Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

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Still need another quality Big for the Playoffs, as it's hard to imagine Porzingis,
Rob and Horford all performing at their optimum then. For the regular season,
they can get by with whomever is healthy of the three and the underrated Kornet,
but it's difficult to see these three being intact when the Post Season rolls around.
I mean, they're not even starting off the season healthy, and that is obviously a big concern.

Literally every player on our team is expected to be healthy when the season begins.

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None of us, and I repeat, none of us can guarantee the veracity of any Celtics injury pronouncement,
because they lie through their teeth, season after season, with their evaluations of players' injuries.

We have no clue at the moment whether Brogdon or Porzingis is actually going to be healthy to start the season.
I mean, it would be great and help the team to get off to a crushing start with their easy early season schedule.
But, after fooling us so many times over the years, if you trust what they have to say, you are just deluding yourself...

It's not just the team saying it, but Porzingis said it himself.

Porzingis revealed that the plan is to be ready by the start of the NBA season. “I now have a four to six week plan that I have to follow. Feelings are good. Of course, I am not yet in such a shape that I can play and train fully. But going step by step, everything should be fine by the start of the season," said the Boston Celtics player.

https://www.sportazinas.com/porzingis-bostonai-teicu-ka-man-ir-loti-svarigi-but-lidzas-ar-valstsvienibu/

Injuries happen. They're a part of the game. Sometimes injuries take longer to heal than anticipated at first. Sometimes injuries heal faster than anticipated and sometimes the player recovers right on schedule.

Sometimes the player doesn't do a good enough job of sticking to the rehab plan. They might go rogue and run out there into a pickup game before the training staff told them to do so. Maybe the player wasn't keeping up with their rehab exercises.

It doesn't mean the team is a bunch of liars. Keep in mind, the guy who used to be the Head Trainer for the Celtics (Art Horne) moved into a very different role beginning last summer (he's now Director of Organizational Growth and Team Development) so let's not pretend that we've had the same training staff for the past 10 yrs.

And even Horne joined the Celtics during the summer of 2017, which was *after* Isaiah Thomas played through his hip injury during the 2017 playoffs, derailing his career..

Robert Williams is one of the most injury prone players in the league. Is that the Celtics fault? Of course not - he was injury prone, even when he was in college. That's the main reason why he fell to the end of the 1st round in the draft, even though ESPN's Jay Bilas called him a top 5 talent in the draft.

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With Stevens vs. Warren, the question is do you want upside or do you want floor?

Despite being older Warren is the upside play. Prior to getting injured he had a two-three year stretch where he was phenomenal. For the two years prior (100 game sample size) he was a 40%+ shooter from three. He struggled a lot last year but that's somewhat to be expected coming off a year of being out of action. With another season under his belt, if he can get back closer to what he was he could be a massive steal. That's a big "if" though and the injury concerns are a whole topic of their own, but the upside is there potentially if you're willing to pay the minor cost to take the ride.

Stevens on the other hand might not have a high ceiling but he seems like a player with a rock solid floor. His clear limitation is his inability to shoot from range, which is unlikely to change for him, but he's a scrappy defender and a hustle guy. Given what we just lost in Smart, Stevens could be a bargain basement version off the bench. Don't expect a ton out of him, but he'd be another tool for the toolbox.

I'm almost tempted to say give me Stevens and let it be an open competition between him Walsh and Brissett for those defensive wing minutes. With Warren I think you'd run the risk of Joe deferring to TJ because he's the vet with the pedigree when I think it's a toss up as to who has the better season next year between him, Stevens, Walsh and Brissett. It puts me off a bit to think that name brand recognition would potentially get in the way of the best lineup. It was one of the things I was initially worried about with Blake until they unveiled their plan with him. I'm guessing Stevens will come in with less of a chip on his shoulder which might fare better.

Ultimately though with the 14th spot I'd go upside and take Warren. The cost vs. the reward seems too good to pass up even if he ends up just a towel waiver.

Solid breakdown but a couple of points I would add...

I disagree that Stevens is unlikely to become a better shooter. He's actually shown steady improvement each year in the league:
Year 1: 16% from 3
Year 2: 28% from 3
Year 3: 32% from 3

And he also showed stark improvement from 3 during the course of last season:
First 34 games: 27.8% from 3
Last 40 games: 38.1% from 3

I watched some film from a game last December. It looked like he had a little bit of a hitch in his shot. And he was releasing the ball a little bit off-center, off to the left a little bit. I'm guessing he cleaned those things up and that's why he shot the ball so much better later in the season.

