2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[falcolombardi]

a bit off topic but is there a way to fact check this?

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sounds absolutely made up lol

I don't know why you'd bother, he shot 43% from the field. What the **** were his other shots?

mostly to have evidence to point at when people say outlandish stuff like this

[LukaTheGOAT]

Some of these SRS numbers are crazy. I did not realize how shuffled this season is, mainly in the east.

The SRS rank for every east team, ordered by team seeding:

1. Bulls: 14th
2. Heat: 7th
3. Sixers: 12th
4. Bucks: 8th
5. Cavs: 4th
6. Nets: 15th
7. Hornets: 18th
8. Raptors: 13th
9. Celtics: 6th
10. Hawks: 16th


If this held this might be the biggest SRS/seeding gap in history.

[Doctor MJ]

Some of these SRS numbers are crazy. I did not realize how shuffled this season is, mainly in the east.

The SRS rank for every east team, ordered by team seeding:

1. Bulls: 14th
2. Heat: 7th
3. Sixers: 12th
4. Bucks: 8th
5. Cavs: 4th
6. Nets: 15th
7. Hornets: 18th
8. Raptors: 13th
9. Celtics: 6th
10. Hawks: 16th


If this held this might be the biggest SRS/seeding gap in history.

With the Bulls in particular to me this is a red flag. Well and good to praise DeRozan for his buzzer beaters, but they might be the weakest "#1 seed at the all-star break" we've ever seen. There's a very good chance that they end up getting "upset" in the playoffs in an early round.

[falcolombardi]

Some of these SRS numbers are crazy. I did not realize how shuffled this season is, mainly in the east.

The SRS rank for every east team, ordered by team seeding:

1. Bulls: 14th
2. Heat: 7th
3. Sixers: 12th
4. Bucks: 8th
5. Cavs: 4th
6. Nets: 15th
7. Hornets: 18th
8. Raptors: 13th
9. Celtics: 6th
10. Hawks: 16th


If this held this might be the biggest SRS/seeding gap in history.

covid ball is wild

[yoyoboy]

In 44 games with Garland, the Cavs are operating at roughly a +6.14 SRS this season. In 8 games without Darius Garland, the Cavs are operating at around a -6.29 SRS.

This team is so dependent on him. Even defensively, it's like they lack discipline when he's not out there and don't have the same energy. 3 of the 8 games even included Rubio while 2 included Sexton.

[LukaTheGOAT]

I believe only 3 undrafted players had made the all star game (post merger) up until this point

Ben Wallace, Brad Miller and John Starks

He's by far the smallest of them too. Congrats to Fred Vanvleet. Pretty dang inspiring.

[Clyde Frazier]

a bit off topic but is there a way to fact check this?

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sounds absolutely made up lol

It only comes out to 1.23 attempts per game so it's possible but of course they don't give a source. Someone would've had to track it manually.

[MartinToVaught]

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So, assuming Harden does get traded (and it really looks like he will), is it safe to say that the Nets put together the biggest failure of a "superteam" ever?

That Sixers team will be hard to watch, too. Doc, Embiid and Harden will set the Guinness World Record for the loudest synchronized whining in history.

[Doctor MJ]

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So, assuming Harden does get traded (and it really looks like he will), is it safe to say that the Nets put together the biggest failure of a "superteam" ever?

That Sixers team will be hard to watch, too. Doc, Embiid and Harden will set the Guinness World Record for the loudest synchronized whining in history.

I can't help but think of the Kobe-Howard superteam, to me that gave us an example where the core didn't just fail to win a title, they failed to win a playoff game.

But what I will say is that the Net superteam experience might really linger as a sour taste for the legacies of KD/Kyrie/Beard in an exceptionally powerful way. Obviously, if Harden leaves and then the Nets win the title, it's likely only on Harden that has a chance to fester. Similarly if Harden goes to Philly and wins a title, it risks being hung on Durant & Irving. But there may be unique power affecting all 3 if none of them ever win a championship from this point onward.

