2016-17 MVP Discussion Thread

[K_chile22]

Harden with another tripple double. 3rd game in a row.

I've been going after RWB for his absurd triple doubles so I'm going to stay intellectually honest here. This one was Ricky Davis-like.

Hou was up 8 with the ball and he got an assist with 10 seconds left. After the opposition stopped trying.

This BS needs to stop.

Even if he didn't get it 20-something 9 and 10 is pretty damn good lol who cares that he wanted a triple double

They also had to get a shot off as the shot clock was at 2 and the wizards completely left Harrell all alone near the basket, wasn't really forced

[AussieBuck]

He wants that MVP and knows his old teammate is getting a lot of publicity for the triple doubles so he's chasing a few extra. I think it's all good entertainment.

[red96]

He wants that MVP and knows his old teammate is getting a lot of publicity for the triple doubles so he's chasing a few extra. I think it's all good entertainment.

Yeah, the tripple double is overrated in a way. Is a 20-12-8 game any less than an 20-10-10 game? Its just that the latter stat line has a name so it's perceived as being better.

[Young_Star11]

The triple double is a bit arbitrary, but you can say the same about all stats..

[Slava]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

[Ballerhogger]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

If he can get to 4th seed quickly and hold it then we talk about it ...Their record is so far from CLE right now.

[Ballerhogger]

The triple double is a bit arbitrary, but you can say the same about all stats..

As shown by draymond last night.

[Slava]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

If he can get to 4th seed quickly and hold it then we talk about it ...Their record is so far from CLE right now.

They are 8th in the league right now based on SRS, not that a lot of voters are going to consider it but I think they can kick on from the all star break and climb the ladder.

[Screwston]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

Maybe if it wasn't for Harden n WB.

Looks like the Rockets will end up 3rd(maybe even 2nd) and are on the pace to win close to 60 games, so more than likely Harden will get it

[Ballerhogger]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

If he can get to 4th seed quickly and hold it then we talk about it ...Their record is so far from CLE right now.

They are 8th in the league right now based on SRS, not that a lot of voters are going to consider it but I think they can kick on from the all star break and climb the ladder.

I dont think he's gets on ballot if the team doesn't finish just right behind the raptors. That means hes going have to get them passed Boston. Plus you have everyone out west Kd,Westbrook,Harden+Lebron out east . The east is still very much in shambles and were not even at ASB yet. The hawks are in 5th place.. The hawks.. Posting -1.6 diff. The standings are going to be up and down all year unless the bucks make a significant improvement.

[red96]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

All of that is fine and all, but dude is on 13th best team in the league and the Buck are at .515% wins If he has a shot, than why not guys on 30 win teams? 20 win teams even. An MVP player is only good enough to get his team to .500? No freaking way.

[HurricaneKid]

Harden with another tripple double. 3rd game in a row.

I've been going after RWB for his absurd triple doubles so I'm going to stay intellectually honest here. This one was Ricky Davis-like.

Hou was up 8 with the ball and he got an assist with 10 seconds left. After the opposition stopped trying.

This BS needs to stop.

Even if he didn't get it 20-something 9 and 10 is pretty damn good lol who cares that he wanted a triple double

They also had to get a shot off as the shot clock was at 2 and the wizards completely left Harrell all alone near the basket, wasn't really forced

He was brutal. 6/24 from the field, 6 TOs.

Getting a statistical landmark after the opposing team has ceded victory is shameful. Not quite shooting at your own basket, but in that general vicinity. When he thinks he needs to do that to compete with a guy averaging a triple double based on that team's "strategy" of getting him at least 2-4 uncontested rebounds a game, we have all lost.

[red96]

Harden should be the clear MVP. They're stats a nearly identical, Russell with 2 more ppg, but Harden is way more efficient, has more win shares, best game in modern history, ect. The Rockets are 5.5 ahead of the Thunder and only 1 and 3.5 games behind the Spurs and Warriors while being banged up. Who called that? The eye test even shows Harden does more to make his team better. The Thunder are where everyone expected them to be, while the Rockets are 5-7 seeds higher than they were projected. In my eye's Harden has a steady lead over Westbrook and he's pulling away more and more every game.

[K_chile22]

I've been going after RWB for his absurd triple doubles so I'm going to stay intellectually honest here. This one was Ricky Davis-like.