And Stevens is just 26, only played 3 NBA seasons so the chances are good that he hasn't yet peaked and is still a guy who's getting better.

Warren on the other hand, I think it's safe to say he peaked in the bubble. Guys don't usually get much better once they turn 30 (he'll be 30 when the season starts) and recently had a serious foot injury that sidelined them for 2 full seasons.

They both shot 32% from 3 last season. But again, Stevens shot 38% over his last 40 games (and 40 games is as many games as Warren played all of last season). Warren on the other hand, shot 24% over his last 21 games last season so he's trending in the other direction.

The 26 yr old is rapidly improving as a shooter. The guy who turns 30 next month is getting worse. And I don't put a ton of weight in Warren's pre-injury numbers. He's obviously a different player now, after suffering a serious foot injury that sidelined him for 2 full seasons.

Lots of guys had flukey shooting in the bubble. Like Smart who had 4 games with 5+ threes in an 8 game span in the playoffs, and Rondo who shot like Reggie Miller in the bubble. Austin Rivers had a 50 point game in the bubble. A lot of flukey things happened and it was 3 yrs ago now..

And Stevens is a better defender, better rebounder, better hustle/energy guy, better cutter, less of a ball stopper.

Warren is a better shot creator but is that what we want on this Celtics team? Do we want another guy who is just looking to get his own points and create his own shots? Another iso guy who doesn't move the ball? I'll take Stevens..

I think if it was likely that Stevens was to become a better shooter he wouldn't be walking around right now looking for the minimum. And in fairness the same can be said about Warren too.

It's obviously not impossible that he does, but at 26 it's fair to say unlikely. Maybe he did change his mechanics and he's a different shooter but I'd also think a team would see that and jump on him. During that hot 40 game stretch you reference, he was still only 75% from the free throw line. I think that usually gives you a good indication if a guy's fixed his shot or not. It's better than his career average but still not good, I'd hazard a guess that he hasn't turned a big corner but would be happy to be wrong.

If he can even be league average he'd be a rotation level player with what else he brings but I think that gets said about a ton of guys and 1/50 actually gets to that level.

Warren certainly peaked in the bubble, but his peak was pretty damn high and it wasn't exclusively in the bubble either. If you can just get a fraction of that out of him that's still solid for your 14th guy. The wheels fell off for him in Phoenix but he was decent to start in Brooklyn (10/31/1 on 52/33/82% splits). I don't think he's entirely cooked and in a niche role I think he can be useful. It's fair to say that's just as unlikely at Stevens making more leaps but at least with TJ we've seen him perform at that level already (obviously the injury changes things, but still).

You raise a fair point about whose style fits better but I don't think it's fair to chalk TJ up as just an iso scorer/ball stopper. He's a solid defender and is more well-rounded on offense than that gives him credit for. Stevens is an easier guy to fit into lineups because of his defense/rebounding and ability to add value without scoring but Warren has more upside to be an impact player. So again I think it comes back to do you want upside or floor. Both are fine options but I'm for rolling the dice on higher upside.

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Wouldn't be surprise if Griffin picked a place closer to home. Probably between LAC and Boston.

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With Stevens vs. Warren, the question is do you want upside or do you want floor?

Despite being older Warren is the upside play. Prior to getting injured he had a two-three year stretch where he was phenomenal. For the two years prior (100 game sample size) he was a 40%+ shooter from three. He struggled a lot last year but that's somewhat to be expected coming off a year of being out of action. With another season under his belt, if he can get back closer to what he was he could be a massive steal. That's a big "if" though and the injury concerns are a whole topic of their own, but the upside is there potentially if you're willing to pay the minor cost to take the ride.

Stevens on the other hand might not have a high ceiling but he seems like a player with a rock solid floor. His clear limitation is his inability to shoot from range, which is unlikely to change for him, but he's a scrappy defender and a hustle guy. Given what we just lost in Smart, Stevens could be a bargain basement version off the bench. Don't expect a ton out of him, but he'd be another tool for the toolbox.