[MartinToVaught]

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So, assuming Harden does get traded (and it really looks like he will), is it safe to say that the Nets put together the biggest failure of a "superteam" ever?

That Sixers team will be hard to watch, too. Doc, Embiid and Harden will set the Guinness World Record for the loudest synchronized whining in history.

I can't help but think of the Kobe-Howard superteam, to me that gave us an example where the core didn't just fail to win a title, they failed to win a playoff game.

But what I will say is that the Net superteam experience might really linger as a sour taste for the legacies of KD/Kyrie/Beard in an exceptionally powerful way. Obviously, if Harden leaves and then the Nets win the title, it's likely only on Harden that has a chance to fester. Similarly if Harden goes to Philly and wins a title, it risks being hung on Durant & Irving. But there may be unique power affecting all 3 if none of them ever win a championship from this point onward.

That Kobe-Dwight team was embarrassing, but they at least had some excuses - Nash was totally washed, Kobe tore his Achilles right before the playoffs. This Nets team is more like the 2004 Lakers, except their collective egos imploded before they could ever get to the Finals (or even get past the second round).

Speaking of legacies, I'm loving the fact that Durant's rotisserie-league superteam crap is finally coming back to bite him in the ass. People have started glossing over KD in recent years because of Kyrie and Harden's constant drama, but I don't feel bad for him at all. He thought he could replace Curry and Klay with one of the biggest locker-room headaches ever (Kyrie) and a known choker/quitter (Harden) and break the league all over again, but with him getting most of the credit this time. Thank God it hasn't turned out like he thought it would so far.

[GSP]

I'm in absolute DISBELIEF at this Blazers and Clips trade. One of the worst trades I've ever seen specially one that doesn't include a star. I mean WTFFFF this trade would get vetoed in fantasy leagues and looked at

[Fadeaway_J]

I'm in absolute DISBELIEF at this Blazers and Clips trade. One of the worst trades I've ever seen specially one that doesn't include a star. I mean WTFFFF this trade would get vetoed in fantasy leagues and looked at

Well yeah, fantasy leagues don't have a luxury tax.

[mikejames23]

I don't know if the Nets team was disappointing in terms of actual results. They've looked like the top team in the RS whenever they played together. I think last yr. in the playoffs many had the Nets winning the series if the Big 3 was healthy vs Bucks. This was actually a team with some potential, but it looks like things might be over now (unless Nash has a brilliant turnaround in his head).

[falcolombardi]

i almost feel bad for the nets

this could be the second time in less thsn a decade that a superteam experiment fails and they lose all their picks

[MartinToVaught]

The only Nets I feel bad for are Blake, Aldridge (who literally risked his heart to come back and play for this mess), and the fans. The front office chose to gamble everything on three of the most toxic egos in the league, despite the obvious chance of failure and their previous experience with the Billy King fiasco, and the stars made their bed.

[falcolombardi]

assuming that the trade happens and simmons actually decides to play

how do the nets work out with sinmons?

[eminence]

Yeah, it's mostly been a failure of availability for the Nets, think they've played about 350 minutes together with the big 3 over the last two seasons. Doing great in that time at around +15, but just not enough of that time.

[Texas Chuck]

so Luka is rounding nicely into form. It's funny how a couple months where he's still obviously a very good player, but looking mortal can make one forget just how ridiculously good he is.

And if he's really going to compete like this defensively it changes a lot of things.

[falcolombardi]

harden potentially going to sixers with a season of delay makes me wish he would have just been traded to sixers from the start and everyone would have been better off

21/22 sixers with harden+ embiid and nets with their depth and jarret allen around durant and (sometimes) irving

everybody wins (except bucks)

[Fadeaway_J]

harden potentially going to sixers with a season of delay makes me wish he would have just been traded to sixers from the start and everyone would have been better off

21/22 sixers with harden+ embiid and nets with their depth and jarret allen around durant and (sometimes) irving

everybody wins (except bucks)

I don't think there's anything stopping the Bucks from beating either of those hypothetical teams.