Political Roundtable Part XXXIV

[Zonkerbl]

test. Probably have to be logged in to bloosky to see it

I was going to ask Daone how it feels to be the Trump supporter in this thread most likely to be deported to ECOT and how he'd be like "I'm a U.S. citizen who speaks fluent English, quit fearmongering" and then this coincidentally showed up in my feed

ICE has a quota they can't possibly meet just by deporting recent immigrants. Pretty soon they will be deporting anyone with brown skin.

[dobrojim]

Parents that can't afford healthcare for their
babies should be deported along with their free
loading babies to cecot. Or at least that is the
logical extension of certain lines of thought
expressed by some here. Or maybe they just
would suggest letting rich people who can afford
them become their parents. Poor people are free
loaders.

[Zonkerbl]

you can't logically be for protecting all the precious imaginary babies and also be against universal health care

[dobrojim]

https://contrarian.substack.com/p/the-most-communist-president-ever?r=1lnu2l&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=audio-player

[TGW]

Great for Deni, but Israel can eat a fat one.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Great for Deni, but Israel can eat a fat one.

End the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.

Netanyahu is a modern-day Hitler.

[AFM]

I agree. The fact that Israel is a disgusting country full of terrible people should go in the other thread.

[dobrojim]

https://www.nber.org/papers/w34170

Paper comparing taxes paid by various cohorts
or wealth brackets.

[queridiculo]

you can't logically be for protecting all the precious imaginary babies and also be against universal health care

If you read the unflushable ones greatest hits it's full of contradictions.

Son of immigrants, hates immigrants and supports policies that deny the same opportunities to other people looking to improve their families outlook.

Suffers from chronic health condition and is a beneficiary of socialized health care costs, yet supports policies that denies the same for other people.

Complains about crime, and uses racist tropes to blame brown people, while supporting policies that promote socioeconomic immobility.

Believes his moronic and dogmatic views are being suppressed by fact and science based policies, but is perfectly fine with curtailing other peoples rights in support of his own delusions.

You cannot argue with dumb people is basically what it comes down to, full stop.

[Zonkerbl]

Trump just committed mass murder:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-military-strikes-alleged-drug-boat-trump/story?id=125197572

Now, this absolutely sucks and he should not have done it. But I will remind you that Obama pretty much did the same thing all the time. The difference being Obama probably had some good intel that the crowd of innocents he was murdering contained a person known to carry out orders for Al-Qaeda, and Trump is just straight up murdering people because he can. Honestly, to me there is not much difference.

At any rate, drug smuggling is not a capital crime, and the Coast Guard can and has disabled boats without murdering anyone. This is bloodthirsty, performative evil. Congrats to everyone who voted for this horrific monster to protect their imaginary babies.

[Zonkerbl]

I agree. The fact that Israel is a disgusting country full of terrible people should go in the other thread.

well, if that's true the same is true of the United States.

I think Netanyahu and his government are criminals that should be put on trial and, if convicted, hanged by the neck until dead. I think it is a monstrous stain on the state of Israel, that reflects poorly on Jews around the world, that he has been elected more than once. And I think we should all seriously reconsider whether the state of Israel truly has a right to exist. The way Israel was formed in 1948, by basically handing land the UK did not technically own over to Jewish refugees, with no plan for providing reparations for the people living there, was on its face illegal and illegitimate. Maybe it's time for a do-over, and Jews who want to live there have to legally purchase the land there from citizens of a fully fledged Palestinian state first.

I don't think that means Israel is 100% full of evil monsters. Enough evil monsters to elect Netanyahu, maybe. Just like the United States is not 100% evil monsters, just the evil monsters who voted for Trump. And the evil monsters in the Democrat party who unconditionally support Netanyahu's genocide.

[Wizardspride]

Lol

https://www.psypost.org/trump-supporters-report-higher-levels-of-psychopathy-manipulativeness-callousness-and-narcissism/

Shocking....

[dobrojim]

Because stable genius

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-map-geography-george-conway-video-mistakes-ukraine-a9306811.html

[Wizardspride]

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[Zonkerbl]

this is going great

[AFM]

Massie is the only dude with any balls

[payitforward]

Oh god I hope this brings him down....

[daoneandonly]

you can't logically be for protecting all the precious imaginary babies and also be against universal health care

If you read the unflushable ones greatest hits it's full of contradictions.

Son of immigrants, hates immigrants and supports policies that deny the same opportunities to other people looking to improve their families outlook.

