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cool007 wrote:I really hope Bulls go all in to trade for Vuc and worst case go after Myles Turner.
I really want us to trade for 1 of those 2. That would be huge for Bulls success this year and beyond.
Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Felicio and Hutchinson for Myeres Leonard from Illinois. Okc dont coubt for Myers and he is 10 mil expiring deal. But Reinsdorfs are Jews so maybe they dont want him, but he would be upgrade over WCJ.
DroseReturnChi wrote:Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Felicio and Hutchinson for Myeres Leonard from Illinois. Okc dont coubt for Myers and he is 10 mil expiring deal. But Reinsdorfs are Jews so maybe they dont want him, but he would be upgrade over WCJ.
this. illinois connection is always good and want to get out of that bum hutch deal.
WindyCityBorn wrote:d boy gentleman wrote:Dominater wrote:What about offering our 1st for John Collins? And before you guys start flaming me, consider that the last 3 years, we have tanked and masturbated over draft picks. The payoff? WCJ, Coby and Patrick. Total wasted years. Much rather start doing what the smart teams do, trade picks for actual players.
You make that kind of trade with the expectation that you're signing him in the offseason. Yes, he's restricted but there would have to be commitment from the team that he's a smart of the future.
It would also mean that Lauri would be on his way out.
I would not trade anything for Collins. What if you give up that pick and it becomes top 3 pick or he gets hurting or some other issue and you don’t want to resign him? Either get him in RFA or not at all. Also he wants a max and isn’t a max talent. I’d rather keep Lauri.
WindyCityBorn wrote:cool007 wrote:I really hope Bulls go all in to trade for Vuc and worst case go after Myles Turner.
I really want us to trade for 1 of those 2. That would be huge for Bulls success this year and beyond.
Pacers are not giving us Turner for anything we realistically would offer. He is available as much as Zach is meaning he really isn’t.
sco wrote:DroseReturnChi wrote:Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Felicio and Hutchinson for Myeres Leonard from Illinois. Okc dont coubt for Myers and he is 10 mil expiring deal. But Reinsdorfs are Jews so maybe they dont want him, but he would be upgrade over WCJ.
this. illinois connection is always good and want to get out of that bum hutch deal.
He's heading to OKC for Ariza.
coldfish wrote:Zach should file a complaint. Some of those non calls were battery complaints.
Stratmaster wrote:Will Perdue says asinine things, and his pants are way too short.
sco wrote: New Orleans has to be one of the, if not THE hardest city to eat healthy. I think they fry the water.
Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Trade 1.Thad Young and Satoransky for Beverly and Zubac.
Trade 2. W.Carter, Valentine and Hutchinson for Mason Plumlee and Doumboya.
Beverly Zach PWill Lauri Zubac.
Coby White Temple Porter Seyku Plumlee.
coldfish wrote:Zach should file a complaint. Some of those non calls were battery complaints.
Stratmaster wrote:Will Perdue says asinine things, and his pants are way too short.
sco wrote: New Orleans has to be one of the, if not THE hardest city to eat healthy. I think they fry the water.
Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Trade 1.Thad Young and Satoransky for Beverly and Zubac.
Trade 2. W.Carter, Valentine and Hutchinson for Mason Plumlee and Doumboya.
Beverly Zach PWill Lauri Zubac.
Coby White Temple Porter Seyku Plumlee.
FriedRise wrote:
CaPiTanAK wrote:FriedRise wrote:
Satos is a very good role player at a great contract. I would cash in if there is a first rounder being offered. Same thing for Thad. I would also try to package either Coby or WCJ to these deals in order to salvage value. The only reason for me to trade them would be to have enough cap space to add 1-2 really good players to this team over the summer. At the same time, it’s also adding in three young prospects in the vision of AK.
It’s very obvious that WCJ and Coby are not long term pieces on this team.
Nuggets had drafted Murray with 7 pick year prior and Harris had career season before that and signed new deal. Same as Nurkic Plumlee deal, or Beasley to Minny for frp. Positional fits and contracts played a part in that trade. Guy in last 5 years drafted Jokic,Murray,Porter,Harris,Morris basically their whole core and they went in wcf. I would say draft is his strenght. Nobody had 100%Dominater wrote:WindyCityBorn wrote:d boy gentleman wrote:
You make that kind of trade with the expectation that you're signing him in the offseason. Yes, he's restricted but there would have to be commitment from the team that he's a smart of the future.
It would also mean that Lauri would be on his way out.
I would not trade anything for Collins. What if you give up that pick and it becomes top 3 pick or he gets hurting or some other issue and you don’t want to resign him? Either get him in RFA or not at all. Also he wants a max and isn’t a max talent. I’d rather keep Lauri.
Even if not Collins , I'm just done with praying for picks to save us. We just wasted 3 years of watching horrible basketball and wasting Zach's prime for picks that are all meh at best. I think 1st round picks have become incredibly overrated over the years. Everybody got a hard on for them after the "OKC model". They lucked into the Durant pick, then tanked for the Westbrook pick, and still tanked again for the Harden pick. That was awesome. But will probably never be repeated again. Even in the case of high #1 picks, your more likely to get a core of Wiggins and KAT. And in our case, we built that strong core of WCJ/Coby/Patrick.
I would be more in favor of picks if we had good drafters. We don't. AK is overrated as a drafter. He traded down from Donovan Mitchell for Trey Lyles. That's worse than any trade Gar/Pax ever made. Closest is Aldridge for Tyrus, but even in that case Tyrus was atleast useful for a couple years and fetched us a future 1st. Can't say the same for Lyles. Patrick over Haliburton is looking like a disaster in the making. I'll give AK a little credit on MPJ, but come on. MPJ should have been a top 5 pick and had no business being in the board at #14.
Our drafting sucks. Period. Has for a long time. And lots of times all you get is mediocre or bad cores out of it. The Lakers tried doing the whole organic rebuild thing. Got a decent core of Randle, Clarkson, Ingrim, Ball. Solid, but nothing special. They've gone back to their roots of not wasting their time trying to develop young stupid players. Trade picks for the real deal.