I'm almost tempted to say give me Stevens and let it be an open competition between him Walsh and Brissett for those defensive wing minutes. With Warren I think you'd run the risk of Joe deferring to TJ because he's the vet with the pedigree when I think it's a toss up as to who has the better season next year between him, Stevens, Walsh and Brissett. It puts me off a bit to think that name brand recognition would potentially get in the way of the best lineup. It was one of the things I was initially worried about with Blake until they unveiled their plan with him. I'm guessing Stevens will come in with less of a chip on his shoulder which might fare better.

Ultimately though with the 14th spot I'd go upside and take Warren. The cost vs. the reward seems too good to pass up even if he ends up just a towel waiver.

Solid breakdown but a couple of points I would add...

I disagree that Stevens is unlikely to become a better shooter. He's actually shown steady improvement each year in the league:
Year 1: 16% from 3
Year 2: 28% from 3
Year 3: 32% from 3

And he also showed stark improvement from 3 during the course of last season:
First 34 games: 27.8% from 3
Last 40 games: 38.1% from 3

I watched some film from a game last December. It looked like he had a little bit of a hitch in his shot. And he was releasing the ball a little bit off-center, off to the left a little bit. I'm guessing he cleaned those things up and that's why he shot the ball so much better later in the season.

And Stevens is just 26, only played 3 NBA seasons so the chances are good that he hasn't yet peaked and is still a guy who's getting better.

Warren on the other hand, I think it's safe to say he peaked in the bubble. Guys don't usually get much better once they turn 30 (he'll be 30 when the season starts) and recently had a serious foot injury that sidelined them for 2 full seasons.

They both shot 32% from 3 last season. But again, Stevens shot 38% over his last 40 games (and 40 games is as many games as Warren played all of last season). Warren on the other hand, shot 24% over his last 21 games last season so he's trending in the other direction.

The 26 yr old is rapidly improving as a shooter. The guy who turns 30 next month is getting worse. And I don't put a ton of weight in Warren's pre-injury numbers. He's obviously a different player now, after suffering a serious foot injury that sidelined him for 2 full seasons.

Lots of guys had flukey shooting in the bubble. Like Smart who had 4 games with 5+ threes in an 8 game span in the playoffs, and Rondo who shot like Reggie Miller in the bubble. Austin Rivers had a 50 point game in the bubble. A lot of flukey things happened and it was 3 yrs ago now..

And Stevens is a better defender, better rebounder, better hustle/energy guy, better cutter, less of a ball stopper.

Warren is a better shot creator but is that what we want on this Celtics team? Do we want another guy who is just looking to get his own points and create his own shots? Another iso guy who doesn't move the ball? I'll take Stevens..

I think if it was likely that Stevens was to become a better shooter he wouldn't be walking around right now looking for the minimum. And in fairness the same can be said about Warren too.

It's obviously not impossible that he does, but at 26 it's fair to say unlikely. Maybe he did change his mechanics and he's a different shooter but I'd also think a team would see that and jump on him. During that hot 40 game stretch you reference, he was still only 75% from the free throw line. I think that usually gives you a good indication if a guy's fixed his shot or not.

I mean, you could say that about any of these guys. If they were that good, they wouldn't be walking around right now looking for the minimum.

You could say that about Oubre, PJ Washington, Blake Griffin, Garuba, Tyty Washington, Edmond Sumner, Stevens, Warren, Diallo, Javonte, Christian Wood, JaVale Mcgee, Rivers, Terence Davis, Svi, Danny Green, Terrence Ross, Will Barton, etc.

That doesn't make them a bad player, just because they're still a FA who might have to take a minimum contract. Some of them are good, solid players who can help a contender win games. It's just that their role players, they're not stars. And it's later in the offseason when teams don't have a lot of roster spots left. Players are waiting to sign with a team till they see what happens with Lillard, Harden trades, some guys are weighing options in terms of possibly signing for more $ and more playing time overseas, etc.

The other main reason why there's lots of decent players who are still sitting there in free agency is because right now there is a TON of basketball talent in the world. Possibly more talented pro basketball players right now than ever before. And only so many NBA roster spots, only so many minutes to go around, only so many contracts teams can give a guy that are more $ than the minimum, especially with the ramifications of the new CBA.