Suffers from chronic health condition and is a beneficiary of socialized health care costs, yet supports policies that denies the same for other people.

Complains about crime, and uses racist tropes to blame brown people, while supporting policies that promote socioeconomic immobility.

Believes his moronic and dogmatic views are being suppressed by fact and science based policies, but is perfectly fine with curtailing other peoples rights in support of his own delusions.

You cannot argue with dumb people is basically what it comes down to, full stop.

If you are going to lie, at least do it with a hint of intellect and even truth.

My health issue was the result of an incompetent surgeon who I later found out described himself as a bleeding liberal; if only I had known this beforehand. There is an obvious difference when it comes to most employer-funded plans, and tax dollars going to healthcare or the absurd universal healthcare push. Our company has three different vendor options when it comes to medical insurance. I'm in one, with zero impact on those on the other two plans, which is the majority of staff, mind you. We all pay the same in premiums and copays, regardless of age and salary, as it should be. Sure, some young and super healthy people may not be getting their share since we have a high percentage of folks in their 60s and 70s working here. But if they work here until retirement age, it all evens out for them, full circle. Not like tax dollars funding medical programs when it's being blatantly abused by folks who shouldn't even qualify for it, not to mention the ones reaping said benefits don't really pay anything for the pleasure. If we had a more flattened tax system where people paid roughly the same percentage of their salary in taxes, then okay, but that's not the case at all. Universal healthcare, yeah, so people who pay a ridiculous amount in taxes each pay period and then come April get the same level of health care service as those who pay close to nothing yet get tax refunds. That's so incredibly fair. We have a good chunk of people who get all the benefits of programs and services via tax dollars, yet burden others with paying for them. One of the reasons Wes Moore has sunk MD into debt, yet no one here wants to talk about it: https://www.mdpolicy.org/research/detail/how-maryland-found-its-way-to-a-3-billion-budget-crisis

"Rising costs for state-backed entitlement programs like Medicaid, health care for people in prisons, subsidized child care, and developmental disabilities have also repeatedly forced lawmakers to find more money."

And there it is, the only bullet in the liberal arsenal; if someone does not tow the line, they are racist and hate immigrants. Don't even need to defend myself here because you have zero substance in your argument. Never blamed anyone of color for the crime rate. I said DC is a crime-infested city, which it is. The stats show it, watching the news shows it, and listening to the experiences of friends and family proves it. And all of those friends and family are brown/black, mind you, since the overwhelming majority of my inner circle are one or the other. The boots on the ground have improved DC, made it safer, and the same should be done for the other cities with astronomically high crime rates. There's no logical argument against measures that combat and deter crime. But I'm sure here comes some response with the word "racist"

Immigrants who did it right, who you seem to think I hate, have proven time after time that this socioeconomic immobility is a farce. Generally, if you put in the work, you'll reap the rewards eventually. But that requires work, which is one of the four-letter words the left hates. Accountability is the word they hate most, as proven by their views on abortions, soft on crime, and handouts.

Again, the convenience of using "science" when it only benefits your arguments. But the obvious, clear-cut science of XX and XY has no bearing on anything, somehow. That's a choice and fluid, not a scientific fact.

But there's no middle ground or even respectful discussions here, so there's no point in trying to do so. The constant name calling just because people view things differently than you, feels like going back to high school, and I for one was glad to be out. I seriously doubt all those here have these altruisticc hearts, and that's why they believe in all these government-funded feebies, you do so because it either benefits you or people in your life. I'm not going to keep taking the bait and disrespecting God's call to be gentle and live in peace, so I'm out.

[AFM]

LOL

[edited to be nicer]

Hey da1, I'm gonna give you some unsolicited advice you probably won't read. After all, they say advice is easy to give, but hard to take.

I used to have a bad drinking problem. I'll be 2 years sober soon. One of the (many) things you learn, if you are capable of introspection, is this: if one person says you've had too much to drink, it may not be true. In fact, they might be the drunk one. But when everyone says you've had too much, you've had too much. Even if you swear "I'm totally fine, bro!". Anyway, everyone here seems to think you're racist and a bad person with a twisted moral compass. I'll let you figure out the rest.

[dobrojim]

Even shorter shorter version of ^

When everybody says you're wrong, it's time for some
serious introspection.

Now, in the ongoing effort to distract the huge
number of people appalled by his Epstein policy,
such as upgrading Maxwell's accommodations,
he's directing mass murder in coastal Venezuela.
What a tough guy!