank. They will make the POs.

[Ron Swanson]

If I'm New Orleans I'm immediately offering Holiday up to PHX for the 6th pick.

Why? NOP doesn't need to outright tank. They will make the POs.

Bold statement. I doubt it. Holiday is a decade older than their new franchise player and doesn't fit their timeline anymore. Clear that salary off your books, get another Top-10 pick, and maybe even throw an offer sheet at someone like D-Lo who fits the age of your new core much better.

[LuessiT]

If I'm New Orleans I'm immediately offering Holiday up to PHX for the 6th pick.

Why? NOP doesn't need to outright tank. They will make the POs.

Bold statement. I doubt it. Holiday is a decade older than their new franchise player and doesn't fit their timeline anymore. Clear that salary off your books, get another Top-10 pick, and maybe even throw an offer sheet at someone like D-Lo who fits the age of your new core much better.

They'll make a win now trade I'm pretty sure.

Edit: I'm going to be bold and say that the only piece that will remain on the Pelicans roster from the trade will be Hart and future picks. Griffin is certainly not done.

[LuessiT]

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Going back and forth on him but I wouldn't hate him at our pick.

[Frank Nova]

I think I'm all in on Dylan Windler at 30 if he's there. Just seems like a high character, hard worker and the best shooter in the class. He will fit in perfectly as a bench wing. Maybe can even turn into a Kyle Korver type long term. I like him a lot as a player and especially in our system.

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[M-C-G]

My very uninformed opinion; I really like Luguentz Dort. He gives me some of the same Donovan Mitchell vibe, not saying he will be that good, but there is a lot to like, seems very toolsy as a combo guard.

[M-C-G]

I really like Thybulle...I think he has something we don't really have on our roster and IF he could be solid shooting threes would provide a ton of value.

[Ron Swanson]

My very uninformed opinion; I really like Luguentz Dort. He gives me some of the same Donovan Mitchell vibe, not saying he will be that good, but there is a lot to like, seems very toolsy as a combo guard.

He's the biggest boom/bust guy for me in our range. Physically he looks the part of a poor man's James Harden in that way that he slashes to the rim and uses his strength and handle. But the efficiency is pretty bad and might never get there. I guess you have to convince yourself that he's young and the shot will improve. Lance Stephenson doesn't seem like to a too far off comp.

[LuessiT]

My very uninformed opinion; I really like Luguentz Dort. He gives me some of the same Donovan Mitchell vibe, not saying he will be that good, but there is a lot to like, seems very toolsy as a combo guard.

He's the biggest boom/bust guy for me in our range. Physically he looks the part of a poor man's James Harden in that way that he slashes to the rim and uses his strength and handle. But the efficiency is pretty bad and might never get there. I guess you have to convince yourself that he's young and the shot will improve. Lance Stephenson doesn't seem like to a too far off comp.

Is he really boom/bust though? What is he supposed to do to reach said boom potential? And what is said potential going to look like? To me he's quite the opposite.

[Ron Swanson]

My very uninformed opinion; I really like Luguentz Dort. He gives me some of the same Donovan Mitchell vibe, not saying he will be that good, but there is a lot to like, seems very toolsy as a combo guard.

He's the biggest boom/bust guy for me in our range. Physically he looks the part of a poor man's James Harden in that way that he slashes to the rim and uses his strength and handle. But the efficiency is pretty bad and might never get there. I guess you have to convince yourself that he's young and the shot will improve. Lance Stephenson doesn't seem like to a too far off comp.

Is he really boom/bust though? What is he supposed to do to reach said boom potential? And what is said potential going to look like? To me he's quite the opposite.

He's a 6'5, 224-pound guard with ball-handling skills and explosive athleticism. Only 20 years old. You don't see many guys in this draft with that combination of perimeter tools. He improves his jumper at all and that's a starting caliber NBA player pretty easily.

[SupremeHustle]

My very uninformed opinion; I really like Luguentz Dort. He gives me some of the same Donovan Mitchell vibe, not saying he will be that good, but there is a lot to like, seems very toolsy as a combo guard.

That's a helluva name. Who names their kid "Donovan"?

