Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - CP3/Gallo trade idea pg.81

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Just wondering...

Milwaukee in Holiday
Milwaukee out Bledsoe, Ilyasova, RoLo, Indy picks

New Orleans in Winslow, Dragic, Indy picks
New Orleans out Holiday

Miami in Bledsoe, Ilyasova, RoLo
Miami out Winslow, Dragic

Bucks end up with a huge upgrade at PG at the cost of the Indy picks. Losing Ersan and RoLo sucks, but Milwaukee will have 4.2 mil and two empty spots to replace them in the buyout market. Henson would be a good pickup, if Cavs let him go.

I would trade Bledsoe for holiday straight up but I would feel very nervous about it. adding all that extra value would hurt the team dramatically

[Ron Swanson]

If the argument is that Bledsoe is a bad fit come playoff time because of spacing issues, then I have no idea how people think Jrue Holiday will help there.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

jrue holiday... a slightly younger slightly better version of Bledsoe.... at double the price.

no idea how hed fit lockerrom chemistry wise, whether hed accept a reduced role, or how long it would take for him to adjust to the system.

so nah... keep Bledsoe.

if we ever did move him id want a younger guy that plays defense, can push the tempo, finish...all like Bledsoe..... but can hit a 3. basically a super max type. good luck with that right?

if Bledsoe hurts us in a series because he cant stretch the floor then you put in hill. problem solved.

[DingleJerry]

Agree with GoS. Don't think the upgrade from Bled to Jrue is worth that must in excess value. It's gutting our depth for a slight improvement, and as Ron points out Jrue still has somewhat of the same spacing problem as Bledsoe, it's a marginal improvement on that issue.

[neiLz]

Not sure what upgrades this team can make. Their strength is depth and their weakness is probably an ELITE 2nd banana. Only way to get that is to consolidate depth and even then, who would they target? Jrue would cost something like Bled, Ersan,filler + picks which is a lot for a solid upgrade, but does he move the needle enough?


It would be tough to find a taker for Midds + assetts for a star replacement.

[Matches Malone]

I like Holiday but as others have said, it's a marginal upgrade from Bledsoe and would cost too much to get him here. I'm still worried we will make a move at the deadline and it won't work, ala Mirotic. The guy completely flamed out when we got him. This might be the year to just stand pat and let the team chemistry and depth continue to thrive.

[neiLz]

I like Holiday but as others have said, it's a marginal upgrade from Bledsoe and would cost too much to get him here. I'm still worried we will make a move at the deadline and it won't work, ala Mirotic. The guy completely flamed out when we got him. This might be the year to just stand pat and let the team chemistry and depth continue to thrive.

what's crazy is they tried and almost succeeded to fill their weaknesses. They got their backup big in Rolo, Wes as a Brogdon replacement (Donte as well), their sharp shooter in Korver hasn't really materialized (he's still shooting around 37% and defenses still pay attention to him).

Bogdan has been linked but the bucks will probably have to give up an assett (donte or DJ + picks) for a rental. I'd be down to give up a DJ and a pick but no way in hell donte.

A star doesn't seem realistic with the way the bucks salaries are as they'd have to give multiple players up. I am just hoping they stay healthy. This team is really solid and the east is theirs for the taking.

[SirChurros]

The obsession with Holiday is bizarre. I actually like him, but think you're insane if you're sending out a starter and s couple rotation guys to get him.

As someone else said, you could probably convince me on Bledsoe for Holiday.

[yannisk]

We don't want a new Mirotic but it would be great if we could get another G Hill

[ShootingtheJ]

And when your investing major assets, yeah, you're probably looking for those players. When you're investing $2-4 million you're probably looking for guys who can contribute to your team in ways that help you win basketball games. As tough as it must be for you after your (continued) parade of "he's done, can't help the team" posts about Rolo and Matthews, those guys are doing just that.

Robin Lopez has been a replacement level player for the Bucks, and he's a $9.77 million investment. Those are facts, unlike what you've shared.

What I've shared? You mean literal facts with quantifiable data showing he's actually been pretty good?

But yeah, let's keep believing facts like this one:

The team has been much better when they use 2 PFs.

Some of the lineup data your using for Giannis/Ersan includes Robin Lopez. All the 2 man lineup data is too small of sample to be useful. Otherwise I'd post Giannis/DJ lineups, which rock, or even Ersan/DJ lineups.

If Robin was actually good, you wouldn't need to attach him to Giannis to make him appear useful. Yes, everyone looks good with Giannis. Giannis is amazing.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

We don't want a new Mirotic but it would be great if we could get another G Hill

jae crowder is the name that sticks out in that vein. steal minutes from brown and Korver but not sure who else?

[emunney]

We don't want a new Mirotic but it would be great if we could get another G Hill

Who is the forward version of George Hill? Millsap I guess -- we'll have to wait until the summer.

[skones]

We don't want a new Mirotic but it would be great if we could get another G Hill

I'm rather intrigued by the idea of Isaiah Thomas as an isolation microwave option off the bench should our offense stagnate against a playoff defense. In terms of vets on bad teams you've got guys like Jae Crowder, Marvin Williams, Thaddeus Young, Davis Bertans, Derrick Favors, Marcus Morris. Overall, just not a super inspiring list.

[emunney]

If the argument is that Bledsoe is a bad fit come playoff time because of spacing issues, then I have no idea how people think Jrue Holiday will help there.

I think the Bledsoe is a bad fit come playoff time argument is mainly about how the pressure gets to him.

[emunney]

I also remain intrigued by the Slo Mo fit. But I'm not making any trades.

[blazza18]

Iguodala would be a nice add to put us over the top and to keep him away from the LA teams. Just not sure how we could get it done.

[drone3]

Iguodala would be a nice add to put us over the top and to keep him away from the LA teams. Just not sure how we could get it done.

Iggy would be an amazing get, probably won't happen.

Would also really like Arci from bulls as third PG.

[crkone]

Iguodala would be a nice add to put us over the top and to keep him away from the LA teams. Just not sure how we could get it done.

Iggy would be an amazing get, probably won't happen.

Would also really like Arci from bulls as third PG.

I'm not sure what role he would fill to be honest. Korver's minutes?

[JoeyMorgan619]

We don't want a new Mirotic but it would be great if we could get another G Hill

Who is the forward version of George Hill? Millsap I guess -- we'll have to wait until the summer.

Played with Bud quite a bit in Atl too...

[DrWood]

I'm not sure that you can just scrap heap a guy that shoots 39% from three and is an elite perimeter defender. I think that he will definitely have suitors for his wares when his contract comes up.

Are you even reading what you're saying? If Sterling was an elite perimeter defender he'd be a starter and wouldn't collect DNPCDs. Sterling is a dog on defense and especially on the boards but more often than not he's not that effective.

He is an elite perimeter defender that is playing behind multiple elite perimeter defenders. As soon as those guys are gone, then he will see playing time. DDV and Wes are both playing defense at an elite level right now.

He's an elite rebounder for his size. That means the opposing team gets fewer shots and scores less, but his man2man and team defense is not elite at all. Both Pat and DDV are better.