And as for Lamar's shot...75% is not bad at all from the FT line. League average last season was 78%. So 75% is slightly below that. I'd be more concerned if he was under 70% from the FT line. From my understanding and from the research I've come across, the correlation of 3pt shooting / FT shooting is mainly:

-To be an ELITE 3 pt shooter, you typically want to see the guy hitting at least 80% from the FT line
-If the guy is consistently under 70% FT, he probably will struggle to be a league average 3 PT shooter

That's it.

We don't need Lamar to be an elite 3 pt shooter. So I'm not concerned if he's under 80% FT. The good news is he's well over 70%, so there is a chance he can be a league average 3 pt shooter, which is really all we need from him - especially given the value he brings in other areas.

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Jayson Tatum with Cooper Flagg...

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Jayson Tatum with Cooper Flagg...

Apparently Cooper Flagg hasn't earned his spots yet.

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He wasn't awful in summer league. He had some moments where he looked a little bit shaky. But he also had a few moments where he really popped.

And he only played in TWO summer league games. That's a tiny sample size. Way too small of a sample size for it to even be worth discussing.

Oh, and the 2 games he played in were our 3rd and 4th games. Which means he was having to play catch up, after sitting out the first couple of games (and also joining the team late so he had less practice time prior to SL than everyone else) compared to the others on the the team who were in rhythm, had 2 games under their belt playing together to build chemistry and then here comes Banton the new guy in game 3, with no chemistry built with these guys yet. Plus the teams we were playing against all had 2-3 games under their belt playing together, while Banton was coming in cold playing in his 1st game.

And on top of that, he was playing with an injured finger (the reason why he sat out the first 2 games) and probably a reason why his jumper was off.

Look, as it stands now, Banton is the 13th man (on a roster that currently has 13 guys) and once we sign another 1 or 2 guys, he'll probably be the 14th man - or maybe even the 15th man. This is like people complaining last season about Justin Jackson being on the team. Like, who cares, it's the last man at the end of the bench. It's not gonna make or break our title chances at all.

Banton though, I would think is pretty good compared to most 13th-15th men out there on a roster right now. He's at least got upside, potential. The potential is being a 6'9" PG. How many of those have there ever been? Magic and Ben Simmons, that's pretty much it. Magic is the best PG of all time. And Simmons was an all-NBA player before he stopped caring about basketball and had some injuries.

For a 6'9" dude, he can handle the ball very well, can get to his spots, is able to get downhill, and does a nice job of seeing the whole floor - even while he's handling the ball and getting to his spots. Makes pretty good decisions in terms of when to drive, when to take it all the way to the rim, when to dish it out, when to shoot. He's not a great defender but he's decent enough defensively, and since he's still just 23 yrs old so can get better (on D and on offense too). And with his length (6'9" with a 6'10.25" wingspan) it helps him to be disruptive defensively and allow the Celtics to put out a very big lineup with Banton at PG.

His shooting is obviously an area he needs to keep working at. But from the film I've seen, his form has improved over the past couple of yrs in Toronto. He just has to keep getting more reps, and perhaps our coaches will be able to tweak some things with his shot as well. Even without the shot, he could still be a solid player with his ability to run an offense, facilitate, find the open man, push the pace, pressure the rim and play solid D. If the shot comes along, he could *really* emerge as a factor for us.

Lastly, I know we shouldn't put too much stock in random offseason open run footage, but take a look at this. Banton looks very comfortable out there with the ball in his hands, he looks like a legit floor general. Dropping dimes left and right and also scoring on drives to the basket. Again, doing a nice job of knowing when to drive, when to take it to the rim himself and when to dish it..

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He's 6'7. Still a big PG....But he's not 6'9

Says here 6'9" in shoes. The in shoes measurements are the official ones.

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O, Cool. I didn't know that. He's always been listed as 6'7. Either way, he's big for a PG

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Does this team really need Banton? He was awful in the summer league. Not a fan of that signing at the moment and I'm not sure what Brad saw in him. Hope he proves me wrong.

He wasn't awful in summer league. He had some moments where he looked a little bit shaky. But he also had a few moments where he really popped.

And he only played in TWO summer league games. That's a tiny sample size. Way too small of a sample size for it to even be worth discussing.