[LuessiT]

He's the biggest boom/bust guy for me in our range. Physically he looks the part of a poor man's James Harden in that way that he slashes to the rim and uses his strength and handle. But the efficiency is pretty bad and might never get there. I guess you have to convince yourself that he's young and the shot will improve. Lance Stephenson doesn't seem like to a too far off comp.

Is he really boom/bust though? What is he supposed to do to reach said boom potential? And what is said potential going to look like? To me he's quite the opposite.

He's a 6'5, 224-pound guard with ball-handling skills and explosive athleticism. Only 20 years old. You don't see many guys in this draft with that combination of perimeter tools. He improves his jumper at all and that's a starting caliber NBA player pretty easily.

I don't necessarely disagree, but that is no boom potential to me.

[Ron Swanson]

Is he really boom/bust though? What is he supposed to do to reach said boom potential? And what is said potential going to look like? To me he's quite the opposite.

He's a 6'5, 224-pound guard with ball-handling skills and explosive athleticism. Only 20 years old. You don't see many guys in this draft with that combination of perimeter tools. He improves his jumper at all and that's a starting caliber NBA player pretty easily.

I don't necessarely disagree, but that is no boom potential to me.

I didn't say that was his ceiling, and if you're expecting something more than that in that range of the draft then you might come up empty. Most drafts don't have a Draymond Green or Nikola Jokic waiting in the 2nd round.

[LuessiT]

He's a 6'5, 224-pound guard with ball-handling skills and explosive athleticism. Only 20 years old. You don't see many guys in this draft with that combination of perimeter tools. He improves his jumper at all and that's a starting caliber NBA player pretty easily.

I don't necessarely disagree, but that is no boom potential to me.

I didn't say that was his ceiling, and if you're expecting something more than that in that range of the draft then you might come up empty. Most drafts don't have a Draymond Green or Nikola Jokic waiting in the 2nd round.

I'm not, but you said he's the biggest boom/bust guy and to me he's exactly the opposite. With his body type there is nothing holding him back from being at least an end of the bench contributer right from the getgo but also I don't think his ceiling is all that high since he lacks shot creating for himself and others. For example shooters that can create for themselves like Poole/Herro/Sirvydis/Wyndler/Johnson have significantly higher ceilings imo.

[LuessiT]

By the way what are you guys thoughts on Nic Claxton? He's one of the more intriguing prospects. Point center.

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[jakecronus8]

Odds of getting someone who earns a rotation spot next year are slim. Go upside

Porter
Lecque
Obiesie
Samanic
Sirvydis
Kabengele
THT
Bazley

All good redshirt candidates

[LuessiT]

Odds of getting someone who earns a rotation spot next year are slim. Go upside

Porter
Lecque
Obiesie
Samanic
Sirvydis
Kabengele
THT
Bazley

All good redshirt candidates

I don't see how Lecque is draftable. Like the rest, except I'm down on Porter.

[jakecronus8]

Odds of getting someone who earns a rotation spot next year are slim. Go upside

Porter
Lecque
Obiesie
Samanic
Sirvydis
Kabengele
THT
Bazley

All good redshirt candidates

I don't see how Lecque is draftable. Like the rest, except I'm down on Porter.

Lecque’s basically a lottery ticket. Outside of Zion he might be the best athlete in this draft. Porter is definitely a question mark because of the injury but I think I could easily see him developing a good old man game.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't necessarely disagree, but that is no boom potential to me.

I didn't say that was his ceiling, and if you're expecting something more than that in that range of the draft then you might come up empty. Most drafts don't have a Draymond Green or Nikola Jokic waiting in the 2nd round.

I'm not, but you said he's the biggest boom/bust guy and to me he's exactly the opposite. With his body type there is nothing holding him back from being at least an end of the bench contributer right from the getgo but also I don't think his ceiling is all that high since he lacks shot creating for himself and others. For example shooters that can create for themselves like Poole/Herro/Sirvydis/Wyndler/Johnson have significantly higher ceilings imo.

Don't think Herro is in our range but I also don't understand how any of the bolded guys will be able to create their own shot at the NBA-level. They're pure shooters off the catch. If Wyndler and Johnson could consistently create for themselves then they'd probably both be lottery picks.