Hou was up 8 with the ball and he got an assist with 10 seconds left. After the opposition stopped trying.

This BS needs to stop.

Even if he didn't get it 20-something 9 and 10 is pretty damn good lol who cares that he wanted a triple double

They also had to get a shot off as the shot clock was at 2 and the wizards completely left Harrell all alone near the basket, wasn't really forced

He was brutal. 6/24 from the field, 6 TOs.

Getting a statistical landmark after the opposing team has ceded victory is shameful. Not quite shooting at your own basket, but in that general vicinity. When he thinks he needs to do that to compete with a guy averaging a triple double based on that team's "strategy" of getting him at least 2-4 uncontested rebounds a game, we have all lost.

He had a bad game and triple doubles are vastly overrated, yes. But shaming him for getting a triple double is one of the weirder things I've seen. What should he have done at that last second then? Shoot over 3 guys and make his % even worse? Take a shot clock violation? Or pass to the guy all by himself at the rim. Cmon dude, you're acting like the shot clock was off and they didn't need to shoot it lol

[red96]

I've been going after RWB for his absurd triple doubles so I'm going to stay intellectually honest here. This one was Ricky Davis-like.

Hou was up 8 with the ball and he got an assist with 10 seconds left. After the opposition stopped trying.

This BS needs to stop.

Even if he didn't get it 20-something 9 and 10 is pretty damn good lol who cares that he wanted a triple double

They also had to get a shot off as the shot clock was at 2 and the wizards completely left Harrell all alone near the basket, wasn't really forced

He was brutal. 6/24 from the field, 6 TOs.

Getting a statistical landmark after the opposing team has ceded victory is shameful. Not quite shooting at your own basket, but in that general vicinity. When he thinks he needs to do that to compete with a guy averaging a triple double based on that team's "strategy" of getting him at least 2-4 uncontested rebounds a game, we have all lost.

Westbrook has had a ton of TD's like that,but thats why everyone goes crazy for Westbrook. All his TRIPPLE DOUBLES. Thats the-be-all-end-all for a lot of the talking heads on ESPN. Even though Harden is beating Westbrook in almost every statistical category, and leading his team to more victories, is all about the TRIPPLE DOUBLES. So now Harden has no choice to fish for a few more if he wants to win what should clearly be his to begin with, but this wasn't an example. Harden simple made the smart basketball play. Should he have jacked it up instead?

[Hero]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

In the conversation sure. As in consideration for a top 5 finish.

[Gibson22]

Harden should be the clear MVP. They're stats a nearly identical, Russell with 2 more ppg, but Harden is way more efficient, has more win shares, best game in modern history, ect. The Rockets are 5.5 ahead of the Thunder and only 1 and 3.5 games behind the Spurs and Warriors while being banged up. Who called that? The eye test even shows Harden does more to make his team better. The Thunder are where everyone expected them to be, while the Rockets are 5-7 seeds higher than they were projected. In my eye's Harden has a steady lead over Westbrook and he's pulling away more and more every game.

Best game in modern history
What

[Gibson22]

1. Russ
2. Harden
3. CP3
4. Kawhi
5. LBJ
6. KD

extra points for being on a team with no superstars for me

There's no for me. this is mvp discussion.

[Slava]

Too early for Giannis to be in the MVP conversation? 2nd in the league in both PER and RPM right now.

All of that is fine and all, but dude is on 13th best team in the league and the Buck are at .515% wins If he has a shot, than why not guys on 30 win teams? 20 win teams even. An MVP player is only good enough to get his team to .500? No freaking way.

Are you trying to be in contention for the biggest homer on RealGM? I'm not saying he is the MVP, I'm saying he should be getting in the conversation and a few votes.

[Slava]

If he can get to 4th seed quickly and hold it then we talk about it ...Their record is so far from CLE right now.

They are 8th in the league right now based on SRS, not that a lot of voters are going to consider it but I think they can kick on from the all star break and climb the ladder.

I dont think he's gets on ballot if the team doesn't finish just right behind the raptors. That means hes going have to get them passed Boston. Plus you have everyone out west Kd,Westbrook,Harden+Lebron out east . The east is still very much in shambles and were not even at ASB yet. The hawks are in 5th place.. The hawks.. Posting -1.6 diff. The standings are going to be up and down all year unless the bucks make a significant improvement.

There's no ballot as far as I'm aware.