Oh, and the 2 games he played in were our 3rd and 4th games. Which means he was having to play catch up, after sitting out the first couple of games (and also joining the team late so he had less practice time prior to SL than everyone else) compared to the others on the the team who were in rhythm, had 2 games under their belt playing together to build chemistry and then here comes Banton the new guy in game 3, with no chemistry built with these guys yet. Plus the teams we were playing against all had 2-3 games under their belt playing together, while Banton was coming in cold playing in his 1st game.

And on top of that, he was playing with an injured finger (the reason why he sat out the first 2 games) and probably a reason why his jumper was off.

Look, as it stands now, Banton is the 13th man (on a roster that currently has 13 guys) and once we sign another 1 or 2 guys, he'll probably be the 14th man - or maybe even the 15th man. This is like people complaining last season about Justin Jackson being on the team. Like, who cares, it's the last man at the end of the bench. It's not gonna make or break our title chances at all.

Banton though, I would think is pretty good compared to most 13th-15th men out there on a roster right now. He's at least got upside, potential. The potential is being a 6'9" PG. How many of those have there ever been? Magic and Ben Simmons, that's pretty much it. Magic is the best PG of all time. And Simmons was an all-NBA player before he stopped caring about basketball and had some injuries.

For a 6'9" dude, he can handle the ball very well, can get to his spots, is able to get downhill, and does a nice job of seeing the whole floor - even while he's handling the ball and getting to his spots. Makes pretty good decisions in terms of when to drive, when to take it all the way to the rim, when to dish it out, when to shoot. He's not a great defender but he's decent enough defensively, and since he's still just 23 yrs old so can get better (on D and on offense too). And with his length (6'9" with a 6'10.25" wingspan) it helps him to be disruptive defensively and allow the Celtics to put out a very big lineup with Banton at PG.

His shooting is obviously an area he needs to keep working at. But from the film I've seen, his form has improved over the past couple of yrs in Toronto. He just has to keep getting more reps, and perhaps our coaches will be able to tweak some things with his shot as well. Even without the shot, he could still be a solid player with his ability to run an offense, facilitate, find the open man, push the pace, pressure the rim and play solid D. If the shot comes along, he could *really* emerge as a factor for us.

Lastly, I know we shouldn't put too much stock in random offseason open run footage, but take a look at this. Banton looks very comfortable out there with the ball in his hands, he looks like a legit floor general. Dropping dimes left and right and also scoring on drives to the basket. Again, doing a nice job of knowing when to drive, when to take it to the rim himself and when to dish it..

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Just my opinion. Like I said, hope he proves me wrong

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We lost our two grittiest guys in Marcus and Grant, so I'd prefer Stevens over Warren to replace some of that. We've already got plenty of finesse guys. We'll need a few guys with grit.

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Wouldn't be surprise if Griffin picked a place closer to home. Probably between LAC and Boston.

Blake wasn't happy about how things ended with LAC the first time. They rolled out the red carpet to get him to sign a 5 year deal and then stopped communicating with him and wouldn't answer the phone and traded him to the Pistons 6 months later, which he found out about from twitter. And other weird stuff like a fake jersey retirement or something.

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We lost our two grittiest guys in Marcus and Grant, so I'd prefer Stevens over Warren to replace some of that. We've already got plenty of finesse guys. We'll need a few guys with grit.

Agreed.

Lamar + Blake for the last 2 roster spots would give us some good grittiness and toughness.

Plus, both are unselfish team-first guys who move the ball (Warren is a ball stopper).

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Does this team really need Banton? He was awful in the summer league. Not a fan of that signing at the moment and I'm not sure what Brad saw in him. Hope he proves me wrong.

He wasn't awful in summer league. He had some moments where he looked a little bit shaky. But he also had a few moments where he really popped.

And he only played in TWO summer league games. That's a tiny sample size. Way too small of a sample size for it to even be worth discussing.

Oh, and the 2 games he played in were our 3rd and 4th games. Which means he was having to play catch up, after sitting out the first couple of games (and also joining the team late so he had less practice time prior to SL than everyone else) compared to the others on the the team who were in rhythm, had 2 games under their belt playing together to build chemistry and then here comes Banton the new guy in game 3, with no chemistry built with these guys yet. Plus the teams we were playing against all had 2-3 games under their belt playing together, while Banton was coming in cold playing in his 1st game.

And on top of that, he was playing with an injured finger (the reason why he sat out the first 2 games) and probably a reason why his jumper was off.

Look, as it stands now, Banton is the 13th man (on a roster that currently has 13 guys) and once we sign another 1 or 2 guys, he'll probably be the 14th man - or maybe even the 15th man. This is like people complaining last season about Justin Jackson being on the team. Like, who cares, it's the last man at the end of the bench. It's not gonna make or break our title chances at all.

Banton though, I would think is pretty good compared to most 13th-15th men out there on a roster right now. He's at least got upside, potential. The potential is being a 6'9" PG. How many of those have there ever been? Magic and Ben Simmons, that's pretty much it. Magic is the best PG of all time. And Simmons was an all-NBA player before he stopped caring about basketball and had some injuries.

For a 6'9" dude, he can handle the ball very well, can get to his spots, is able to get downhill, and does a nice job of seeing the whole floor - even while he's handling the ball and getting to his spots. Makes pretty good decisions in terms of when to drive, when to take it all the way to the rim, when to dish it out, when to shoot. He's not a great defender but he's decent enough defensively, and since he's still just 23 yrs old so can get better (on D and on offense too). And with his length (6'9" with a 6'10.25" wingspan) it helps him to be disruptive defensively and allow the Celtics to put out a very big lineup with Banton at PG.

His shooting is obviously an area he needs to keep working at. But from the film I've seen, his form has improved over the past couple of yrs in Toronto. He just has to keep getting more reps, and perhaps our coaches will be able to tweak some things with his shot as well. Even without the shot, he could still be a solid player with his ability to run an offense, facilitate, find the open man, push the pace, pressure the rim and play solid D. If the shot comes along, he could *really* emerge as a factor for us.

Lastly, I know we shouldn't put too much stock in random offseason open run footage, but take a look at this. Banton looks very comfortable out there with the ball in his hands, he looks like a legit floor general. Dropping dimes left and right and also scoring on drives to the basket. Again, doing a nice job of knowing when to drive, when to take it to the rim himself and when to dish it..

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Relax I'm not reading all that

Just my opinion. Like I said, hope he proves me wrong

You could just skim it and be done in the amount of time it took you to write that response

But the short version is: who cares about summer league. He only played 2 SL games, that's a tiny sample size and he was playing with guys he had never played with before, most of whom won't even be on an NBA roster this season. And he was playing with an injured finger. He wasn't even that bad in SL either.

Brad got him because he's got upside as a guy who is just 23 and for a guy who's 6'9" he can move really well, handle the ball, run the point, facilitate an offense, get downhill, get to the basket and find the open man.

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I Wonder why Boston is considered NOT good at developing young players?? Because they need to play. Bringing in Warren and/or Stevens will only serve to negate Progress in Hauser for a steady role for the first time and Jordan Walsh. If Warren and/or Stevens gets brought in Joe will F*ck it up with indecisiveness. It's not enough that Walsh has to battle it out with Hauser/Banton/Brisset/Scrubb, but adding 1 or 2 more wing types will definitely delay everything I believe Walsh can turn in to.

J Walsh should clean up on all the 10th man minutes for this team. If he plays well, he can move up. And you don't have to be in rebuilding mode to play young players. Juart give them a STEADY and consistent role.

If Boston needs to Fill out their roster, get a 4 or 5 man. There is certainly a greater potential need there.

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I perceive the roster gap at 2/3. Javonte Green has been my desired 14th guy.
The fact that they're looking at two guys who are more of 3/4 maybe indicates some confidence in Banton.

DW/JB/JT/RW/KP
MB/PP?/SH/OB/AH
DB/JW/Stevens?/Luke

Stevens sounds/looks redundant with Brissett, but I like guys like that so I'm all for it. I've always been a big Warren fan but I don't see the fit here so much right now.

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Louis King is a guy who impressed me when we got killed by the Kings in the summer league championship game. I thought he was maybe the Kings 2nd best player in that game, after Davion Mitchell.

But that was just summer league and it was 2 years ago now. Doesn't seem like he's done much since then, except score a bunch of points in the g league. He's 24 so still kind of young - if we bring him in for training camp, this might be his last shot to try and prove he's an NBA player before it's decided that he's destined for a career overseas on or in the the g league (not that there's anything wrong with that).

I'm fine with giving him a camp invite. Who knows, he could end up turning heads in camp. If not, there's nothing to lose..